Ruq plans to demand Jodha's baby by right - using her 'wish' - Page 8

Hey Mansi.. Lovely take once again Maddy's point made me to think entire night..wat cud be the reason behind rukku asking for a second child..then started recollecting everything ..something striked me .. I am not giving analysis on yesterdays episode..coz no one can give analysis better than u and other good writers like Jaya Radhika maddy sindhu..

Rukku:

I started thinking whole night whr we went wrong.. wat is the motive behind Rukku..then started thinking about previous tracks and was searching for a hint.. whr in every track they had given the track in the beginning itself ... so is track main kya problem hai ..maazra kya hai... we all knew that rukku is going to this extreme not for a kid..but for muz audha..but y she asked second child.. and told let the first child be with jodha only..i want the second child.. then something striked me..all this started during atga track... Rukku's MUZ track started wen all begums started praising jo and wen made Jalal to come out atga's death greif and to concentrate on sultanat...Rukkus dream sequence Jalal and jo with thr twin kids and rukku sidelined..then she woke up and looked at the chess board..she thought wen on chess board thr can be two queens then y cant be two queens.. and gave evil smile..we all were thinking is she mad..thr il be only one muz..in chess board we can see two kings two queens two ministers.. in the same way in mughal sultanat y cant be two rulers ..who can rule the sultanat..coz both twins il take birth on the same day just a min difference.. when thr can be two heirs y cant be two muz..she smartly asked the second child... if she goes and ask for a first child then everyone il get to no her greed for power and muz title.. but now she smartly handled Jalal and had not given any clue..she said I am fine even if u give second child.. her plan must be first to get a child legally as her own then she il claim my kid is too is a waaris ..he too born on d same day..he too is the heir of this sultanat.. and I think her plan is first let me get one kid ...after that she il say wen on chess board thr can be two kings and queens then y cant two heirs..my kid too was born on the same day.. he too is a heir .. then if two kids can be heirs of sultanat then thr mothers il be muz..in tat case rukku too il be called as muz.. I think this is wat is her plan... she thinks she can fool everyone and give maat and take MUZ title ...

Jalal:right now he is confused..he for a second was so moved by rukku's nautanki..and at the same time he refused rukku that he cant separate his kids..he even told her take my life if u want but not to separate my kids... but Jalal never thought rukku il drag this issue to dek and he il be checkmated by his dearest friend Rukku in dek showing legal farmaan..through this he il learn not grant wishes to any tom dick harry.. I think cv's planned this rukku twin sharing before kids birth to make jalal realize rukku's intentions to know before his kids birth and to come up with plan b... or he can do this also.. rukku wont be able to hide her intentions from Jalal and everyone..wen she gets her wish is granted and she il get a kid then automatically she herself may blurt out or il do something and gets caught..but this dek issue il make jalal that thr is some hidden agenda of rukku... he il try to find out her motive..once he gets to no her motive he may come up with teda plan and checkmate her... in a rage she with the help of resham il try to poison jo and thus leads to kids death..if not rukku's kid il die due to her carelessness thus it leads to another kids death.. but since rukku's dragged this issue in dek the ending il be rukku il left with no bek title nor harem...her life il be worst than a begum..jalal atleast speaks to other begums..but now she il loose everything..or jalal & salima il plan and use her wish against rukku and gets back the kid ..in that way she not onlu lost muz title but also jalal too..in a rage she il try to kill jo so that she il get kids jalal and audha too...

Here Jo and jalal il be the victims.. I think right now rukku's intention is to become MUZ ...not to kill jo..wen she il be left with no options and wen maham or someone instigates her only then she can go that exteme..right now rukku is using her own brain ..so she has no back up plan.. so unless and until that thr is no other go but to kill jo only then she il kill jo.. she il kill jo instead of killing jo's kid..killing jo's kid she il get only muz title..if she kills jo she il get kilds muz title and jalal too.. she il get back everything she lost..

Jalal :wen he can punish someone who tried to play with jo's character be it sharif or maham he punished them too the core.. wen he gets to no that rukku tried to kill jo or kids I don't think he il sit quiet..we all knew his anger..wen he got to no atga was killed by adham no dek nothing ..he killed him..he gave him painful death..here also he il be blinded in rage and he wont give rukku a chance to use her wish or to talk.. lets see how jalal il punish her..and how she il be caught..we il get to no about this track and its ending only by next week..only if jalal gets to no about rukku's motive we il be able to guess wat il be his plan and how he il checkmate rukku...

I am enjoying this track mansi.. now we il get to see rukku taking care of Jo and serving her atleast for babies sake.. and her nautanki...infact this we have predicted this twin sharing track long back ..and yes I was tensed yesterday wen I watched sbs seg..but then we hav predicted this track long back.. so I am prepared to see how jalal il use his teda method to checkmate rukku.. for sure jalal il punish her this time she dragged everyone to dek.. its an insult to jalal..she separated jalal's unborn kids.. the moment jalal finds out her motive he il give it back.. till now cv's never disappointed us..in every track akdha and thr love became more stronger.. end of this track rukku il be left all alone ... she il lose jalal her biggest strength,her husband ,her close friend and a shehensha.. jalal warned her long back..but still ye sudharne walo main se nahi.. yesterday's precap..she digged her own grave..bus dafnana baki...right now rukku has no plan b... just she il use her wish and gets one kid..but jalal may checkmate her..or her kid may die then she il not get muz title ..and then she il try to kill jo or her kid and gets caught..

Originally posted by: MaddyO

I reserved post on page 2 but posting here again. I had made this thread yesterday night. Mansi - please be prepared for LOT of venting!

Yesterday's episode and precap was really disappointing.

It was the kind of episode where leads are turned helpless and vamps and villains seem to be winning. So CVs favorite kind of episode!

I felt like cursing CVs for doing this to Jalal. They are going to do the same to Jodha tomorrow. 😡😡😡

How can Jalal even consider this? This is what he seemed to be thinking when he went to meet Jodha. Doesn't he remember his own childhood spent away from HB? Doesn't Jalal understand Ruk even a bit! How can he forget what Ruk can do after seeing her faking pregnancy?!

Jalal was NOT suspicious when Ruk came to him all dressed up like a Christmas tree?!!! With open hair and big fake tears? Why did she need to dress up if she was feeling SAD for herself not having a baby?

Of course seeing Ruk ask for her wish in DEK and Jalal so upset about it - Jodha is going to say yes to giving baby to Ruk. I WISH Jodha can say that it is her baby also and she does not want to give it to Ruk.

However, Jodha cannot stand by and see Jalal having to go back on his granted wish and get humiliated publicly. Ruk wants to take advantage of this fact and get the baby.

Here is what I would love for Jodha to do.

Jodha should ask Ruk if given word fulfilling wish is sacrosanct? Of course Ruk will say yes.

I want Jodha to say since Jalal has granted wish and he will never go back on his promise - just to honor HIS promise Jodha is willing to give the baby to Ruk.

Then Jodha should ask Ruk if Jalal fulfilled his wish and does Ruk agree to this. Ruk would say yes.

Then Jodha should ask Ruk if she remembers SHE had given a promise to Jodha - when Jodha had saved Jalal's life by drinking poison - Ruk had given her a promise that except Jalal, Jodha can ask for anything once and Ruk will fulfill it.

Jodha should tell Ruk for the wish Ruk has given Jodha - Jodha is asking for her baby back.

So Jalal will have fulfilled HIS wish granted to Ruk but Jodha and Jalal will not have to give their baby to Ruk.

I do not want to see Ruk winning. I do not want to see Jalal and Jodha made helpless and get taken in by this emotional blackmail.

I have no hopes from these CVs! What we most probably will get to see is Jodha will say yes just cos she does not want Jalal to lose face. Ruk will get what she wants and she will gloat and smirk and plot to harm Jodha's baby. So her baby becomes waris and she becomes MUZ.

Dread CVS will get Ruk hang around Jodha and Jalal all the time in pregnancy not giving them alone time - how we faced after SR episode.
Cos JA CVs enjoy watching vamps and villains win for 25 episodes and spare 1 episode for leads winning!

Brace for 18-20 of mins of screen time for Ruk all over the place and hanging around Jodha. She will do utmost to not give alone time to JodhaJalal again "in her NOW SUDDEN desire of taking care of pregnant Jodha" 😡😡😡

If they show Ruk win, get baby and spoil whatever is remaining of Jodha's pathetic uncared for pregnancy - I hope they get such a massive kick of TRPs.

Let us see if they have learnt the lesson of Ruk fake pregnancy track?!
I don't have much confidence!

MA's so called downfall whatever the CVs showed so far IS BIG FAT DISAPPOINTING and I am SURE Ruk's bhandafod is going to leave us all feeling HUGELY DISAPPOINTED AS WELL. CVs will somehow make her the focus and poor Ruk again!

Originally posted by: vinitaj27

Mansi nice analysis as always and some good theories too. I dont mind which way it plays out as long as ruqqaiya doesnt get the kids even for a single day. Although i personally feel that ruqqaiya may not try killing jo or the kids coz if she does that then in no way would jalal spare her. He would kill her on the spot for harming his kids n jo would not be able to stop him. Not even her next wish would be able to save her. So i think it could be smthg as simple as jo n jalal thinking ruqqaiya is craving for a kid n then they hear her talking to hoshiyar or someone else that she doesnt care abt the kid but the MUZ audha only n it may bring the truth in front of jalal. I m saying so coz remember she said y cant there b two MUZ. That means she has no plans to remove jodha from the post but only to add herself to it.

Good take , Mansi... after our sms chat last night, and after watching episode (after reading ur WU), i feel , Jo ll initially refuse to give her child in DEK, saying her baby is not some sort of a thingwhich can be traded as per wish and sign of any shehenshah...and still if other ppl like maulavis and minister go against it saying Shehenshah is supreme, and if he has given his word in writing then he has to give the baby as he is also a father to kid... and if this happens, then Salima will surely use her wish to prevent Ruku from succeeding...

and later back at palace , Jo herself will offer her one child to Ruku saying as a woman and a mother, she understands Ruku's heart... (not really Jo)... and so the entire matter will be solved and Ruku will be superhappy and start taking care of Jo and her babies...

i just wish they show, that Jo puts her condition that Ruku will get the baby only after one year or so, when he will be grown up in real proper care of it's own mother... (and we all know , kids wont live for that much time)... and Ruku will have no choice but to accept the condition, as she can't deny a kid it's right to the milk of it's mother...

so anyway, let's be sure, it will be Jo, who ll agree to Ruku's wish... how, we have to see... only, this act of her will make Jalal go more crazy and caring for this wife of his... just think there will be competition btw Jalal and Ruku , abt who ll care more for Jo... and both of them will start pampering Jo all the time... OMG... my poor Jo will surely try to find some new ways to run away from this madness😉

anyway, the thing i m confused over, is abt Jo and MA's changing relationship... like i said yest, i think CVs r planning to show Jo winning MA's heart... and if this happens, then it will be MA who ll expose Ruku in front of Jalal ... may be MA will die consuming the poison Ruku has planted for Jo after delivery, and thus she will be able to save Jo and expose Ruku... all i m now interested to see is how CVs r planning to connect all these threads together... Jo-Ruku-MA... poor Jalal... totally sidetracked in this...

anyway... blooper time... Jo was wearing that pink dress when she told Jalal that Abhimanyu story right... and yest episode was showing next day... so why Jo was still in previous night's dress? why CVs can't maintain proper continuity in such small things of leads at least???

and all in all both leads were looking too much bored throughout the episode??? like both were not interested in those scenes (including Jalal's fake kiss on Jo's forehead)... why?? have they lost interest, or r they tired due to long working hours??

Amazing alnysis fr an oK episode...hate rukiye...
Don't want jodha to hv 1 baby...I saw 1 pic of rukiye yesterday in the yellow dress she is wearing with open hairs looked like a witch..frm that I pic I believe that jodha might be in shock n jalal angry twih rukiye n jodha might faint cz of shock bt once she is ok thn she might agree to give the baby to rukiye.. nothing much wud happen in DEK...ruk doesn't care fr anybody be it shehenshah...
People were blaming n.badmouthing jodha on the forum when she asked jalal to pardon khyber bt I believe wt rukiye is doing is worst cz jalal already in privacy said no...

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

Hi, Mansi, Good analysis, & Many predictions.😆 😆,

I am just cpoy pasting, which i wrote Maddi, about episode, after sometime will write.

Hi, Maddi,

I can see your Upset ness,

But My point is differ, I know this track is for Ruk Downfall. But Ruk downfall happen or not, this time, because we know, She will be forgiven after some time.

Ques is not Jalal gave Vachan To Ruk, Ques is here Child safty. Is Ruk is responsibile person for child.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i think NO.

Adopting is not a Bad thing. But Way which she is choosing, Totally Wrong.

We know Child will die, But Jalal jodha Ruk not knows.;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So if a child dies for carelessness of Ruk;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;This point very troubling Me. so who is responisibile

Is Everyone have Power, to Create child, or Alive child again. if Not, you not Rights to Take Wrong decesions

Because Twins, survive, together, If we today sees, Twins, Behaviour, One is ill second is ill.

So child, given to which person;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;That responsibilty very countable.

you can't leave child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;Unresponsibile Hands.

so this delicate decesion should be taken very carefully,

Lets see. As A mother jodha should also aware this Point. Goodness or Awareness Two are different things;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;or you can't Risk, God gifted Precious creations,;;;; specially; Child in this way.

Childs are not experiment things. They need a lot of Love & Care. Even in 21 cen Child adopting is not easy thing.

So CV should be careful today., Handle this delicate matter delicatel

Originally posted by: arzoofive

well Mansi...i like all theories u, diksha,maddy n others made in this thread...

frankly speaking i m not worried abt separation track of d twins ...let Ruq plan anything ...we all know, at in d end she is going to fall flat on her face...let jodha give her baby for jalal sake in DEK...but therer is lot of time bewtn DEK SCENE n actual handover d babyy scene,...so many things will happen inbetwn...

i think we should enjoy this track...becoz watever happens it will bring jodha -jalal bond stronger...ofcouse jodha will feel bad n jalal too feel bad ...so we just hav to wait n watch...

d only thing worries me is shariff...n maham...they r still haunting me...why jodha is not able to understand shariff's intention...wat is d need of jodha to go to maham...therer r so many people in tat agra mad palace...why jodha only??? how many days we hav to see shariff lusting...n jodha being dumb???

i can tolerate Ruq for sometime but not shariff...he is getting on my nerves now...before Ruq i want shariff being exposed...

Originally posted by: Gem12

Hey Mansi.. Lovely take once again Maddy's point made me to think entire night..wat cud be the reason behind rukku asking for a second child..then started recollecting everything ..something striked me .. I am not giving analysis on yesterdays episode..coz no one can give analysis better than u and other good writers like Jaya Radhika maddy sindhu..

Rukku:

I started thinking whole night whr we went wrong.. wat is the motive behind Rukku..then started thinking about previous tracks and was searching for a hint.. whr in every track they had given the track in the beginning itself ... so is track main kya problem hai ..maazra kya hai... we all knew that rukku is going to this extreme not for a kid..but for muz audha..but y she asked second child.. and told let the first child be with jodha only..i want the second child.. then something striked me..all this started during atga track... Rukku's MUZ track started wen all begums started praising jo and wen made Jalal to come out atga's death greif and to concentrate on sultanat...Rukkus dream sequence Jalal and jo with thr twin kids and rukku sidelined..then she woke up and looked at the chess board..she thought wen on chess board thr can be two queens then y cant be two queens.. and gave evil smile..we all were thinking is she mad..thr il be only one muz..in chess board we can see two kings two queens two ministers.. in the same way in mughal sultanat y cant be two rulers ..who can rule the sultanat..coz both twins il take birth on the same day just a min difference.. when thr can be two heirs y cant be two muz..she smartly asked the second child... if she goes and ask for a first child then everyone il get to no her greed for power and muz title.. but now she smartly handled Jalal and had not given any clue..she said I am fine even if u give second child.. her plan must be first to get a child legally as her own then she il claim my kid is too is a waaris ..he too born on d same day..he too is the heir of this sultanat.. and I think her plan is first let me get one kid ...after that she il say wen on chess board thr can be two kings and queens then y cant two heirs..my kid too was born on the same day.. he too is a heir .. then if two kids can be heirs of sultanat then thr mothers il be muz..in tat case rukku too il be called as muz.. I think this is wat is her plan... she thinks she can fool everyone and give maat and take MUZ title ...

Jalal:right now he is confused..he for a second was so moved by rukku's nautanki..and at the same time he refused rukku that he cant separate his kids..he even told her take my life if u want but not to separate my kids... but Jalal never thought rukku il drag this issue to dek and he il be checkmated by his dearest friend Rukku in dek showing legal farmaan..through this he il learn not grant wishes to any tom dick harry.. I think cv's planned this rukku twin sharing before kids birth to make jalal realize rukku's intentions to know before his kids birth and to come up with plan b... or he can do this also.. rukku wont be able to hide her intentions from Jalal and everyone..wen she gets her wish is granted and she il get a kid then automatically she herself may blurt out or il do something and gets caught..but this dek issue il make jalal that thr is some hidden agenda of rukku... he il try to find out her motive..once he gets to no her motive he may come up with teda plan and checkmate her... in a rage she with the help of resham il try to poison jo and thus leads to kids death..if not rukku's kid il die due to her carelessness thus it leads to another kids death.. but since rukku's dragged this issue in dek the ending il be rukku il left with no bek title nor harem...her life il be worst than a begum..jalal atleast speaks to other begums..but now she il loose everything..or jalal & salima il plan and use her wish against rukku and gets back the kid ..in that way she not onlu lost muz title but also jalal too..in a rage she il try to kill jo so that she il get kids jalal and audha too...

Here Jo and jalal il be the victims.. I think right now rukku's intention is to become MUZ ...not to kill jo..wen she il be left with no options and wen maham or someone instigates her only then she can go that exteme..right now rukku is using her own brain ..so she has no back up plan.. so unless and until that thr is no other go but to kill jo only then she il kill jo.. she il kill jo instead of killing jo's kid..killing jo's kid she il get only muz title..if she kills jo she il get kilds muz title and jalal too.. she il get back everything she lost..

Jalal :wen he can punish someone who tried to play with jo's character be it sharif or maham he punished them too the core.. wen he gets to no that rukku tried to kill jo or kids I don't think he il sit quiet..we all knew his anger..wen he got to no atga was killed by adham no dek nothing ..he killed him..he gave him painful death..here also he il be blinded in rage and he wont give rukku a chance to use her wish or to talk.. lets see how jalal il punish her..and how she il be caught..we il get to no about this track and its ending only by next week..only if jalal gets to no about rukku's motive we il be able to guess wat il be his plan and how he il checkmate rukku...

I am enjoying this track mansi.. now we il get to see rukku taking care of Jo and serving her atleast for babies sake.. and her nautanki...infact this we have predicted this twin sharing track long back ..and yes I was tensed yesterday wen I watched sbs seg..but then we hav predicted this track long back.. so I am prepared to see how jalal il use his teda method to checkmate rukku.. for sure jalal il punish her this time she dragged everyone to dek.. its an insult to jalal..she separated jalal's unborn kids.. the moment jalal finds out her motive he il give it back.. till now cv's never disappointed us..in every track akdha and thr love became more stronger.. end of this track rukku il be left all alone ... she il lose jalal her biggest strength,her husband ,her close friend and a shehensha.. jalal warned her long back..but still ye sudharne walo main se nahi.. yesterday's precap..she digged her own grave..bus dafnana baki...right now rukku has no plan b... just she il use her wish and gets one kid..but jalal may checkmate her..or her kid may die then she il not get muz title ..and then she il try to kill jo or her kid and gets caught..

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Good take , Mansi... after our sms chat last night, and after watching episode (after reading ur WU), i feel , Jo ll initially refuse to give her child in DEK, saying her baby is not some sort of a thingwhich can be traded as per wish and sign of any shehenshah...and still if other ppl like maulavis and minister go against it saying Shehenshah is supreme, and if he has given his word in writing then he has to give the baby as he is also a father to kid... and if this happens, then Salima will surely use her wish to prevent Ruku from succeeding...

and later back at palace , Jo herself will offer her one child to Ruku saying as a woman and a mother, she understands Ruku's heart... (not really Jo)... and so the entire matter will be solved and Ruku will be superhappy and start taking care of Jo and her babies...

i just wish they show, that Jo puts her condition that Ruku will get the baby only after one year or so, when he will be grown up in real proper care of it's own mother... (and we all know , kids wont live for that much time)... and Ruku will have no choice but to accept the condition, as she can't deny a kid it's right to the milk of it's mother...

so anyway, let's be sure, it will be Jo, who ll agree to Ruku's wish... how, we have to see... only, this act of her will make Jalal go more crazy and caring for this wife of his... just think there will be competition btw Jalal and Ruku , abt who ll care more for Jo... and both of them will start pampering Jo all the time... OMG... my poor Jo will surely try to find some new ways to run away from this madness😉

anyway, the thing i m confused over, is abt Jo and MA's changing relationship... like i said yest, i think CVs r planning to show Jo winning MA's heart... and if this happens, then it will be MA who ll expose Ruku in front of Jalal ... may be MA will die consuming the poison Ruku has planted for Jo after delivery, and thus she will be able to save Jo and expose Ruku... all i m now interested to see is how CVs r planning to connect all these threads together... Jo-Ruku-MA... poor Jalal... totally sidetracked in this...

anyway... blooper time... Jo was wearing that pink dress when she told Jalal that Abhimanyu story right... and yest episode was showing next day... so why Jo was still in previous night's dress? why CVs can't maintain proper continuity in such small things of leads at least???

and all in all both leads were looking too much bored throughout the episode??? like both were not interested in those scenes (including Jalal's fake kiss on Jo's forehead)... why?? have they lost interest, or r they tired due to long working hours??