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Posted: 10 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv



Radhika I was angry and sad with Jallu yday... He stil believes her as frn... Wen wil he open his eyes and see ruk ?? Wil ruk intentions of MUZ be out or not?? I can't see Jallu helplessness n numb infront of ruk... Did u see ruk dialgues yday?? She shud ask herself same ques bcz she snatched child from jo and she was talking abt cheen liya yday... Wat kind of bond she developed?? Nothing... Even zeenat feeds kid not her... She has kept hussain for four days and she said she wil die without hussain... I hope she really dies by committing suicide aftr hussain death... I'm not even predicting as I'm getting bad thights abt track these days... I'm not able to see jo pain and want to see happier akdha moments...rukayya is not human... She is alien from sme other planet..


Hi Bhavana, nice writeup😊 .

Jalal is dejected and feels let down by Rukaiyya . He is disgusted by her behavior , but his grief is too intense and is preventing him from expressing anger . Nothing is more important than Jodha's wellbeing for Jalal. Yesterday it was amply clear that Rukaiyya has lost her 'bachpan ka dost' due to her self centered behavior .
The Creatives are unnecessarily dragging the Rukaiyya track . Believe me , when the time comes , Jalal WILL stand up for Jodha and his babies . He will not let her down . Their unconditional love , undestroyable bond and understanding forms the crux of the story .


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Posted: 10 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0


Neetz,

My son is 7 and in 2nd class. He's finally gone to school today. LOL Chitti should be fine, though I don't know what it means. In Telugu, chitti means small. 😛

I agree that the pain of loss never disappears completely. But it can be buried in the deep recesses of our mind from where it can't hurt us. True, the scars remain - but whether we consider them ugly memories of how we lost someone or beautiful reminders of those people who had made our life richer, if only temporarily, is in our hands.

I lost my brother when I was very young. I have lost my parents. But their loss is not something I ever feel pained by. I always remember them with love and am grateful they were a part of my life and made me what I am today. And I make sure my son feels connected with them.

Some people are also able to convert such pain into positive, affirmatory action whereby they reach out and help others who have undergone similar experiences. Even if most of us cannot do this, we can alter our perceptions about how we regard the loss and trust that whatever God did was for the best, at least for those people he took away, if not for us who are left behind.


We are in for a series of episodes that will be emotionally draining but also raise deep questions about family relations and how personal insecurities affect the dynamics of a family and its ability to remain united in sorrow and joy. 😊

Don't worry about being regular here. Just join in when you can. Would love to hear your take on these episodes. 😊

Hey Chitti,
Chitti is another word for Mausi in tamil I think. I love it..Tongue
Got your pm. Thanks
I agree with everything that you've mentioned here. So true. I have gone through all of this too on a personal level so I understand what you're trying to say. I can't add anything here coz you've said it all.
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Coming to yesterday's epi
Loved your posts and Abhay's too. Abhay you're right in saying that Ruk never evolved. She had the chance to but she chose not to take it. She was so high on her audha-obsession by then that nothing else mattered to her. Not even Jalal, her bachpan ka dost. This shone in almost every track.
Even during the divorce case, though her breakdown touched me(maybe coz the dialogues were so apt) but then also it was all about her audha that she'll end up losing if the divorce took place. Whereas Jalal was pained by the mere thought of having to divorce her. She didn't give any importance to the love and care her family showered on her.
The episode was again very beautiful. Subtle in all its emotions. Jodha's venting out her frustration on her Kanha was justified i think for we do tend to question our God when we see that we are being dealt in an unjustified manner. The way then she ran to Hussein on hearing him cry, consoled him,fed him and then put him to sleep not ready to let go was painful to watch for it brought fore the fact that she had turned hollow from inside after having lost Hassan. Being with Hussein made her wholesome again for some time atleast before Ruk so insensitively snatched him from her. The expression on her face was so bleak and lifeless then as if she had lost her child all over again. She had given birth to 2 beautiful sons but was now bereft of both. Ruk was so mean. Jodha had given her child to Ruk,given her a reason to live. Shouldn't Ruk do the same for some time atleast? She should have tried to understand Jodha's pain at this time and given Hussein to Jodha herself. but who are we fooling here?
I loved Jalal-HB scene. It was a welcome change to see the mother-son bond in this time of grief. I had mentioned in my last post that Jalal needed to let go of his pent-up sadness soon and i liked it when his mother came to him and asked him to pull the lid from his emotions and let go of his grief. She asked him to relieve his heart from the burden of apin in his mother's arms.Very beautiful. He needed to stay strong for his wife and couldn't see her in pain. It really touched me when he said he was the Shehenshah Jalal-ud-din Mohommad who used to write his destiny with his mighty shamsheer but couldn't do so this time around. When it came to saving the life of his son he was as helpless as any other man on earth. All the power that he had was of no use.He was helpless infront of God.
You're right in saying that Ruk had already decided to refuse giving Hussein if the situation arose. That's why when Jalal came and asked for Hussein she refused him point blank. Though i didn't like to see him begging for 'his own baby' but that didn't make him look small either. It just showed how much he loved his Jodha. He was ready to put aside his self-respect, his position as an emperor, his word and everything else to beg Ruk for the child so he could give some peace to Jodha even if it was for some time. Wanted to give her a reason to live. But that woman refused. For a moment I did feel that she really loved the baby and couldn't bear to away from him. but we love to hate her. She has made a mockery of a beautiful relation like friendship i feel.
Another scene i loved was the sindoor scene. He said it didn't matter if she wore any jewellery but she had to wear the sindoor for him and went on to fill her mang. It brought home the fact that she had to live for him like he was living for her taking into account that he said he can't get through his day without looking at her once. the eye lock that followed spoke volumes. Very poignant indeed.
Loved how he was supporting her when he broke the sad news to the new arrivals giving her the strength as she faced the reality again.
I am quite intrigued by the arrival of Raja Bharmal and Dadisa. Let's see what role they have to play in this track. Though I would like to mention I didn't like the way this happened. How come they both came to Jodha's room directly unaware of what had happened? Granted they came without informing but once they had reached I am sure word must have been sent to HB and Maan Singh atleast so how come nobody came to greet them and told them the truth. This could have avoided them getting to know about Hassan's demise infront of the already shattered parents. How come they made their way straight to the harem?😕
Here my heart also goes out to baby Hussein who has been reduced to a mere parcel in the game of pass the parcel. He is gonna follow his brother very soon and look at what's happening. Pathetic. This isn't how babies are treated. This baby sharing thing is anyways very disgusting.
Precap- no comments. Ruk is disgusting. She will be in our faces all the time now.Get ready to be tortured by her big time.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek





Radhika,

Nice Post..I agree with you...And trying to elaborate your points... :))

I am using some contents of an Old Post of mine today, here, i think 99% members must not have read this one..

So, you didn't completely brush me aside after all! 😛 You did think about it. Thanks! Lovely post and seemed familiar to me, if not to 99% members. 😊 I looked back and found the original post on this page (pls don't mind ;p):


Those who visit this link, pls see this too: 😊


Lets try to see the Change in Ruqayya Begum, and analyze how she will do in future. I view her in two phases - Pre JJ marriage and Post JJ marriage. She DID NOT change overnight but took some time. I would attribute these changes in her NOT ONLY due to the "INSECURITY", BUT ALSO due to the reason that she Ceased to "EvOLvE". If Beagle was instrumental in leading to the Darwinism, then here Ruqayya's inability to tackle the "evolution" in Jalal OR to Evolve herself, is the mirror view of why she is - what she is at present, i mean 'insecure.?. or unassertive.?.'.!!.

I am understanding this post better now than I did then. 😊

I feel Ruq ceased to evolve the day she felt complete monopoly over the harem, which was her entire world. She did not feel the need to evolve further after becoming the BEK and Hindustan ki Malika, by default, as she was the first and chief queen. As Jalal was growing and evolving mentally, intellectually, and emotionally, she chose not to evolve with him because she had no need then to "increase her value" personally or in Jalal's eyes.

Jalal is what Ayushi calls a lifelong learner and he was evolving even before he met Jodha. It was a result of his growth as a person that he subconsciously felt the need for a friend, a wife, a companion who could be his equal in every respect. It must have been obvious to him even then that the "stagnant" Ruq would not be able to meet his needs in the long run. Hence the quest for that enigmatic woman who would be able to not only satisfy his needs but challenge him to grow further led him to Amer and the rest is history.

Coming back to Ruqaiyya, is she insecure and unassertive? I never thought of her in these terms before. She is secure in her position as the BEK. But beyond that position or in the absence of that position, she is like a fish out of water. She can only see herself as an entitled woman, a queen. Not just any entitled woman but one who has the highest possible title among all her peers. This gives her confidence, massages her ego that she is superior to everyone else, including the emperor. It gives her a "high". Why does she need this "high"? Because within her heart, she doesn't know her own worth and feels empty, hollow, without any identity of her own. Only a person who is not content with what she is already will look for artificial "highs" and inculcate some "addictions" (and I don't mean the hukkah here). Her addiction is to power / auda.

She has never tried to discover her true self, who she is. She can only see herself in terms of her relation with Jalal. If Jalal is the emperor, she is the queen. If Jalal is a man, she is his best friend. If Jalal is not there in her life, what is she? Nothing, in her mind. If Jalal is not the king, what is she? Nothing, in her mind. Which explains her restlessness when Jalal was about to divorce her, when Jalal moved away to Jodha, when Jalal wanted to make Jodha the BEK, when Jodha was to become the MUZ.

When you talk of assertiveness, it reminded me of what I learned years back about the difference between assertiveness and aggressiveness. Ruq is aggressive and we have seen instances of this behavior with people she considers "weaker". Much like a school bully, she seems to enjoy wielding power over weaker or less assertive opponents through a brute display of aggression rather than any assertion of herself. Jodha, by contrast, is usually quiet and willing to play along. But when pushed to a corner, she knows how to assert herself without any need for an aggressive display of her "official position or authority".

She is at times uncertain and lacks confidence in discovering and feeling her own value(.?.!.?.!.), and one or more of her capabilities, lacks trust in herself and NOW even in Jalal .!!. Because , since starting ALL she cared was her BEK Auhda, the power, and Jalal ALWAYS assured her that her Auhda would remain INTACT...In her 10 years of marriage, didn't she understand the meaning of THE WORD of Jalal.?. Her insecurity is nothing BUT a difference in her level of awareness, regarding Jalal.(though she says she understands HIM, and she is his Bachpan ki Dost.!!.)

Elaborating on "The Word" of Jalal. As with everything else, Ruq understands everything in the "official context" only. Which explains why she cornered Jalal in the DEK with regard to his "zubaan", as she felt that the zubaan was important for the emperor and his prestige only, not to Jalal on a personal level. Which also explains why she made him sign the farman, to make sure that Jalal, the "father/husband", did not win over Jalal, the emperor.

The irony is that in spite of taking so many precautions, her worst nightmare came true. Jalal, the husband won over Jalal, the emperor and disregarding the farman, his zubaan, his honor/self-respect, Jalal begged her to share Hussein with Jodha for some time. Sharing Hussein meant sharing the MUZ title in her eyes. Which she couldn't allow to occur. Hence, the rigid stance against sharing. Even at the cost of her friendship with Jalal. Once earlier too, she had given up on her friendship with Jalal when she felt that Jodha was carrying Jalal's child. Because the pre-Jodha era Ruq was always used to be the "queen bee" and could not forgive her friend or accept him if he gave away the "prerogative to be the MUZ" to someone other than her.

Deep in her heart of hearts (if she has one.?.), she knows that "truth" about Jalal(that his DIL is functional and beats for Jodha) but she refuses to acknowledge it as she fears that the present 'gala' time will last for a few days only. And when she faces reality, then will feel let down and cause them agony, by going the wrong way in the future,(For Sure.!.) as this is a normal personality attribute, and this only differs in magnitude from person to person depending on the LEVEL of insecurity and the degree upto which they can manipulate their fears from overtaking their inner conscience, and here Ruqayya seems very weak.

This was a good prediction you made 6 months back. 😊 She is going down the wrong way and bringing great agony to everyone.

@text turned Red: As discussed ^^^, Ruq seems to have low self-esteem. She is not aware of her identity or worth as a person. She is therefore unable to control the demons that plague her mind, as they do everyone's minds. She has a "just" side to her, which is increasingly getting pushed down by the demons that want her to retain her auda and hold over Jalal, both of which seem to be slipping away.

Jalal has changed a lot but the same SHOULD also have occured with Ruqayya also. But, as she remains in her OWN world of "Bachpan Ki Dosti" , this clause has categorically DEPLETED Ruqayya, and disallowed her to develop her relation with Jalal. Her diffidence, her fears, her anxiety, have taken a toll on many of her personal qualities which she HAD EARLIER, and now have disappeared. The regal-neSS in her SEEMS LOST. One can analyze this by keeping many dimensions in our mind. I won't quote any single event.

@text turned red: The problem, if I can call it that, is that she does not communicate openly with Jalal, forget about others. She lives in her illusory world where she is the eternal fairytale princess. Whatever fears she may have had, whatever doubts she may have had regarding her own worth to Jalal, whatever diffidence she may have had in searching for and attaining her own identity - she could have and should have discussed with Jalal and found answers. Instead she communicates with him through "zid" and assertion of "her authority". So far, Jalal pandered to her every zid and indulged her notion of being "more equal" than him.

Yesterday too, she tried to play the same cards again. She carefully chose her words and asked him if he would hurt his friend for the sake of helping Jodha and tried to emotionally blackmail him by asserting that he would have to take Hussein from her over her dead body. The earlier Jalal would have been quick to make his friend happy by agreeing to her wishes. But the Jalal who is seeing his once-strong wife crumbling in front of him is not willing to indulge the friend anymore in this regard. He feels, and rightly so, that a person who has lost her child forever and is quickly slipping into a state of soul-less existence needs greater care than someone who is only being asked to "lend" her child for a few days.

Seeing Ruq yesterday gave me hope that her downfall is imminent. Now it is not only a question of holding on to the MUZ title that would give her power in the future but holding on to her control over Jalal that is needed to give her power NOW. It must have disturbed her greatly that the WORD of Jalal was expendable in the face of his love for Jodha. And it must have disturbed her even more that Jalal had not fallen for her usual strategies.

Many would say that her vulnerability / instabilty / fragility / insecurity, has it's roots in her bachpan years, as she lost everything in her childhood..., though i differ here, 'Coz she has BEEN Jalal's WIFE and a Queen for the last 11 years, and hence was EXPECTED to shrug off any such rickety-ness, because all these years Jalal was present with her...She said she RULED the Harem all these years, then where is the insecurity.. She wanted to be BEK, and Jalal gave her that title...She wanted to be Khaas and she remained so...

I would say, the yardstick one sets should not be to feel secure, but to be able to overcome insecurity(if it is PRESENT) or atleast EvolvE. And, the one who fails, for them Darwin has given the answer -> Survival of the Fittest, Rest are Eliminated..!!

@text turned reddish brown: Well said!


@RED underlined..

Very nice point..Is she so fragile that she can be instigated.?. No. She was already nursing that ambition in her inner conscience...I can NOT forget the act where she took away Hussain from Jodha to put her in the cradle.

Though she still has TIME which is FAST running OUT, more or less like Bolt passing through the finish line on the sprints, in the Jamaican ''Heats''. She can change, and if NOT change, adjust herself, and can put a hold on her ever increasing shaky feelings and thereby that "FEAR" can be overcome. Yes, it always gonna take time, and she NeedS a good deal of patience and a slow realization that her own worth is purely a matter of her OWN interpretation, NOT ANY AUHDA or POWER..She was Jalal's BEST FRIEND before the Title of MUZ...Isn't it.?.." .

It seems too late in the day for her to change or evolve or even understand her own worth. All her life, she has been engaged in trying to show her proximity to and hold over Jalal and her superiority over others of her ilk. Hence the comparisons. She can only see herself in terms of how powerful and superior she is wrt others like Jodha. She seems to be a firm believer in the theory of relativity - that everything has a value only in relation to something else and not in absolute terms. (See text turned red below.)

It is true(in her case) that "her" insecurity follows NOT due to her own acts "BUT" from concerns relating to "others" , because Everything, she wants is in comparison to Jodha. She took away the child NOT for fulfilling her ambition to LIVE motherhood, BUT >>

1. To separate Jodha from that Kid,
2. Become MUZ...

Hence, her dialogues yesterday were totally over my head, and i was in NO MOOD to sympathize with her, because (as per promo, which NOW seems true) she is NOT GOING TO GIVE the Kid , ONLY BECAUSE SHE WANTS THE AUHDA of MUZ...!!!!!.. I am totally disconnected from Ruqayya..!!

I can not understand her, as she NEVER ever understood motherhood..
Had she understood it, she would not have asked for the Kid at the first place, FOR HER trying to become MUZ..!!!... SHe FAILS to understand that SHE CAN NOT get EVERY thing she wants..!!. She can not become MUZ but adopted this ROUTE to GET THE POWER Equivalent to that of MUZ through this Kid..!!!..

PS - Pardon me for this boring writeup... ;p

Thanks for the "boring" writeup ;p I understood what you were trying to say. I wanted to ask you to elaborate and you elaborated without my asking. Thanks again! 😊



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Posted: 10 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Guys did you notice something??


Please don't kill me for this...

If we for sometime, try to forget Ruqaiyya's real intentions or think that there is another begum who really wants a child...(please imagine this guys, I know it is not possible... for any other begum including Ruqaiyya to be not power thirsty)...

Now given that Jodha gave away her child to this begum(provided with all the farmaans intact including reverse farmaan that Jalaal took)...

Ok, now that Jodha had lost her child due to the conspiracy of Zeenat...Jalaal has decided to ask back the another child, from that Begum...is this justified???I very well understand his intentions. I know that he just wants to relieve Jodha from her GARBHSHOK...He wants the child so that Jodha may be in peace...


We guys very well know Ruqaiyya's intentions,but if we imagine it not to be her, the question posed by Ruqaiyya is JAAYAZ !!
What about the dreams of a lady, who has adopted a child??She says that, "Kisi ek ki khushi keliye doosre ki khushi cheen na insaafi nahi hai..."

Shayad Jalal was silent due to this reason and leaves from there silently

Please let me know your views guys...I may be wrong...

P.S:I am not supporting Ruqaiyya here!!!


Lasya,

See Abhay's post on Ruq.

I too had wondered the same thing and Abhay's post is a reply to that Q. So your Q stands answered already. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv

Radhika I was angry and sad with Jallu yday... He stil believes her as frn... Wen wil he open his eyes and see ruk ?? Wil ruk intentions of MUZ be out or not?? I can't see Jallu helplessness n numb infront of ruk... Did u see ruk dialgues yday?? She shud ask herself same ques bcz she snatched child from jo and she was talking abt cheen liya yday... Wat kind of bond she developed?? Nothing... Even zeenat feeds kid not her... She has kept hussain for four days and she said she wil die without hussain... I hope she really dies by committing suicide aftr hussain death... I'm not even predicting as I'm getting bad thights abt track these days... I'm not able to see jo pain and want to see happier akdha moments...rukayya is not human... She is alien from sme other planet..


Bhavna

Have a little bit more patience. Finally the downfall track and exposure of RUq's real intentions in front of Jalal started yesterday.

Jalal went there out of compulsion, as he had no other choice. He wanted Hussein whom only she could give. He left numb after hearing her words because he never imagined that Ruq would be so selfish and insensitive to another woman's trauma. Esp a woman who had given Hussein to her willingly. He was not able to answer her strongly because his hands are tied by the farman. If he tries to flex his authority, he knows Ruq may drag him to the DEK again.

I was glad however that he did not fall for her usual strategy of using her friendship card to make him agree with her.

Just watch how this track unfolds. 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Radhika I liked HB & Jallu scene, previously it was MA whom Jalaal used to cry, later it's JO and now it's HB.. No where Ruqu even though about Jallu in all these, as she very well knows how much Jalaal also shattered just like JO...I am happy to see HB is there when JO is not there to console him and clearly told him he needs to be strong and bring back JO normal only if she gets Hussein in her life again...

it's not surprising that Ruku denied to give away to Jalaal, but the way she said he can't take the baby crossing over her death.. Ruqu is not able to see that JO bonding with Hussein when she feed him & cradle him in her arms..

Sindoor scene was so beautiful displayed the emotions of Jalaal for JO, he knows he need to show his love to come to bring her back and normal.. So lovely appiled sindoor and told her he can't live a day without seeing her face.. JO got that HE is there and will be there for her..

I liked the way JO didn't rush to dadi to cry, but lay her head on Jallu shoulder for support while Jallu, hold her tight giving her support & comfort while giving away the bad news to Dadi & Bharmal..


Abhi

Like what you wrote in bold. 😊 Jodha is now more with Jalal than anyone else. So she could not have gone to her dadi. She would have remained with Jalal then to draw courage from him to face her family.

Did u see how Ruq asked Jalal if "sab khairiyat toh hain?"...I mean, she knows what he is going thru and she is still asking this Q. What can you expect from her?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Neetz

Hey Chitti,
Chitti is another word for Mausi in tamil I think. I love it..😛
Got your pm. Thanks
I agree with everything that you've mentioned here. So true. I have gone through all of this too on a personal level so I understand what you're trying to say. I can't add anything here coz you've said it all.
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Coming to yesterday's epi
Loved your posts and Abhay's too. Abhay you're right in saying that Ruk never evolved. She had the chance to but she chose not to take it. She was so high on her audha-obsession by then that nothing else mattered to her. Not even Jalal, her bachpan ka dost. This shone in almost every track.
Even during the divorce case, though her breakdown touched me(maybe coz the dialogues were so apt) but then also it was all about her audha that she'll end up losing if the divorce took place. Whereas Jalal was pained by the mere thought of having to divorce her. She didn't give any importance to the love and care her family showered on her.
The episode was again very beautiful. Subtle in all its emotions. Jodha's venting out her frustration on her Kanha was justified i think for we do tend to question our God when we see that we are being dealt in an unjustified manner. The way then she ran to Hussein on hearing him cry, consoled him,fed him and then put him to sleep not ready to let go was painful to watch for it brought fore the fact that she had turned hollow from inside after having lost Hassan. Being with Hussein made her wholesome again for some time atleast before Ruk so insensitively snatched him from her. The expression on her face was so bleak and lifeless then as if she had lost her child all over again. She had given birth to 2 beautiful sons but was now bereft of both. Ruk was so mean. Jodha had given her child to Ruk,given her a reason to live. Shouldn't Ruk do the same for some time atleast? She should have tried to understand Jodha's pain at this time and given Hussein to Jodha herself. but who are we fooling here?
I loved Jalal-HB scene. It was a welcome change to see the mother-son bond in this time of grief. I had mentioned in my last post that Jalal needed to let go of his pent-up sadness soon and i liked it when his mother came to him and asked him to pull the lid from his emotions and let go of his grief. She asked him to relieve his heart from the burden of apin in his mother's arms.Very beautiful. He needed to stay strong for his wife and couldn't see her in pain. It really touched me when he said he was the Shehenshah Jalal-ud-din Mohommad who used to write his destiny with his mighty shamsheer but couldn't do so this time around. When it came to saving the life of his son he was as helpless as any other man on earth. All the power that he had was of no use.He was helpless infront of God.
You're right in saying that Ruk had already decided to refuse giving Hussein if the situation arose. That's why when Jalal came and asked for Hussein she refused him point blank. Though i didn't like to see him begging for 'his own baby' but that didn't make him look small either. It just showed how much he loved his Jodha. He was ready to put aside his self-respect, his position as an emperor, his word and everything else to beg Ruk for the child so he could give some peace to Jodha even if it was for some time. Wanted to give her a reason to live. But that woman refused. For a moment I did feel that she really loved the baby and couldn't bear to away from him. but we love to hate her. She has made a mockery of a beautiful relation like friendship i feel.
Another scene i loved was the sindoor scene. He said it didn't matter if she wore any jewellery but she had to wear the sindoor for him and went on to fill her mang. It brought home the fact that she had to live for him like he was living for her taking into account that he said he can't get through his day without looking at her once. the eye lock that followed spoke volumes. Very poignant indeed.
Loved how he was supporting her when he broke the sad news to the new arrivals giving her the strength as she faced the reality again.
I am quite intrigued by the arrival of Raja Bharmal and Dadisa. Let's see what role they have to play in this track. Though I would like to mention I didn't like the way this happened. How come they both came to Jodha's room directly unaware of what had happened? Granted they came without informing but once they had reached I am sure word must have been sent to HB and Maan Singh atleast so how come nobody came to greet them and told them the truth. This could have avoided them getting to know about Hassan's demise infront of the already shattered parents. How come they made their way straight to the harem?😕
Here my heart also goes out to baby Hussein who has been reduced to a mere parcel in the game of pass the parcel. He is gonna follow his brother very soon and look at what's happening. Pathetic. This isn't how babies are treated. This baby sharing thing is anyways very disgusting.
Precap- no comments. Ruk is disgusting. She will be in our faces all the time now.Get ready to be tortured by her big time.


Radhika and Neetz,

Loved the thoughts that both of you have shared .😛

I can relate so well to your feelings of remembering your parents with happiness rather than sorrow Radhika. So beautifully said . I lost my father when I was sixteen . My whole world world came crumbling and I was completely lost . I knew that some of my hopes and dreams for the future had gone with him too . Yet I made sure that I remembered him with happiness rather than grief because he would have wanted it that way . I think , even though he was not physically present his strong unseen presence guided me in achieving every single wish of mine. In spite of being bodily absent , he has still fulfilled his duties as parent with his unseen guidance and blessings.
I honestly believe in this quote : ' those we love,don't go away , they walk beside us everyday .Unseen, unheard,but always near.Still loved, still missed and very dear ' ( writer unknown) .

Neetz , you are absolutely correct in wondering about Raja Bharmal and Dadisas entry into the mahal . I thought that during those days and even today , it was/is customary for any birth to be formally announced to the wife / husband's side of the family , same goes for news about death too . I felt it rather strange that Raja Bharmal would make a late visit to see his grandchildren . I guess there are a lot of inconsistencies in direction , that have to be overlooked😉 .

Jodha and Akbar will emerge stronger due to this tragedy . Right now they are grieving for the loss of a creation that was theirs , yet this irreparable loss is what will give them the hope and strength to move forward .

It is high time that the wicked annoyance named Rukaiyya exits from Jalal and Jodha's life . Its bound to happen, the creatives are delaying in getting her to bid adieu, due to their love for her , however I have no doubts that Jalal will definitely keep her far away from Jodha and himself. Jodha's emotional well being is of utmost importance to Jalal, I am eagerly waiting for him to erupt on Rukaiyya and shred her apart for misusing Jodha's good nature and playing with her emotions.


Charu .
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Today's Episode..

I did NOT like Ruqayya's BEIZZATI of Dadisa...That was NOT at ALL required..
I mean what it was.?.

Is Hussain her PERSONAL PROPERTY.?. Even Personal Property is not an apt word here..!!
She DID NOT even allow Dadisa to TOUCH Hussain..
Hussain is her Nati.

Dadisa was ALSO from a ROYAL HOUSEHOLD + She is quite elder...Still she did this.?.

No words. Today Ruqayya was beyond description..!!

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Originally posted by: history_geek

Today's Episode..

I did NOT like Ruqayya's BEIZZATI of Dadisa...That was NOT at ALL required..
I mean what it was.?.

Is Hussain her PERSONAL PROPERTY.?. Even Personal Property is not an apt word here..!!
She DID NOT even allow Dadisa to TOUCH Hussain..
Hussain is her Nati.

Dadisa was ALSO from a ROYAL HOUSEHOLD + She is quite elder...Still she did this.?.

No words. Today Ruqayya was beyond description..!!


Thanks for the feedback Abhay .
I am at work . Now I know what to expect .
Rukaiyya is beyond disgusting . Lesser said about her , better .


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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek

Today's Episode..

I did NOT like Ruqayya's BEIZZATI of Dadisa...That was NOT at ALL required..
I mean what it was.?.

Is Hussain her PERSONAL PROPERTY.?. Even Personal Property is not an apt word here..!!
She DID NOT even allow Dadisa to TOUCH Hussain..
Hussain is her Nati.

Dadisa was ALSO from a ROYAL HOUSEHOLD + She is quite elder...Still she did this.?.

No words. Today Ruqayya was beyond description..!!


Agree You Abhay,


Episode was Ok, +Sad ,

Not liked, Ruk attitude, BM, +Dadi saa, Not allowed, To pick Child,,

GB speak this time, HB order Ruk, Ruk everytime cross Limit, No-Body says anything to Her,

Precap, Is Ruk is blackmailing Jalal emotional..

We know Hussain will not survive, But i think Ruk planed, Child will Live Only In Hozara,
Not play with other Childs, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Child is her Personal Property, If Mother treats this type, Child will Own Run Away.

Secene was so Pure, Mother How, feeled, through sick sense, Her child is going to Danger.This is Mother concativity,Which astablish, When child connect to her in her womb.

After saying again again Jalal, She not sured So She sent Jalal, Ruk Who admits Where is Her Vibes, About Child.

Atleast she blamed Jodha, is responsibile, for Child death, 🤢😡, Ruk Own encourged, Jalal,
To Extreem react.

But i think, This will Sure, Fill Ruk Mind, Jodha Now, Far Away from Jalal's Life, so now this track is going to, Ruk Creation +Ruk Exposure.

Zeenat, I am feeling very Angery, First she Brain washed Ruk, Then, again tried to Kill Hussain,;;;;;;;;;;;;Wake UP Agra People.




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