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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Yes you are right Pallavi.
Some of them not only criticize the female lead but the women in general.
That day comment was made that Women can threaten husbands of going to their parents place and blackmail husbands?
Husband's don't say to wives to leave their house and go if they are angry? I think this very own Jalal did this .Did he think he was asking her to go out in night? What would have happened to her if she had at that time fallen in hands of Shariff or any other man?



Rashmi i am Renu not pallavi😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: 111192



Rashmi i am Renu not pallavi😊

I am so sorry .so sorry.
I know that very well.
That was a typing mistake so sorry
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO




Piya - fantastic post 👏 Lines in bold BANG ON!

It is just boggling that PS gets blamed for everything but never given credit!!!
What is PS or RT fault if the dialogues make them ask aap yaha? Certainly the do not write the dialogues!

Paridhi was absolutely wonderful in Friday's episode. It had love, tenderness, affection, passion, connection and intimacy. Nobody could have counted the inches between them! 😉😆
So no praise but discussion were about how Jalal was again weak!

I ADORE Paridhi as Jodha and watch JA for HER. For me it is always JodhaAkbar NEVER Akbar the great.

TRPs are proof enough. Week before last they rose cos viewers finally got that horrible Atifa track closure where it was clear the Jalal ONLY loves Jodha.

Last week was fabulous episodes full historical background and Jalal centric only. I expected the TRPs to jump from week before! They did NOT! This shows viewers want to watch EPIC LOVE STORY of JodhaAkbar the HUMAN story that was promised to us.

If anybody expects to watch something else then I guess Ekta is not answerable cos day 1 SHE MADE IT CLEAR WHAT SHE IS MAKING - EPIC LOVE STORY HUMAN SIDE of JodhaAkbar.


Well said Piya . 😊

For those who are criticizing Pari : Please remind yourselves ------- Pari is playing the titular role of Jodha bai . The ONLY Rajput wife of Akbar who was instrumental in bringing out a complete positive change in his outlook towards major aspects in life . THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF THE EPIC LOVE STORY . SO NATURALLY SHE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF TALKING TO BRING ABOUT THE CHANGES . THE STORY IS NOT ONLY ABOUT AKBAR . I have noticed this unhealthy trend in the forum of always wanting a strong and 'teda' Jalal . A Jalal who is who should not cry , a Jalal who only thinks shrewdly , a Jalal who when he listens to his wife is termed spineless , weak and incapable of making independent decisions .

Doesn't marriage involve an equal partnership where there is a healthy exchange of views and ideas between both partners ?. So why is Jodha always considered as a giving a"bhashan" or as trying to be mahan when she is making a valid point ? Why is it okay for Jalal alone to be shrewd , smart and strong and not okay if Jodha is . Its funny that Bakshi is being criticized for being weak and not standing up for herself and her baby girl , yet Jodha is also being criticized for BEING FEARLESS AND STANDING UP FOR HERSELF .

Akbar was also a ruthless person before Jodha came into his life . The positive changes that she brought forth in him have to be dramatized with appropriate acting and dialogues depicting the particular message that she is trying to convey to Akbar . While doing so , she is mouthing the dialogues that the script writer has given her for that one scene , if it turns out to be a "bhashan" that is conveying an important message to another character in the scene , and also the viewers , it means that the story writer, the director and PARIDHI have done their job well .

Paridhi is doing what Jodha did 400 years back ( as per dramatization and the director's visualization ) extremely well . Her acting is subtle and not over the top . A trained classical dancer , she has put her skills to good use by portraying beautiful and appropriate facial expressions as per the scenes' need .
Ekta Kapoor is not a fool to have cast Paridhi Sharma as Jodha . She very well knew that her choice was the BEST . There is no doubt that Rajat Tokas is an actor par excellence , however Paridhi is equally good and the two of them together are magical .

Before we discuss in depth about gender bias from 400 years ago , let us stop to think about gender bias in the forum today , where the FEMALE LEAD ALONE IS HELD RESPONSIBLE for the story line not progressing as per the viewers wishes .

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Posted: 11 years ago
Thanks maddyo for liking the post. Well we can hope to see a firm jalal as you have said . All the shaitans must make an exit now ! . Maham is still in her cell ,mahac has already vanished . But why? . Maybe the CV's are afraid to give tasteless overdoses of these two villains as no 1 position needs to be maintained ! . In that case we should ask for all the good thing for the future episodes! . n how can cv's disappoint us ? . Is it not clear that due to a tedha n a shrewd jalal n a faithful lover ppl have again placed JA at the top! Coming to the serial 's trp race - Jodha n jalal are together as leads , they can easily beat every other serial in the trp race as both are strikingly good looking , their acting is top class, . In numerous ways Jodha n Jalal are perfect to carry the historical Drama at the highest pedestal. Coming to the episodes- Jodha n jalal will rock in the reel world also . In other words the lovely pair will beat all the remaining villains also in a shrewd way! . But what about ruks ? .she shall remain till the end ..here comes her turn to display the usual half baked plans ! . JJ have only emerged as soulmates so far n ruks will lose once again !
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek




Renu,

I have thought the same many times...While we can praise Akbar (I have ALWAYS praised him, Not only on India Forum, but at various other public forums also...) , it is something i find missing for Jodha here..!.. { Most of the times.} << This is my personal view. While i can see the greatness of Akbar or his magnanimous personality, i simply "CAN NOT" ignore Jodha..

Let me tell a surprising fact... :)
The story is different in other Forum...I was in MP Forum few days back, and there the members( they ALL are also equally educated and well learned in history, more than many of us ) , made a thread where they were ACTUALLY analyzing and PRAISING the ROLES of Empresses / Ladies in the lives of Emperors...!!!!!!!!

They were discussing the role of Maharani Ajabde in MP's life, and Jodha , etc. in Akbar's Life. I did not comment there, but i read the views on that Forum in that thread, and i was startled, when i contrasted the situation with ours. :( I wondered if i will get any such thread here. ;p

Few Days back i had made a comment, about how Jodha can be a "companion" for Akbar, on the same lines... :)



Aptly said by 11192 . Just wrote a post echoing similar views .

CHARU .
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Posted: 11 years ago

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You know friends, i am loving this aspect of the CV's... They are routinely invoking some spiritual and divine aspects from both the cultures...Last time it was a Shloka of Jodha and now an example of Salima Begum...And, after that Jodha gave one example from Ruqs' culture only about the Female Child(which i could not understand)... {{ NOTE THAT ALL THIS WAS SHOWN IN THE SERIAL BY THE CREATIVES OF JODHA AKBAR, HENCE I AM WRITING THIS.. }}


Jalal:: "Ek Sipahi apni Taaqat/Kamjori samne wale Sipahi ko kabhi nahi batata , aur aapne to wahi galati kar di Raja Sahab.."

OMG..!!!!...Kya Bolun Main..??...The scene where he acts in a subtle YET calm manner during the negotiations with the Rival King bore a Striking Similarity with Bruce Lee's composure in 'Enter the Dragon(1970's.?.)' , before that Last Fight in the Room of Mirrors...I don't know how many know about him or how many know the scene i am talking about in that movie...But, really Jalal's face resembled that LOOK in the scene...He knew that HE HAD won the BATTLE before FIGHTING it..The "Killing Calm Ferociousness" was evident on his face...

But i request CV's to be a bit "realistic" in their measurement when they give dialogues pertaining to number of soldiers and elephants concerned... ;p
Also, i request them , to show and give respectable (if not Equal) treatment to the BRAINS of Rival Kings also...

Abhay again good post, i always write, He is a Learner King, Now he is Becoming A BLANCE + GOOD, King.


, First, Jallad, Then Jalal, Next Akbar, But Why we called, Akbar The Great Akbar.

So first, Akbar is changing in to Akbar The Great. How, it showed yesterday Episode

A king who was Rude, only knows Fight & win over the world. Now thinks, War side effects.
war can only destroy., he thinks now.

He tried even MC+AM when tried to attack, he wants to choose Peaceful Method, But Failed.

but He again tried this method.

1, He respects, Rajvancies,it cleary shows, his Growing+Decent behivour, which will hep him
making of Akbar the Great.

2, Siphahi siphahi Hota hee, Raha sahib,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Now he knows, imp of Life, few days we saw, he is withboutdrawing, for King Post,;;;;;;;;;;;;;but Now he is behaving like a BLANCE KING,
which is necessary.


3, He clears about his vision, he wants, Everybody will live in peaceful way+united, way,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So its a Big Achievement. No body fear from me, everybody, live their place in Peaceful manner;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;So this poilcey Akbar adopted, & RULED OVER INDIA.
its a simple start now,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but we see Transperentely,;;;;;;;;;;;;Back bone is jodha;;;


4, He cleared his Power, in front of Rajvancies. so Now they should decide. What they want.

5, Scene was amajing, Jalal body Language, +Speaking Language. & Without Anxioty, he was talking,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;How much this Person is changing ?.,

6,Jalal realtionship is changing, between TM +MS clearly showed.

7, How much jalal is waiting, for Own kids,or How much imp, is his Neice for him, so as a King, +as a Human he too much changed;;;;;;;;;;;;;So things are changing, in Jalal's Life.

This scene was Jaan of the Episode.


Sharrif point.

Sharrif knows, BB speaked Lie, but his problem was that, His all dreams, going to be Fail.

He wants to kill jalal, if Boy borns, He will sit after sharrif throne, because Ruk words was,

a BOY can sit on Mughal empire.


HB, salima, all female Gang in BB hozara;

1 Liked jodha said to BB, she should say her Talk. Because BB stoped Jodha to tell anyone.

2, jodha told HB, or Salima, Bakhsi, is speaking Lie, because sharrif not want this, so as a Mother,, HB responsibity was Big;

a, She said, she should not speak, Lie in front of, Sharrif, Why she not realised or ask BB actual reason hiding this news.

b, Sharrif was speaking to much, front of HB, why HB not feeled doubt,Sharrif behaviour.

c, Why any women not think atonce, Which is the big reason speaking lie for BB.

d, Everyone was, saying BB, but too much faith on sharrif, not digest.

Acc to precap, jalal will took action, against sharrif.

He will recalled, BB, Face was why Red ? so hinting, Sharrif +jalal gap is coming, but seeing point is this;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;BB where stands.

Ruk +jodha +salima talks;


1, Talks were good.

2, liked jodha words, When you & me were borned;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Out parent should be sad
No;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;because daughters are also very Brave+important,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Where women respects,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Where live, DEVATS.👏 👏 👏 👏.

3, Salima gave ex,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Rajiya Sultana,;;;;;;;;;;;;;if we see,MC, HB, also in good posts.

4, But one was confusing;

a, Ruk words were, A Boy can sit on Mughal empire.

b, When jodha said, HB is own MUM, ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but Ruk ans was HB is not MUZ, MUZ will who, Who will birth, a Boy child,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;but jalal is a BoY child?

c, Is MUZ is bigger than MUM.?

Or new Tweet,😕.


Is Sharrif +Jalal Gap is hinting,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Sharrif attack, where Sujamal will save, Jalal.

so Reshem attack, +sharrif attack, +Jodha delivery on the floor

Very well written
Specially that Jalal is becoming a good balanced King.
Even me too confused between MUZ and Mariam Makani now
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



SHE MADE IT CLEAR WHAT SHE IS MAKING - EPIC LOVE STORY HUMAN SIDE of JodhaAkbar.

and that is why I started watching this show from episode 1.
I am a sucker for love stories, and if a show is offering me a real soul-mate love story, what best can I ask for?
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Posted: 11 years ago
@radhika:hats off u for ur garishnessly written up on bb's situation. Guilelessly, i have no a bit sympathy for BB. Its not for she loves her barbarous hubby intensively not for her inborn lack of confidence. Its reason for the sake of her love she is even ready to keep her infant in danger as she welly knows anytime this baby gal can b killed by her nuisance love. For her disgusting love she can b ready to devastate anyone's life easily. Perhaps my perception may b looked sadist here infact i have felt slight angry on JJ to see their hue n cry for bb hearing her reprimand b/c i think on the issue that nobody can help me properly if i never want another's help. If bb considers her hubby's torture as heavenly gifted thing n doesn't want his brutal hubby's change,punishment then let her to be tortured nobody can recuse her frm cruelty until she herself doesn't want.
Another matter this is why other royal ladies haven't stood for BB except Jodha? I personally think as this whole bb n gender discrimination have to b divulged by Jodha openly hence another lady's contribution hasn't been focused along with Jodha. It has been nice frm a side that all esteem wl b gone on Jodha but it has been totally bogus n nuisance to see harem ladies congenial perception abt SD.
Radhika, i waver to think why does bb yelping,mishaving with jodha continuosly after getting to know sd's lusty eyes on jodha? Is it b/c the fact she wants keep away sd frm jodha or not she solely blames on Jodha for sd's eying on Jodha? Plz if its possible then make a post on it.
I enjoyed sd's punishment but it wl b cheerful for me n i wl enjoy ample sd's puinshment when Jalal wl get to know sd's real intention towards jodha.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

I am so sorry .so sorry.
I know that very well.
That was a typing mistake so sorry



Rashmi no need to say sorry...waise i didn't knew i am so famous that you know my name😉😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nabiii

@radhika:hats off u for ur garishnessly written up on bb's situation. Guilelessly, i have no a bit sympathy for BB. Its not for she loves her barbarous hubby intensively not for her inborn lack of confidence. Its reason for the sake of her love she is even ready to keep her infant in danger as she welly knows anytime this baby gal can b killed by her nuisance love. For her disgusting love she can b ready to devastate anyone's life easily. Perhaps my perception may b looked sadist here infact i have felt slight angry on JJ to see their hue n cry for bb hearing her reprimand b/c i think on the issue that nobody can help me properly if i never want another's help. If bb considers her hubby's torture as heavenly gifted thing n doesn't want his brutal hubby's change,punishment then let her to be tortured nobody can recuse her frm cruelty until she herself doesn't want.
Another matter this is why other royal ladies haven't stood for BB except Jodha? I personally think as this whole bb n gender discrimination have to b divulged by Jodha openly hence another lady's contribution hasn't been focused along with Jodha. It has been nice frm a side that all esteem wl b gone on Jodha but it has been totally bogus n nuisance to see harem ladies congenial perception abt SD.
Radhika, i waver to think why does bb yelping,mishaving with jodha continuosly after getting to know sd's lusty eyes on jodha? Is it b/c the fact she wants keep away sd frm jodha or not she solely blames on Jodha for sd's eying on Jodha? Plz if its possible then make a post on it.
I enjoyed sd's punishment but it wl b cheerful for me n i wl enjoy ample sd's puinshment when Jalal wl get to know sd's real intention towards jodha.



Dear nabiii

Just looked up for a min and read only ur post as its at the top of last page right now. :)

I fully understand and respect ur sentiments. Sometimes I feel the same. When I saw BB pleading with Jalal to stop the punishment, I was zapped. But there is always another side to the coin. I will post a response in detail Tmrw. :)


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