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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: karishma.s

I'm pretty sure at the end of this track, jalal and jodha are firmly going to put ruks in her place. Jodha I want her to tell ruks that why she agreed giving the chils in the first place And how now she does not have any guilt that she came to earn jalal's love cause such a selfish woman who can even use her supposedly best friends child to fulfill her desires of power and revenge is not worthy of jalall's love in the first place. And I want jalal to firmly tell her why he tolerated all her actions and now he hates her selfishness and why he loves jodha. He should show her the mirror. The difference between the selfless jodha and the selfish self of ruks. He should also tell her that no matter what she does, jodha will always be an integral and most important part of his life. He should tell her that it is not because of jodha, but because of her own deeds that he has distanced himself from her. I want jj to be free of all guilt and ruks will have nothing left at the end, nor the Audhe she did this for and nor jalal. The very begum's who used to fear her will mock her. This is the end of the line for ruks.



hope what you said comes true...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: rima4ever

ok may be not insecurity
but she was his childhood friend and 1st wife
we are talking about pre jodha time
so that time they shared a good relation i feel


That was the question! Before Jodha's entry, Ruqaiya was favored by Jalal the most. But why? Just because she was his childhood friend and first wife? She wasn't a viable support and stomped all over him just to make herself feel superior. But still Jalal considered her as his best friend 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: karishma.s

I'm pretty sure at the end of this track, jalal and jodha are firmly going to put ruks in her place. Jodha I want her to tell ruks that why she agreed giving the chils in the first place And how now she does not have any guilt that she came to earn jalal's love cause such a selfish woman who can even use her supposedly best friends child to fulfill her desires of power and revenge is not worthy of jalall's love in the first place. And I want jalal to firmly tell her why he tolerated all her actions and now he hates her selfishness and why he loves jodha. He should show her the mirror. The difference between the selfless jodha and the selfish self of ruks. He should also tell her that no matter what she does, jodha will always be an integral and most important part of his life. He should tell her that it is not because of jodha, but because of her own deeds that he has distanced himself from her. I want jj to be free of all guilt and ruks will have nothing left at the end, nor the Audhe she did this for and nor jalal. The very begum's who used to fear her will mock her. This is the end of the line for ruks.


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That is the true reason of deteriorating Jalal and Ruqaiya's relationship 👍🏼 Now only JJ need to realize this. And at some point, i hope, Ruqaiya does too.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon




@bold: good one Ann.. Ruks can get away with what ever she does, reason being she is Jalal child hood friend and first Begum. But when it come to Jodha nothing matters. Ruks can insult Jalal, but those are forgotten or not even mentioned.


Thanks Sindhu 😳
Jodha is always implicated. It doesn't matter what she does. Her good isn't good enough. Her bad is always the worst. When she is good, she is mocked as a saint and said to be not human enough. When she showcases a little spunk and arrogance, she is called ungrateful and a pathetic wife. At the end of the day, not all can be impressed. I, You and many of the people in IF like Jodha. There are few who don't and prefer Ruqaiya, i don't know why. I have made this thread to figure out why, but still haven't reached a conclusive answer. I think it says much about their choice 😉
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Thanks once again Sindhu 😳
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ann, good to see you back. Don't disappear cos Jodha needs all the support she can get here!

Ruk can never do anything wrong here 😉 Poor Ruk, lonely Ruk blah blah


I think Jalal had very few he trusted, in his inner circle. Ruk was one of them and as we have seen he trusted even BK, MA and Ruk blindly.

Did Ruk not gloat that no matter how big a lie she tells Jalal will believe her with eyes closed (in fake pregnancy track). CVs ended that track cos TRPs fell with viewers disgusted, otherwise CVs would might have carried their Ruk glorification to her full term who knows! After all Ruk was insulting Jodha and making her work like a bandi and Ruk was making Jalal dance to her tune - CVs favorite track it must have been.

Since Jalal had very few he trusted, he always overlooked Ruk's antics and NEVER punished her. Jalal has not even brought out her plots in front of anybody else - Moorti kand, Sujamal in haram, fake pregnancy - Ruk gloats and lordes over insulting everybody cos she knows no matter how nasty she is Jalal will just cuddle and kiss her - even if she insults Jodha AND him.

Why she is BEK? Cos Jalal is not ready to look at Ruk's faults. He has lost BK and MA so Jalal is overlooking every nasty antic of Ruk.
Ruk has no class, is crass, violent, liar and cheater who did not think twice about faking pregnancy how damaging it would have been to Jalal as a Shehenshah and painful as a husband who was longing for a child.

Ruk knows she can do anything and will never have to pay. By her constant taunts to Jodha - Ruk has succeeded in making her feel guilty that Jalal loves Jodha. Jodha also knows Jalal considers Ruk his best friend so for both these reasons Jodha takes all of Ruk's insults and Jalal does not ever say a thing to Ruk when she insults Jodha.

Viewers are SICK of Ruk glorification but she is CVs darling Jaan Begum so what do they care?

Jalal and Jodha characters can be butchered, they both can be insulted in DEK - Jaan Begum of course not!

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Posted: 10 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: ann2012



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Edited by prav2 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Ann, good to see you back. Don't disappear cos Jodha needs all the support she can get here!

Ruk can never do anything wrong here 😉 Poor Ruk, lonely Ruk blah blah


I think Jalal had very few he trusted, in his inner circle. Ruk was one of them and as we have seen he trusted even BK, MA and Ruk blindly.

Did Ruk not gloat that no matter how big a lie she tells Jalal will believe her with eyes closed (in fake pregnancy track). CVs ended that track cos TRPs fell with viewers disgusted, otherwise CVs would might have carried their Ruk glorification to her full term who knows! After all Ruk was insulting Jodha and making her work like a bandi and Ruk was making Jalal dance to her tune - CVs favorite track it must have been.

Since Jalal had very few he trusted, he always overlooked Ruk's antics and NEVER punished her. Jalal has not even brought out her plots in front of anybody else - Moorti kand, Sujamal in haram, fake pregnancy - Ruk gloats and lordes over insulting everybody cos she knows no matter how nasty she is Jalal will just cuddle and kiss her - even if she insults Jodha AND him.

Why she is BEK? Cos Jalal is not ready to look at Ruk's faults. He has lost BK and MA so Jalal is overlooking every nasty antic of Ruk.
Ruk has no class, is crass, violent, liar and cheater who did not think twice about faking pregnancy how damaging it would have been to Jalal as a Shehenshah and painful as a husband who was longing for a child.

Ruk knows she can do anything and will never have to pay. By her constant taunts to Jodha - Ruk has succeeded in making her feel guilty that Jalal loves Jodha. Jodha also knows Jalal considers Ruk his best friend so for both these reasons Jodha takes all of Ruk's insults and Jalal does not ever say a thing to Ruk when she insults Jodha.

Viewers are SICK of Ruk glorification but she is CVs darling Jaan Begum so what do they care?

Jalal and Jodha characters can be butchered, they both can be insulted in DEK - Jaan Begum of course not!


Good to hear from you too Maddy 😃

And atta girl! Your post is awesome and adds another point to why Jodha tolerates Ruqaiya's insults ⭐️

I don't get it why such love for her character? Never has she been humiliated in DEK when almost everyone in the serial has been degraded in public. MA, AK, SD, Bakshi, Jodha, Jalal, Man Singh, entire Ameri clan, BK along with SB, Zakira, TM, Moti and even Tansen, Birbal haven't been spared. Ruqaiya se itta pyaar kyun hai bhai?

I don't think merely being in his close circle made her the BEK. She must have bullied that title and harem out of Jalal, i am sure. Must have blackmailed him and sulked like crazy. I don't think Jalal, before SB or Jo's entry, would have thought of crowning his only high-born wife with this title. Young men busy with war and apparently heartless, don't have time for such stuff. Neither did Ruqaiya have any proper competition except from few clever and beautiful concubines. And of course, none can match Ruqaiya in bullying 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39
its a dramatisation of historical characters not reality
god knows now watching some stupid dramatic serials people will question the real people in history
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi, Good Post, Or vallid ques, Why Ruk is favourite, to Jalal,coming before Jodha,

I think, Favourite word Have its Own Beautiful meaning, If a person titled up BEK, or that person own highlites, she is BEK, That not means She is favourite of A King, Cum husband
If a power Liking person, Own Adding, to presurrise Others, what she is, or Own understaning, she is Some special, Others are Keep quite, because Others not wants, senseless Drama will happen Daily on Place,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;so its like This.


Ruk entered Jalal life, Childhood,She Was his cousin, So they became childhood friends. Soon they got married.As a child hood friend, +wife, +opposite Sex, naturally, A growing Boy will be attract .Both Taste of Rudeness were same that time. Both enjoys Others Pain Ruthless life.
Both Want to enjoy Others Pain, Or Own Power. Power Game was Happening.

At that point, BK, OR Maham they have also insentive persons, But they wants Jalal as A king should not defeated, Because That way they Own go To Loss.

But They three not denies, Akbar Harsh deseions. They aprriciated, Akbar One Weakness, He can't read, Forced him to, come back Ruk again again, Naturally, Child hood friends or Who supports Us, we like them, Maybee We Right Or wrong.

Others femals was Also in Harem, But its Man habit He Always attracts, Confident Femals,
Others were less confidents, comparsion To Ruk. Or Ruk knows, How to tackle Man, or How to Use Power, So she Knows survive Own, Not create space for Others, Own poistion is necessary, Or if you want to survive, Own become No 1 , But she was also growing, Jalal was busy, Outer, or she was busy, Gaining Power in Harem. But her mind was Clear, By hook By Crook, Maintain NO 1 poistion,if needed Speak some Lie,

But growing Mind started, Cheating internally, But she knows, if she loosed BEK poistion, or if she fallen in jalal eyes, She has no Space in Jalal life,So she always Aware this point.
So she start to hide things. But how A Busy Man can suddenely suspects her Wife.But Ruk desire,started, Hold others. But because Jalal will power was strong, So front of Jalal, ruk poistion, always, Equal, to Jalal, Sometime Less, But she not in poistion even today,or full life She full dominate to Jalal. so She Own have To aware, this point.

Suddenely Jodha entered Jalal Life. She was Jalal's Love, Love which happened First seeing Her, Heart connection, jalal side connected, But supress, in Hates Form.
But Things changing Now. Because Heart was attach, & Jalal have habit to watching Things,
He started To see Lifes, Second Side. First Cause of Jallad type, nature was tough, but Jodha, will Power +Vision clearty, +Confirm Decesions. Right Time Right decesion Fearless, Or Femal personality, slowely slowely changed Jalal.Or Both in Love, Or New style of Life was Comfrotable +respectable.That got Jalal respect More Outer side, He became Akbar, He started, to Learn Humanside.

But Jalal tried to convience ruk time to Time, Jodha is in her Life, He values Her, But Less learning Habit of ruk, Not changed Her.She is busy How Jalal & Jodha distanced. Sometime
she sucessful like Maham. But When You Love from someone, Love has habit To sortout things &, Moved On Next. Akdha faces a lot Own sort out, because both knows, they can't live without eachother.Both chemistery from Heart, Automatically, Travels , Inner +outer journey, Both have Hunger of Learning.

When Jalal Saw ruk is no changing, FP, is big Ex, Child issu, second, But here Jodha also wants to Give Child. Some CV problem, seeing secenes. So he leaved Ruk,tackle own nature, Own, Because You can't all time, shout . On Wife. You can't punish, When you not sure she did a Big crime.Big crime, should be Prove. When two persons Live together, Someattachment natural, Love +attachment have a difference. Ruk Understands, Possiveness +Attchment is a Love, & She belives in domination.If Dominations comes from Heart,Sometimes changes into Love, but Here possieveness , extreem, incresing Ruk jealousey, she doing again again, internally, stupid creations. Sometime stopping is necessary,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But Is Ruk that type personality, Jalal will say, she will stop. No.
Wife & Husband realtionship, is Not a easy Task. Your One creation will effect, All kingdom Man, if one is stupid, Other try to solve. Very tough. But it happens.you can name it adjustment.

As A king your duty is to Handle All Hindustan, You can;t focues your energy Own Ruk only. But he knows, Ruk have No treatment,😆, So he is blancing as A husband, Love +blancing have a difference. Sometime we do these things, other will not create more Problems.so he ignore Ruk stupidness, Sometimes, Ruk Cleverness is so big, not Comes out full truth
Because As A king or as a husband, he not leaves her easily because she is wife., But Sometime speaking is necessary. where needed or Jalal not speaks, its a CV problem, Real life Akbar i think not do these type of things.We mostely know Ruk will be punished, but if we see these things Jalal point of view, Hindstan king was so honest, or so powerful, We know, but As a husband How much he feeled, Upset, His wife did some, Major mistake, or she punished.
This time As A king how his duty is to Blance Outside, Interally his duty is also blance, so he is same doing.But lets see.

Edited by ayushimehra - 10 years ago

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