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Posted: 10 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi firstly if they are going to show same care taken by Ruk of Jodha, as Jodha was made to do in Ruks's fake pregnancy track then "I am eagerly waiting for the pressing of Jodha's feet by Ruk" - absolutely necessary this scene for viewers to get some peace! 😉😆

Well said, Buddy! In fact I would ask Jodha to insist on whole body massage!

I do not think Jodha did anything wrong - she did not have any selfish motive, nor was Jodha even thinking or worrying about the curse in all this time. If Resham had not repeatedly begged for Jodha's help for MA - then Jodha would not have given any thought to MA at all.

Yes that is absolutely correct! If resham had not called Jodha she may not have gone to the prison.


MA is not dying of any illness or injury but cos she had stopped eating. If someone does this in today's times also authorities will step in and force feed this person. Jodha is doing this technically.

About the lie my pov is different.

I don't think Jodha cares much about the curse. However, Jodha has seen how broken Jalal was about the curse, the takht burning and his bitter crying was due to curse on his unborn babies.

Jodha is doing this for MA out of humanity, her own pure and kind nature and also most importantly for Jalal. It is not as if after getting curse Jodha was trying for MA to take them back. Since MA asked if Jodha wanted something - ONLY THEN Jodha said take curse back.

What was the alternative? Let MA die without eating anything? Jodha prefers to think of MA's good deeds, saving Jalal when he was little rather then her ugly face now.
Maddy, my point on this is: Are the two issues are separate i.e. the lie about javeeda and the request to retract the curses? If we separate these two then it makes Jodha look better. She lied regarding Javeeda pregnancy to prevent maham suicide ... and separately she also asked Maham to retract the curses for the sake of Jalal.
The moral issue comes if we club the two elements and think : Jodha told a lie to make Maham live so that she could ask her to retract the curses.
Now if we put it like this, then Jodha's lie looks like bad ethics. So since we believe in Jodha's good intentions we have to assume that these two things - lie and curses retraction were two separate issues in Jodha's mind.

I think here is how this might develop

SD BB's daughter is not deaf - I think SD has been slipping her some arc since after getting the subas from Jalal. He does not want to be seen to be his daughter's murderer. So when BB said Hakima told Baby will be all right he gave an evil look. He must know it is not deafness but something he is slipping to baby that is making her become weak.
I buy this theory that Sharif is drugging the baby. Because I also feel the baby was not born deaf, it is deteriorating in health.

I think the attack might happen and later BB's baby might pass away and Jalal, Ruk and everybody will think it is due to MA's curse this happened.

Meanwhile Javeda might tell this to MA and ask her how she will feel if now BB thinks her curse caused this and in turn curses the baby in her womb? How will MA feel if Adham's baby is cursed by everybody. This will shock MA and make her realize what she did. Later Javeda might tell her that she is not sure of the pregnancy but they said this just so she eats cos inspite of the evils she did to Jalal and Jodha - they still care about her. Jalal used to call her Badi Ammi so Jodha also did this for her forgetting everything.

This might make MA rethink and Javeda might say that she is not sure about pregnancy. So MA might hope for it but know why the white lie was told. Then she might change her mind and want to meet Jalal.

So MA will lift the curse when dying and this and the patch-up will give Jalal a huge relief and burden off his mind about the curses being lifted.

Later it might come out Hakima will tell that BB's baby did not die due to any illness but was fed some ark in small doses by someone. Meanwhile SD would have fled and might have said something about not wanting a daughter. So everybody will know SD murdered his daughter.

BB might then break down and tell Jalal that he never loved her or her daughter, he always hated Jalal and about his feelings for Jodha.

I think while sleeping Jalal might hear a noise and go to investigate and enter into a surang. Jodha might wake-up later and not seeing Jalal try to find and see the surang entrance and might go in after hearing voice of Jalal or fighting. Jodha will save Jalal how is to be seen.

I think spoiler about leap till delivery might be true since nobody is allowed on the sets of JA. However I do NOT ABSOLUTELY WILL HATE TO watch if Ruk actually gets a baby. I want it to happen that Jalal Jodha discover her plot and using the farman she is denied the baby.

Cos zee twit was about Jodha discovering Ruk real motive. Maybe Jodha will use the wish Ruk had given her after saving Jalal's life in Ben track by saying she wants her baby back since Ruk has no love for the baby only for the audha. If Ruk wants she can be co-MUZ since Jodha does not care but she wants her baby to be raised by two loving parents not by someone who wants it for getting an audha.

Ruk might refuse granting Jodha's wish then Jalal might say if Ruk is not keeping her word given to Jodha how does she expect others to keep theirs? Also how can Jalal trust her word given in farman she will take care of the baby? If Jodha does not trust Ruk with the baby and asking for baby back by wish Ruk gave if Ruk does not grant it. Jalal also cannot trust her to stand by her farman and trust her with the baby.

So either way Ruk will not get the baby. This is what I want to see.

Even in NR if Ruk gets an innocent baby as a pawn in her ugly power games it should not happen.

Ruk might get crazed for being trapped like this and later in revenge might try to kill Jodha.

PS : I HATE that Jalal ALWAYS BUT ALWAYS forgives Ruk no matter how badly she behaves. Ruk is the most pampered person not just in JA but of CVs too! 🤢
Maddy this is a very very interesting prediction. Hats off!👏👏👏👏👏

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Posted: 10 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: rasha1500

I want to see Jalal hits and tortures by Sharif ,but I do not want never see jodha save him again, I'm bored of this stupid scenario

Historically I am told Jodha does save Jalal three times.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Hi Mansi, very poignant questions .
Jodha shouldn't have lied about something as crucial and sensitive as babies, which didn't exist . She could have feigned that Javeda also has left food and water hearing MA's state. She could've built up on this lie
Imagine, if MA did recovered and then found out to be a lie, she'll immediately collapse and die, Javeda's pregnancy is that life for her. Jodha herself knows that not much time is there for Maham, any which way.
If MA dies without knowing the truth, will her soul rest in peace ? No.
I for one wants MA to know the truth before her death, she should then be grateful to Jodha, that to save her life , Jodha let go of her goodwill in God's eyes...this is no mean feat.
Regarding about the curse, its not something about believing it, its about HURT...and both Jalal and Jodha have been hurt, its also for the peace of MA, death is a great leveller , MA soul will not be in peace if she died with the curse and not nullified it.
The bottom line is Peace of the dying soul, which is for now utmost important, which also lies in MA disclosing all her sins and asking for forgiveness from ALL. Believe me Jalal will forgive her in her deathbed, that doesn't mean he'll not be hurt, he'll be immensely hurt at the disclosure but that willbe for other time .

Rashmi: I don't think your wish of Ruqaiya pressing Jodha's feet will come true and personally I don't want it. Rukku is Rukku and Jodha is Jodha...she's that dignity within her, she won't do to lower herself.
If at all that scene is executed, should be when Jodha is sleeping and NOT when she's awake and aware.

You know my grandmother gave me two Sanskrit quotations - one says if someone is dying its okay to tell a lie and let them die in peace. Another says just the opposite, that we must never lie especially to someone who is dying. This is a very tricky issue.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#44
nice analysis
Epi was OK
I am again disappointed with Jalal for forgiving Ruq n I don't think he has a plan to catch ruq...this ruq can easily fool JaJo with her sweet words.
Maham's scene was good.But she doesn't deserves so much care n sympathy. They should show her death scene like the one shown in the movie with very less importance. I want her to die in the jail she doesn't deserve sympathy in public.
As u mentioned in ques no. 2 precap is really confusing.I think precap is BigBeard's dream...there is much more to happen before sharif reveals his true face to jalal.If its not dream then how will Jo save jalal???
I just want MA to die today itself so that there will be a progress in the story n the focuss will shift on Sharif n Ruq...I just can't tolerate both of them
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mansi episode was OK..I think JO lying might be good for the moment to make MA eat & give her hope to live for the sake of Javeeda son, but how many days will JO lie to MA, as she very well knows MA condition is just few days...

I think JO asked MA to take back the curse for the sake of Jalaal, even after Jalaal hearing MA condition didn't go to see her.. That curse stoped Jalaal MA patch up, even JO tried but still Jalaal is not forgiving MA for she curse his unborn kids... Even though the HURT is in JJ heart, but Jalaal hurt has pain & fear for his unborn kids...

The three some scene was good, I liked Jalaal saying the baby should have one Rajvanshi name & his names are better than Ruqu, also liked the way Jalaal is happy hearing JO saying kids name Hassan & Hussain, Ruqu is can't hear JO praising... It would be more tortoures for her to hear Jalaal praising JO...

I feel soon JO is the one going to get the intention of Ruqu somehow & will start feeling bad while Jalaal might also get Ruu intentions.. I am waiting to see Ruqu explosure will be before twin birth or after twin birth ?

Shariff somehow will flew away from the surang, later after MA death he might try to kill Jalaal meanwhile Bakshi child will die, which will make her to cry to Jalaal that Shariff never loved her & his lust on JO Begum...
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Posted: 10 years ago
#46
Hi,Mansi,


Good Analysis, & Perfect Questions.😆 😆.

Episode Was, Story Revloving, Many Factores, & ONE IS NOW MAHAM GOING TO NEAR DEATH.

Yesterday Episode, I liked again Jodha Transperent, Vision. She is Aware, Also Her Childs, But As A Queen She is Tackling Maham Point also. Or As A Wife, She is Cleared, Jalal is feeling Pain Cause of Maham Bad Duva;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

HB, Ruk, Even Jalal all are Worried about Maham Bad Bellesings, & They Trying to Sort Out

,Through Different methods. So Bad DUVA, Will Not Effect.

Here Previous Episode Jodha Cleared, She is not Worring About Maham Curse, But she is praying For Maham Peace.;;;;;;;;;;;

Acc to Jodha Peace is Which Method, Which Consoles Us, Gives Power to Think Right &wrong, Then Automatically We think, What we Did in Past or Doing in Future Wrong or Right.;;;;;;;;;;;;;If Maham will feel Peace,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Then she will think,How she Fooled Everone, & Did Wrong;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;This Will change & come some Human Qualites,
in Maham;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;or XYZ, Maham type Prisioners, This Change Jodha Wants. Khyber Also changed in Past.

Jodha vision of Clearity, Mostely, Amzing. She Knows situations difference. this time, She knows Difference of Badcursing, +Maham Illness.
She knows how to tackle this situation, & she tackled. Liked Jodha honestely shared it Jalal,
I am not fearing, Bad blessings of Maham. I am praying for her Peace;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Its, Great thought;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Here Couple Understaning Great;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Jalal leaved, I not stop you,


She (JODHA )is using, Accurate Method (ZAVEDA ) Which will Work 100% sure This way, Maham Can Eat food. She got Hint From Reshum, & She tackled Situation, Kindfully,+She Understand, Situation Demand, Also As A Queen or As A GOOD HUMAN Being, Liked She said;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Maham what did Wrong,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But This situation How Can i Leave Humanity.


Agree, Queen duti is not Easy. Sometimes Acc to situation, decesion needed. Maham or XYZ, if getting Punishment;;;;;;;;;;;She has no problem. Problem is this, Prisioner is Leaving food, +not taking treatement;;;;;;;;;;;;;Or Going to Lack of Will Power near Death.If we see today in 21 cen;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Docotrs provids, to Prisioners;;;;;;;;;;;;;Doctores, treat prisioners.
Even Mazor criminal or Others cases, Physchologists Needed. Doctores not says they did Major crime we will not treat these patients.

Same Jodha Doing. Queen duty is to Blance+Proper decesion making also. Humanity is a Big factor;;;;; Tough situations she is blancing this Quality;;;;;;;;;;;Suerly she is appriciable.⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️


But Maham is Not changing, She has no Guilt, What she did in Past Wrong

She is Happy for Zaveda, not For Jodha,I recalled a Story;

A, Sadhu is Bathing in River, & Bichoou, Cut His Hands, & Fall Down In River,Sadhu, Picked,

Otherwise He (Bichoou, Will be Drowned. ) He again Cut, Bleeding start in Sadu Hand, But He not Leaved his Kind Nature, Atleast, Someone Asked, Why Are you Doing Again Again
Sadhu Ans'ed;;;;;;;;;;;;;;If Bichoou, is Not Leaving His Nature, How Can I leave. So Its depends On individual Nature.


Sharrif +his Father Plooting Has been started.

Is Jalal is Aware, ?

Is, MS Knows About Surrung,?& He told Jalal, Already.

Because Sharrif, Not Happy, for Girl Child, or, She is sufferening for Duff Illness, So Is sharrif is watching by Jalal, ?

is Sharrif is responsibile for Daughter, Illness ?

Acc To history Sharrif Will Ran Away, But Bakshi, Where Stands, ;;;;;;;;;;;;I think, this time With Sharrif.Because If Sharrif Intensions Comes This Time, About Jodha, Naturally, Jalal will blasted, Extreem;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;But if Jodha is Saving Jalal, So Attack Will Sure Happen
But Seeing Point is This;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Sharrif, Truth reveals Yes Or Not.lll


CV everytime Spoiles Akdha Secene, With Ruk,😡 Secene & Kids Name were Beautiful,So Jodha is Adopting Mughal Culture, & She decided Names of, Childs, acc to Their Culture.

Point is This;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;How A Ragvanci, Adopting Relgion of Mughal, or Jalal is Learning,
Hindu Cluture;;;;;;;;;;;So Which is Gettings Kids, Thats Good, But Society is also Binding With Two Strong Relgions in !6 cen. So When Two relgions Spreads, Naturally, Broadness +Conservative People Both Comes. But As A King Akdha tackled this Situation Gracefully
so its a Good Point.


But Ques, Speaking Lie, i think, Jodha Moto is Only If Maham Will die, Cause of Hunger +Lackof will Power, Thats Not Right, But If she Will die, Natural, Then She Has No Problem.
Because She said Previous;;;;;;;;;;;;;She Can, not Do this Case, Nothing. But Reshum, Pressurise Her,
Edited by ayushimehra - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: skanda12

Take my advice ... next week you take leave and dump everything on the boss!😆😆😆😆😆

No yaar, he had gone to his home town almost after 7 years and got caught in the flood and had to stay on roof top for more than 5 days since 7th to 1tth. Only on 11th late evening he was rescued. But it may take few more days for him to get back to Bangalore. So need to accept the burden with goodwill and help him out. Poor chap has drained out after watching floating dead bodies, and fearing what may befall on him.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: ridhiAkdhafan

nice analysis
Epi was OK
I am again disappointed with Jalal for forgiving Ruq n I don't think he has a plan to catch ruq...this ruq can easily fool JaJo with her sweet words.
Maham's scene was good.But she doesn't deserves so much care n sympathy. They should show her death scene like the one shown in the movie with very less importance. I want her to die in the jail she doesn't deserve sympathy in public.
As u mentioned in ques no. 2 precap is really confusing.I think precap is BigBeard's dream...there is much more to happen before sharif reveals his true face to jalal.If its not dream then how will Jo save jalal???
I just want MA to die today itself so that there will be a progress in the story n the focuss will shift on Sharif n Ruq...I just can't tolerate both of them

I don't think jalal has forgiven Ruq ... it looks to me like the calm before a storm! Hmm... this precap does look like a possible dream doesn't it? Otherwise why would Jalal himself be in a surang? Very puzzling!
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Posted: 10 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: abhi786

Mansi episode was OK..I think JO lying might be good for the moment to make MA eat & give her hope to live for the sake of Javeeda son, but how many days will JO lie to MA, as she very well knows MA condition is just few days...

I think JO asked MA to take back the curse for the sake of Jalaal, even after Jalaal hearing MA condition didn't go to see her.. That curse stoped Jalaal MA patch up, even JO tried but still Jalaal is not forgiving MA for she curse his unborn kids... Even though the HURT is in JJ heart, but Jalaal hurt has pain & fear for his unborn kids...

The three some scene was good, I liked Jalaal saying the baby should have one Rajvanshi name & his names are better than Ruqu, also liked the way Jalaal is happy hearing JO saying kids name Hassan & Hussain, Ruqu is can't hear JO praising... It would be more tortoures for her to hear Jalaal praising JO...

I feel soon JO is the one going to get the intention of Ruqu somehow & will start feeling bad while Jalaal might also get Ruu intentions.. I am waiting to see Ruqu explosure will be before twin birth or after twin birth ?

Shariff somehow will flew away from the surang, later after MA death he might try to kill Jalaal meanwhile Bakshi child will die, which will make her to cry to Jalaal that Shariff never loved her & his lust on JO Begum...

I think Abhi, our confusion would be a lot less if we knew what was going to happen first, then second, then third. Right now everything looks almost ready for happening ... one side Bakshi's baby issue, another side Sharif and BigBeard, and the thid side this Ruq issue and the fouth side this maham death ... if we had an accurate idea of what comes after what it would be easier top see the causes and effects of people's actions.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Take my advice ... next week you take leave and dump everything on the boss!😆




Jaya always does this 😕 She writes amazing posts and then next week she is gayab!

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