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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: karishma.s

Hi mansi. Missed your analysis on Saturday's maha episode. To think of it mansi, all maha episodes have nothing major. It is always just setting the stage for the next week. Anyways, I think what jodha did to maham that is lying about the pregnancy is ok. It is like what anyone of us would do to a person who is trying to commit suicide. We woul try hard and even lie to stop the person. I think that is what she did. Moreover what I feel is that jodha after knowing how many times maham saved jalal, she feels a sense of responsibility towards her. She knows that whatever jalal may say, he is hurt, whenever he thinks of her betrayal. Also she knows that the doctor has said only few hours are left of her survival. She just wants her to get a peaceful death as she knows that if she dies in jail, jalal will not say it but he will consider himself to be responsible that he was the reason for such a painful death. I know it is not right and that jalal is nowhere responsible for where maham is now, but then that is how he feels when it comes to his close ones. Even adham he killed for punishing him, but in the throne burning scene he dull called him his brother. So jalal will live with guilt all his life and jodha does not want that. That is why she is doing what she is doing for maham. I know that we don't want to see her glorious farewell for all sins she has done, but here history is followed so we can't say much. By the way mansi, did you notice that atleast she told jodha that she wanted to meet Javeeda. Well she hates her still but knows that she is the only one who is even bothered about her existence and will tell her something about Javeeda. So she will soften towards her finally, I guess.

Mansi. When it comes to ruks, I think jalal is back to what he does best not looking at any of his jaan begum's mistakes. He was so angry with her on Friday and since Saturday, all the anger is gone? He is smiling at rukaiya? He does not know about the MUZ obsession. He just took the Farman to ensure the good upbringing from his child cause he does not trust her as a mom. I would love for him to be teda but let's see. I want every action of the fake pregnancy reversed too.
Sharrif plan, I think jodha will save him. Otherwise, no need to be in jodha's room, I guess. I really don't know of the precap. I too want letching to be revealed in front of jalal. I'm dying to see posseive jalal who will tell him that jodha belongs to him only.
Well that is it for today.

That is a good point which I have marked in blue! very interesting!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
Mansi I didn't have any issues with maha episode nor yesterday
its moving with its own flow and if we put rightly maham is not getting farewell its ashwini who getting her last act
we knew from beginning how she ph cv fav and ekta gave her role just imp as leads and always good writing dialogue so enjoy her last days

second I didn't find jodha lie inappropriate she just wanted maham to get that will power back which one need for living
she was committing sucide by ni eating and having medicines and only waymaham can move her ddirection is one name called adham jodha just showed her that way
and still yesterday she didn't plead her both were in character strong determined one not to live another make her live and really liked it

abt curse part if she was scared then she would have been doing poojas all along how hamida tied a dhaga on her how ruq did nazar utaro act and how when she prayed she did for maham peace the person who scared from curse dont behave like that
I thought she did this for jalal and maham relationship she wanted this for jalal for his peace and mahams ending

ruq and jalal and there equation is like two government parties who maybe one day fight or say bad or give dhamki to break alliance still salon saal saath rehte hai
that irritate me to core thats only time I hate jalal is no where firm when ruq involved
jodha have always been good to ruq grom intial episodes
but jalal he is double dholki or cvs make him like that and that characteristics of him annoy me like hell

ruq bhandaphhod is waiting waiting she is sitting on permanent reserve seat in agra train and we are not confirmed

I called zee acc to them they shooted maham death and there is no twins birth till oct mid I don't know how it will go
but I want akdha scenes where they really only talking about babies
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33
Mansi, Thanks for the nice update. I may not be able to give my views for few more days till such time my boss returns from Srinagar. I am burdened with his work load as well.
If possible will try later in the day.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34
Great post mansi.
How much i enjoyed to read your post as much i did not enjoy a episode one bit. I found the episode quite boring.
I am not liking it the cvs are giving a villian, a evil person Maham a very glorification death and also did not like it to give her some life jodha said lie to her. I understand that jodha intention is right but still i did not like one bit. Maham,who always created trouble in jodha life, who killed jalal stillborn kid , treat chand begum like a slave, and totally broke the jalal and cvs is giving her a very good death which she did not deserve.
I think time has come shariffudin to flee from the agra but i donot think jodha will save him. I think this time jalal will handle the situation himself and also will get his leechad intention towards jodha and also there was a pic jalal in soilder getup.
And we have to tolerate ruk some more time. Till now i did not find any sign of her expousre and also i hope she will not try to kill baby. It will hurt jalal more and before birth of the children this matter will solve because i cannot see one child of jodha in ruk arm.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi mansi
a very nice analysis as usual,i enjoyed reading ur take...actually i liked the ME and yest. episodes as they are a high drama a lighter episodes.
and to your questions
i didn't find any fault with Jo and javeda lying to maham because i guess Jo want maham to have a peaceful death .in Hinduism there is a belief that if a person dies with unfullfilled wish they cannot reach afterlife and their souls are bound to earth.. And a lie is always considered atruth if it is said for good purpose .but i don't like the fact that she goes and asks maham to take back the curse ..it doesn't goes with Jo's character at all and i truly believe a curse or a prophecy becomes true only if we accept it or fear for it and Jo even in earlier episodes said she believes only in easwar and he will take care and y should she suddenly worry abt this curse? Unless she wants maham to think she has a reason to come to her and thereby not finding abt her lie..i prefer to believe this way.
2.abt ruq and with her chess analogy i believe atleast for now
her intention is only to share the muz title with Jo and not to kill her and her baby.(in chess at the start of the game there will be a queen which is Jo who by being the birth mother of the emperor would automatically get the title ..now as the game proceeds a pawn also can become a queen when it reaches the very end of the board ..in reality its just a pawn but it will get all the powers of the queen so all ruq has to do is act sad to Jo or the child that just because of her desire to become mother she has denied the child's huq to become emperor which otherwise could have shared it with his twin brother and
Jo being Jo would quote lava quasa and thereby without being a muz in reality she can enjoy all the powers that come along with muz since she only has the huq for the child)
but i think for sure the child will not be given to ruq before that
something will happen and Jalal will cancel it and this will enrage ruq after all her caring for Jo and this will lead to kill Jo and she might be caught and punished.
after that fake ruq preg torture i really wanted to see the reverse and I'm happy CV's are doing that and i think this is only jalal's intention too and i pray he is only acting ...
3.as far as sharif is concerned i don't understand y when mansingh was given the duty to rebuild Agra prison what ahppend with it? Did he find the surang or not? Or the CV's have coveniently forgotten abt it to enable sharif's attack and fleeing ?
Edited by prav2 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36
Mansi firstly if they are going to show same care taken by Ruk of Jodha, as Jodha was made to do in Ruks's fake pregnancy track then "I am eagerly waiting for the pressing of Jodha's feet by Ruk" - absolutely necessary this scene for viewers to get some peace! 😉😆

I do not think Jodha did anything wrong - she did not have any selfish motive, nor was Jodha even thinking or worrying about the curse in all this time. If Resham had not repeatedly begged for Jodha's help for MA - then Jodha would not have given any thought to MA at all.

MA is not dying of any illness or injury but cos she had stopped eating. If someone does this in today's times also authorities will step in and force feed this person. Jodha is doing this technically.

About the lie my pov is different.

I don't think Jodha cares much about the curse. However, Jodha has seen how broken Jalal was about the curse, the takht burning and his bitter crying was due to curse on his unborn babies.

Jodha is doing this for MA out of humanity, her own pure and kind nature and also most importantly for Jalal. It is not as if after getting curse Jodha was trying for MA to take them back. Since MA asked if Jodha wanted something - ONLY THEN Jodha said take curse back.

What was the alternative? Let MA die without eating anything? Jodha prefers to think of MA's good deeds, saving Jalal when he was little rather then her ugly face now.

I think here is how this might develop

SD BB's daughter is not deaf - I think SD has been slipping her some arc since after getting the subas from Jalal. He does not want to be seen to be his daughter's murderer. So when BB said Hakima told Baby will be all right he gave an evil look. He must know it is not deafness but something he is slipping to baby that is making her become weak.

I think the attack might happen and later BB's baby might pass away and Jalal, Ruk and everybody will think it is due to MA's curse this happened.

Meanwhile Javeda might tell this to MA and ask her how she will feel if now BB thinks her curse caused this and in turn curses the baby in her womb? How will MA feel if Adham's baby is cursed by everybody. This will shock MA and make her realize what she did. Later Javeda might tell her that she is not sure of the pregnancy but they said this just so she eats cos inspite of the evils she did to Jalal and Jodha - they still care about her. Jalal used to call her Badi Ammi so Jodha also did this for her forgetting everything.

This might make MA rethink and Javeda might say that she is not sure about pregnancy. So MA might hope for it but know why the white lie was told. Then she might change her mind and want to meet Jalal.

So MA will lift the curse when dying and this and the patch-up will give Jalal a huge relief and burden off his mind about the curses being lifted.

Later it might come out Hakima will tell that BB's baby did not die due to any illness but was fed some ark in small doses by someone. Meanwhile SD would have fled and might have said something about not wanting a daughter. So everybody will know SD murdered his daughter.

BB might then break down and tell Jalal that he never loved her or her daughter, he always hated Jalal and about his feelings for Jodha.

I think while sleeping Jalal might hear a noise and go to investigate and enter into a surang. Jodha might wake-up later and not seeing Jalal try to find and see the surang entrance and might go in after hearing voice of Jalal or fighting. Jodha will save Jalal how is to be seen.

I think spoiler about leap till delivery might be true since nobody is allowed on the sets of JA. However I do NOT ABSOLUTELY WILL HATE TO watch if Ruk actually gets a baby. I want it to happen that Jalal Jodha discover her plot and using the farman she is denied the baby.

Cos zee twit was about Jodha discovering Ruk real motive. Maybe Jodha will use the wish Ruk had given her after saving Jalal's life in Ben track by saying she wants her baby back since Ruk has no love for the baby only for the audha. If Ruk wants she can be co-MUZ since Jodha does not care but she wants her baby to be raised by two loving parents not by someone who wants it for getting an audha.

Ruk might refuse granting Jodha's wish then Jalal might say if Ruk is not keeping her word given to Jodha how does she expect others to keep theirs? Also how can Jalal trust her word given in farman she will take care of the baby? If Jodha does not trust Ruk with the baby and asking for baby back by wish Ruk gave if Ruk does not grant it. Jalal also cannot trust her to stand by her farman and trust her with the baby.

So either way Ruk will not get the baby. This is what I want to see.

Even in NR if Ruk gets an innocent baby as a pawn in her ugly power games it should not happen.

Ruk might get crazed for being trapped like this and later in revenge might try to kill Jodha.

PS : I HATE that Jalal ALWAYS BUT ALWAYS forgives Ruk no matter how badly she behaves. Ruk is the most pampered person not just in JA but of CVs too! 🤢
Edited by MaddyO - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#37
I want to see Jalal hits and tortures by Sharif ,but I do not want never see jodha save him again, I'm bored of this stupid scenario
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, Thanks for the nice update. I may not be able to give my views for few more days till such time my boss returns from Srinagar. I am burdened with his work load as well.

If possible will try later in the day.

Take my advice ... next week you take leave and dump everything on the boss!😆😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: ---jais---

Great post mansi.
How much i enjoyed to read your post as much i did not enjoy a episode one bit. I found the episode quite boring.
I am not liking it the cvs are giving a villian, a evil person Maham a very glorification death and also did not like it to give her some life jodha said lie to her. I understand that jodha intention is right but still i did not like one bit. Maham,who always created trouble in jodha life, who killed jalal stillborn kid , treat chand begum like a slave, and totally broke the jalal and cvs is giving her a very good death which she did not deserve.
I think time has come shariffudin to flee from the agra but i donot think jodha will save him. I think this time jalal will handle the situation himself and also will get his leechad intention towards jodha and also there was a pic jalal in soilder getup.
And we have to tolerate ruk some more time. Till now i did not find any sign of her expousre and also i hope she will not try to kill baby. It will hurt jalal more and before birth of the children this matter will solve because i cannot see one child of jodha in ruk arm.

God point of view Jais, but we have to see how many agree or disagree on these points. Today I am expecting lots of varied responses from everyone!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hi Mansi, very poignant questions .
Jodha shouldn't have lied about something as crucial and sensitive as babies, which didn't exist . She could have feigned that Javeda also has left food and water hearing MA's state. She could've built up on this lie
Imagine, if MA did recovered and then found out to be a lie, she'll immediately collapse and die, Javeda's pregnancy is that life for her. Jodha herself knows that not much time is there for Maham, any which way.
If MA dies without knowing the truth, will her soul rest in peace ? No.
I for one wants MA to know the truth before her death, she should then be grateful to Jodha, that to save her life , Jodha let go of her goodwill in God's eyes...this is no mean feat.
Regarding about the curse, its not something about believing it, its about HURT...and both Jalal and Jodha have been hurt, its also for the peace of MA, death is a great leveller , MA soul will not be in peace if she died with the curse and not nullified it.
The bottom line is Peace of the dying soul, which is for now utmost important, which also lies in MA disclosing all her sins and asking for forgiveness from ALL. Believe me Jalal will forgive her in her deathbed, that doesn't mean he'll not be hurt, he'll be immensely hurt at the disclosure but that willbe for other time .

Rashmi: I don't think your wish of Ruqaiya pressing Jodha's feet will come true and personally I don't want it. Rukku is Rukku and Jodha is Jodha...she's that dignity within her, she won't do to lower herself.
If at all that scene is executed, should be when Jodha is sleeping and NOT when she's awake and aware.

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