The music of emotions - Page 9

Originally posted by: harrybird

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Originally posted by: chitterati

You know ever since I started watching JA And especially during the initial phase I always envisioned rajat playing Heathcliff of Wuthering heights, my fav actor playing my fav character from my fav love story ... Just imagining rajat in that role gives me goosebumps...he will be absolutely brilliant in bringing out the dark passion of an wronged lover .

Originally posted by: chitterati

You know ever since I started watching JA And especially during the initial phase I always envisioned rajat playing Heathcliff of Wuthering heights, my fav actor playing my fav character from my fav love story ... Just imagining rajat in that role gives me goosebumps...he will be absolutely brilliant in bringing out the dark passion of an wronged lover .

Originally posted by: adianasr

Sree, Rajat has the unique ability to bring out various layers of characters, which if one sits to analyse, Lacan and Freud would just not suffice - and along with the tragic Shakespearean hero, there is this ability to perform characters like Petruchio and Captain Blunschli who have a satirical take on life - and Rajat brings his own interpretation to these characters - We have wished to see him do Othello, Shylock, Lear, Mark Anthony, Petruchio from Shakespeare - I would even want to see him do a take of Oberon - and my latest is to see him do a contemporary take on Professor Moriarity.

Yes Charu, he would do Heathcliff with one hand tied behind his back, but I would like to see him do a Sidney Carton, David Copperfield, Maximilian de Winter, for that matter even D'Atregnan !!!!!!

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Divya ,

Please tell me if I am wrong or I did not get it.

Thanks to Mishti's post ,which helped me in understanding this post of yours more.

Yes Rashmi .. you are definitely understanding the point well. And actually it is more how you feel ... then anything else.

I am using a film here.

Crescendo :- You said the high intensity in the emotions.For these intense emotions ,I remember this:-

Song:- " Tadap Tadap "

Film:- Hum dil de chuke sanam

Look at the intensity of emotions of Salman( I know he can't show that much because of his limited acting ability but still he tried ,you can assume it.The song will def help😃)

This song is particularly good for a crescendo ... because it starts low / soft in volume ... and then gets higher in volume and pitch over time ... that is the growing intensity ... as his pain is escalating from sadness, to anguish to desperation

He is angry and also dejected extremely when he is separated by Ash,Same with Ash ,remember the jhoola scene with her mom and that burning of dupatta.And the song was full of intensity.

JA :- This song came to my mind ,when after that hojra encounter with Jo about Suja ,Jalal goes Ruku style of breaking of furniture.He feels he is cheated .Weren't his emotions during that time like crescendo .

To me that was absolutely one of my favorite crescendos

Same when he came to know about Jo's innocence in Suja case and she has gone out of Agra.

Then the way he was crestfallen specially when Moti read her letter ,or near the lake when sujamal told him he was brother of Jo and how Jalal felt that he mistook Jodha .

To me, this would be he after he was in a crescendo of anger and frustration .. this de-escalated his anger (diminuendo) and then he transitioned to a state of legato- where you could feel his anger and guilt for a long time

Legato is less about the emotion (positive or not) but whether we feel one emotion and connect with the emotion for a long time

Staccato :- You said it is abrupt jumping of emotions .

The title song " Hum dil de chuke sanam"

Ash on one side is happy to be meeting Salman and other side she is equally disheartened to leave Ajay .She had two opposite emotions in her mind at that time.

This is not necessarily staccato as they were not abrupt move from one to another ... she was feeling both at the same time. I don't know if there was one in the movie.

JA :- darling could you put a similar scene from JA here.I still did not get one.😭It should be a bit similar to this song and whatever was shown in that song.

For me staccato, is when I characters abruptly shift without any clear reason why or sense of continuity

Example 1: Jodha after the tiger attack- she was feeling sorry about the incident, then he gets better and arranges Sukanya's wedding ... she storms in saying what is your plan, what are you up to ... abrupt shift of emotions that do not quite make sense

Example 2: Jalal in the Ben track ... one day he was using Ben, the other ready to kiss her, one day washing his hands ... I was like, what ? 😲😲😲

And today they are very staccato too ... which was why I am disconnected a bit.

Legato:- Aankhon ki gustakhiyaaan

Ash and Salman are in their new found love .So much to say but still no words for it and so eyes do the work

JA :- We saw this during the night,when he came to meet her in her hojra ,after her Vishpaan and later on that Angoori Baug scene.

Also in this category ,one more scene comes.She after moortikaand ,is sitting in Angoori Baug and he comes at he meets her .Then they discuss about moortikaand and he tells her that he was open to Hindu culture before her arrival and then accidentally his hand falls on her hand .He just slightly tries to play with her fingers with his ,where he tries to see if she is comfortable and she immediately draws her hands .Then in the end they are shly looking at each other in the moon light .

Uff Uff Ufff...,

Bingo ! You like legato the most ... and you relate to it the most!

Divs I used this hum dil ...example, because I thought the film and it's songs too had all this legato crescendo and staccato and then I tried to link it with Jodha Akbar.This attempt is a disaster,I think. But still need your inputs .

No- not a disaster at all - loved the examples and of course the movie songs from Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam

Originally posted by: blackvelvet

True...you feel that way because rajat is better at playing the dark brooding lover than at fluff...if you know what I mean...



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Originally posted by: adianasr

Sree, this is one of the most interesting aspect of Rajat's performance - and he has brought in the theatrical grandeur in his performance in such scenes - we have had discussions on Shyamala's threads on the characters that we would like to see him do on the stage and on the screen - from Shakespeare to Bernard Shaw to my current obsession to see him do Professor Moriarity 😎

Absolutely!

Originally posted by: blackvelvet

True...you feel that way because rajat is better at playing the dark brooding lover than at fluff...if you know what I mean...



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Originally posted by: adianasr

<font size="3">Sree, Rajat has the unique ability to bring out various layers of characters, which if one sits to analyse, Lacan and Freud would just not suffice - and along with the tragic Shakespearean hero, there is this ability to perform characters like Petruchio and Captain Blunschli who have a satirical take on life - and Rajat brings his own interpretation to these characters - We have wished to see him do Othello, Shylock, Lear, Mark Anthony, Petruchio from Shakespeare - I would even want to see him do a take of Oberon - and my latest is to see him do a contemporary take on Professor Moriarity.</font>

<font size="3">Yes Charu, he would do Heathcliff with one hand tied behind his back, but I would like to see him do a Sidney Carton, David Copperfield, Maximilian de Winter, for that matter even D'Atregnan !!!!!!</font>

Originally posted by: adianasr

Sree, Rajat has the unique ability to bring out various layers of characters, which if one sits to analyse, Lacan and Freud would just not suffice - and along with the tragic Shakespearean hero, there is this ability to perform characters like Petruchio and Captain Blunschli who have a satirical take on life - and Rajat brings his own interpretation to these characters - We have wished to see him do Othello, Shylock, Lear, Mark Anthony, Petruchio from Shakespeare - I would even want to see him do a take of Oberon - and my latest is to see him do a contemporary take on Professor Moriarity.

Yes Charu, he would do Heathcliff with one hand tied behind his back, but I would like to see him do a Sidney Carton, David Copperfield, Maximilian de Winter, for that matter even D'Atregnan !!!!!!