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Posted: 10 years ago
#51

thanks Sindhu 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: history_geek



Ann,
Watch today's episode for the leads. You will find tremendous change, even though the track is emotionally draining. I am stunned by the last two episodes. Give it a try.

About your question on Ruqs, i am reading the replies on your thread. :)


I saw them finally 😃 And they are really good! RT and PS were so good. I haven't seen such a performance by PS for a long time. It was just perfect and not OTT which is surprising for a telly serial. RT went OTT in MA's death episode but this time even he was restrained and marvellous!

And plz read the replies at leisure 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
#53

Ayushi,

You leave me stunned from time to time. This post of yours is perhaps the best summation of the Jalal-Ruq relationship I have ever read on the forum since I joined.

Thanks Radhika, I also feel for you this,
You have picked your points with care - each one is rational, logical and brooks no argument.

No,I have not picked with care,😆 😆, But automatcally came, When i read, Ann thread, But lot of,Thanks🤗

From innocent childhood to brash youth to maturing early adulthood - the two have come a long way, not just in terms of years spent together but in terms of what they have covered in mental, emotional and spiritual development. Jalal has progressed way ahead of his childhood friend, while she continues to live in a time warped cocoon where she is the eternal fairytale princess who rules over the world. Jalal was helped in his journey by the arrival of Jodha, whereas RUq has no such luck.

Instead of trying to understand what Jalal values in Jodha, she has time and again sought to break them up, believing that Jalal would come back to her if Jodha were not there. But Jalal can now never return to her, Jodha or no Jodha. He has moved far ahead in life and reached the point of no return.

Actually she understands, She have everything, Which will back jalal to Her, but she forget, in reltionship, you have to Daily invest, you cant dominates all time. Actually love has not happen in this realtion, Only Attachmemt, Is, When we attach someone, We want, He or she should be live comforable, This is Jalal point of View, But Ruk understans All things Her Hakk, She needed to Work Her realtionship, But Her habit of, Everything is Mine, By Hook +crook, She creats situations to distub Others, So Gap is coming More.Because she not understanding, Her behaviour is coming Gap between Her +Jalal.But here ques Rise, Jalal is Cool down when talks With Ruk He Hugs Also, But Is Hug Of Ruk or Hug Of Jodha Not have a difference.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Big difference;;;Actually Jalal Blancing Ruk, because he wants Ruk should stop Here, But we know she will not stop. So She will get, Which she is Sowing.




Ironically, while Ruq tries to break up JJ, Jodha always tries to build bridges between Jalal and Ruq and it is the latter's goodness that helps Jalal to ignore Ruq's misdemeanors. Otherwise, Ayushi, if Jodha were a typical woman, how easy would it be for Jalal to ignore RUq's antics?

Jodha is not typical, Its A jodha Grace, It was Jodha Purity, which Beated the Jalal Heart First Time, If she was typical, she also in corner of Harem, & Jalal Ruthless King, Not becomes Akbar, Ques is Jodha Purity, Direct, Hits Jalal Heart. or he fallen in Love With Jodha.Now Heart has came so he is ignoring Ruk stupidness, If he Back his Rudeness
Then Ruk Got punishment Already. Ruk is saving cause of Jodha. But Jodha got punishment, because,Nobody try to say Jalal These things are not Right, But Own checked Own went
& requested Come back Jodha.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Couple Both travels . Not one travells.
Jodha different personality, Confidence, +Strong Will power Or Main Good Heart, Attracts Jalal, or they easily connect, to pass poistive energy to eachother.

What you have said about Ruq appropriating power unto herself and generally behaving like a queen bee is quite true. Jalal may never have actually told her she was his favorite wife or that he loved her the way he confessed to Jodha. Considering he cannot divorce her and punishing her would invite public scrutiny and shame, he is keeping quiet and making allowances for her.

i think its true, She is realtive of GB, HB, Salima, so she have habit of Dominating, from childhood, so others not stop her, Once said HB Ruk is Not A kid, Salima knows own limits, She knows how to stop Ruk, Here Cv problem, Jodha +jalal Sometime extra bears her stupidness.

But God save Ruq if she were to ever try to harm Jodha or his kids. Then he would not let anything stop him from meting out the strongest punishment to her.
Agree
Once again, Ayushi 🤗 your post is brilliant 👏👏👏

Thanks Dear,🤗

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann2012


Lovely post ayushi 👏👏
Your view on the Jalal and Ruq relation is wonderful! You have even added how Jalal has beared with it and continues to handle it, year after year. But in the process not losing his sanity too.
Can't wait for more such awesome posts from you 😳


Thanks Ann, i want to clear, Jalal has beared, He is not bearing, He is blancing Ruk, Blancing +Bearing Have a difference. On her Place, I reply Radhika please Read. He is handling, Ruk.because he not wants problems increased, If a person is unconcioues, No problem. But if he is awareing, Then Real problem comes, How to Maintain Realtions, they not create problems for Others & for Own.

Edited by ayushimehra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very beautifully put ,Ayushi.
Your this point,Ruku and Jalal were same Intially who could not feel for others's pain,is very valid.
And she being is only childhood friend and then his wife mattered a lot in their intial relationship.
And I liked your this point too that she herself always claimed to be near and dear to Jalal and always took extra efforts that her hold on Jalal is permanent.And there was no woman with confidence in Harem who could challenge ruku till Jo came.
And yes your last point is also good that wasting energy on Ruku is of no use.But he has to to do something or else who much insult the women in harem will take ? One day if it goes beyond the boiling point then the things would be tough for Jalal.So he has to put Ruku in her place not only for Jo but for other begums too.
Very well written,Ayushi.👏


Thanks Rashmi,🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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she is his first wife, childhood friend, his cousin too...he himself gave her title of khaas begum much before he marry jodha, because out of hundred she was best and she would have remained best , if jalal did not fell in love with jodha...
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ayushimehra


Ayushi,

You leave me stunned from time to time. This post of yours is perhaps the best summation of the Jalal-Ruq relationship I have ever read on the forum since I joined.

Thanks Radhika, I also feel for you this,
You have picked your points with care - each one is rational, logical and brooks no argument.

No,I have not picked with care,😆 😆, But automatcally came, When i read, Ann thread, But lot of,Thanks🤗

From innocent childhood to brash youth to maturing early adulthood - the two have come a long way, not just in terms of years spent together but in terms of what they have covered in mental, emotional and spiritual development. Jalal has progressed way ahead of his childhood friend, while she continues to live in a time warped cocoon where she is the eternal fairytale princess who rules over the world. Jalal was helped in his journey by the arrival of Jodha, whereas RUq has no such luck.

Instead of trying to understand what Jalal values in Jodha, she has time and again sought to break them up, believing that Jalal would come back to her if Jodha were not there. But Jalal can now never return to her, Jodha or no Jodha. He has moved far ahead in life and reached the point of no return.

Actually she understands, She have everything, Which will back jalal to Her, but she forget, in reltionship, you have to Daily invest, you cant dominates all time. Actually love has not happen in this realtion, Only Attachmemt, Is, When we attach someone, We want, He or she should be live comforable, This is Jalal point of View, But Ruk understans All things Her Hakk, She needed to Work Her realtionship, But Her habit of, Everything is Mine, By Hook +crook, She creats situations to distub Others, So Gap is coming More.Because she not understanding, Her behaviour is coming Gap between Her +Jalal.But here ques Rise, Jalal is Cool down when talks With Ruk He Hugs Also, But Is Hug Of Ruk or Hug Of Jodha Not have a difference.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Big difference;;;Actually Jalal Blancing Ruk, because he wants Ruk should stop Here, But we know she will not stop. So She will get, Which she is Sowing.




Ironically, while Ruq tries to break up JJ, Jodha always tries to build bridges between Jalal and Ruq and it is the latter's goodness that helps Jalal to ignore Ruq's misdemeanors. Otherwise, Ayushi, if Jodha were a typical woman, how easy would it be for Jalal to ignore RUq's antics?

Jodha is not typical, Its A jodha Grace, It was Jodha Purity, which Beated the Jalal Heart First Time, If she was typical, she also in corner of Harem, & Jalal Ruthless King, Not becomes Akbar, Ques is Jodha Purity, Direct, Hits Jalal Heart. or he fallen in Love With Jodha.Now Heart has came so he is ignoring Ruk stupidness, If he Back his Rudeness
Then Ruk Got punishment Already. Ruk is saving cause of Jodha. But Jodha got punishment, because,Nobody try to say Jalal These things are not Right, But Own checked Own went
& requested Come back Jodha.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Couple Both travels . Not one travells.
Jodha different personality, Confidence, +Strong Will power Or Main Good Heart, Attracts Jalal, or they easily connect, to pass poistive energy to eachother.

What you have said about Ruq appropriating power unto herself and generally behaving like a queen bee is quite true. Jalal may never have actually told her she was his favorite wife or that he loved her the way he confessed to Jodha. Considering he cannot divorce her and punishing her would invite public scrutiny and shame, he is keeping quiet and making allowances for her.

i think its true, She is realtive of GB, HB, Salima, so she have habit of Dominating, from childhood, so others not stop her, Once said HB Ruk is Not A kid, Salima knows own limits, She knows how to stop Ruk, Here Cv problem, Jodha +jalal Sometime extra bears her stupidness.

But God save Ruq if she were to ever try to harm Jodha or his kids. Then he would not let anything stop him from meting out the strongest punishment to her.
Agree
Once again, Ayushi 🤗 your post is brilliant 👏👏👏

Thanks Dear,🤗


Thanks Ayushi for an awesome post! 👏
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Posted: 10 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: ranogill

she is his first wife, childhood friend, his cousin too...he himself gave her title of khaas begum much before he marry jodha, because out of hundred she was best and she would have remained best , if jalal did not fell in love with jodha...


@bold
i doubt this 😉

He gave her this title because she wrestled it out of him, i think. Otherwise, Jalal had only one high-born wife among those hundred, rest were concubines or wives of lesser birth. Would Jalal have given the title to them? And Jodha isn't 'khaas' only because Jalal loves her, she had been declared a khaas begum before JJ realized they were in love. If love was the only condition for khaasness, then how do you explain Salima being a khaas begum?

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