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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: 111192



Rashmi no need to say sorry...waise i didn't knew i am so famous that you know my name😉😆

I know your name very well.
Just it was a mistake
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0



Dear nabiii

Just looked up for a min and read only ur post as its at the top of last page right now. :)

I fully understand and respect ur sentiments. Sometimes I feel the same. When I saw BB pleading with Jalal to stop the punishment, I was zapped. But there is always another side to the coin. I will post a response in detail Tmrw. :)


Radhika / Nabii,
Just tell me that with Jodha taking this gender discrimination point and fighting for injustice towards BB's baby and BB herself,BB thinks Shariff will be miffed with Jo and forget all his lust.?Aisa lagta hain Kya BB ko?
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Posted: 11 years ago
@JAFanCharu
For those who are criticizing Pari : Please remind yourselves ------- Pari is playing the titular role of Jodha bai . The ONLY Rajput wife of Akbar who was instrumental in bringing out a complete positive change in his outlook towards major aspects in life . THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF THE EPIC LOVE STORY . SO NATURALLY SHE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF TALKING TO BRING ABOUT THE CHANGES . THE STORY IS NOT ONLY ABOUT AKBAR . I have noticed this unhealthy trend in the forum of always wanting a strong and 'teda' Jalal . A Jalal who is who should not cry , a Jalal who only thinks shrewdly , a Jalal who when he listens to his wife is termed spineless , weak and incapable of making independent decisions .
- Very well said.👏
I think apart from being an epic love story, what make the story of Jodha- Akbar unique is that it has certain 'coming of age' feel to it. And that appeals me tremendously. I am not a die-hard romantic person so if Jodha akbar was any other love story between a king and queen, I would not have shown interest in it. There is no dearth of passionate love stories on Tv today. I have never found them interesting enough.
Here is one male protagonist who goes through a phase of transformation after the female protagonist comes into his life. She showers him with new ideas, help him to look at things differently- basically she becomes the motivation behind Jalal's transformation into the great Akbar. The tagline of the show very clearly indicated that. It was Jalal's journey from "Haivan to Inshan" (/ Janwar se Inshan , I don't remember correctly).So like any other such stories, here also the girl was shown as being almost perfect from beginning. What's wrong with that?
If u look at films like "Laksha" or say "Wake Up Sid" ( I mention these names as these are the coming of age films I can remember now) , the characters of romila dutta or aisha(the female leads) were shown like these only.. they were independent, had a mind of their own, righteous, fearless, everything a woman should be like. They were never shown being wrong.They were also shown giving so-called bhasans to their boyfriends very often in those films.😃 so what's wrong if Jo's character is sketched in the similar line?.What did we expect? How else she could have made Jalal INSHAAN from Haivan? If Jodha wasn't better, how could she change Jalal for the better? and if Jalal's character was flawless from the beginning what was the need for the transformation in the first place?
Jalal with all his flaws has always been a very charming character. When I say that he was flawed in the beginning, I do not say that I did not like him.His character is actually the backbone of the entire story. We all love him that is why we are part of his journey.
I am not saying that Jodha is perfect. No one is perfect as such, she has also done her share of mistakes and she also has her own journey to make . Because this a serial and not a movie and the makers have ample time to show everything they want in detail (I hope so)- they are obviously going to touch her journey too. But again that will be more subtle. So the whole argument over why she was not seen evolving, Why should jalal has to change himself every time for her, I have never seen her changing herself for him etc etc don't make sense to me.
Now the show has reached to a very important juncture where the transformation has already happened. Jalal is now very much an INSAAN,😃 infact he has already received the title Akbar too. They do not have anything to prove to each others. They characters are developed, so its the time for their journey together.

Edited by impiya - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@rashmi: if u ask to give ans abt bb frm me then i wl like to say that i don't know in which way i wl depict abt bb b/c the fact is i m not able to keep her in any category! She is more nuisance to me than Nigar. I apprehend that she thinks if Jodha wouldn't stay in harem then SD only loved her hence her real hatred is on Jodha for sd's luster behavior towards jodha. I may show pity on bb if the situation would b like she had no another option in this world except staying with sd. She has a bro who is mighty emperor can do anything for sake her,she has a supportive family that can stand for her at any time just her 1 signal despite these all if she wants to remain lethargic,wants to sustain her hubby's torture considering God's prashad then what can another do for her! Now if this issue is come that bb thinks living without hubby means to live like death then she should think without hubby r hb,jijianga,nigar living peacefully or not 24/7 times getting brutal behavior frm hubby is she happier than them!?!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: nabiii

@rashmi: if u ask to give ans abt bb frm me then i wl like to say that i don't know in which way i wl depict abt bb b/c the fact is i m not able to keep her in any category! She is more nuisance to me than Nigar. I apprehend that she thinks if Jodha wouldn't stay in harem then SD only loved her hence her real hatred is on Jodha for sd's luster behavior towards jodha. I may show pity on bb if the situation would b like she had no another option in this world except staying with sd. She has a bro who is mighty emperor can do anything for sake her,she has a supportive family that can stand for her at any time just her 1 signal despite these all if she wants to remain lethargic,wants to sustain her hubby's torture considering God's prashad then what can another do for her! Now if this issue is come that bb thinks living without hubby means to live like death then she should think without hubby r hb,jijianga,nigar living peacefully or not 24/7 times getting brutal behavior frm hubby is she happier than them!?!

Actually Nabii she blaming Jo for SD's lust is worst.She by the time should come to know about Jo and her character.
But Nabii you are right, now living with SD is actually death for her and her daughter too.
P.S :- From Monday ,this issue will be neglected I feel as the new one starts of baby sharing.
They just keeping hopping to one issue from another and keep the earlier hanging
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@rashmi: infact today the way sd's audacity has been increased behind it i wl give blame only on bb b/c the fact is sd thinks how much he would b barbarous on her,she wl every time forgive him n for the sake of her, jalal n jodha wl pardon him. For bb nothing is rest to understand abt jodha rather its her stubborness that she doesn't want to accept it her hubby is a janowaar.
Edited by nabiii - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
I fail to understand women like BB. There are definitely women in our so-called modern society who feel oppressed because they are perhaps dependent on the evil spouse.
But BB's brother is the Emperor for God's sake who loves her and supports her.
I guess there's not much you can do for spineless ppl like her but leave them to their own devices.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: impiya

@JAFanCharu
For those who are criticizing Pari : Please remind yourselves ------- Pari is playing the titular role of Jodha bai . The ONLY Rajput wife of Akbar who was instrumental in bringing out a complete positive change in his outlook towards major aspects in life . THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF THE EPIC LOVE STORY . SO NATURALLY SHE WILL BE DOING A LOT OF TALKING TO BRING ABOUT THE CHANGES . THE STORY IS NOT ONLY ABOUT AKBAR . I have noticed this unhealthy trend in the forum of always wanting a strong and 'teda' Jalal . A Jalal who is who should not cry , a Jalal who only thinks shrewdly , a Jalal who when he listens to his wife is termed spineless , weak and incapable of making independent decisions .
- Very well said.👏
I think apart from being an epic love story, what make the story of Jodha- Akbar unique is that it has certain 'coming of age' feel to it. And that appeals me tremendously. I am not a die-hard romantic person so if Jodha akbar was any other love story between a king and queen, I would not have shown interest in it. There is no dearth of passionate love stories on Tv today. I have never found them interesting enough.
Here is one male protagonist who goes through a phase of transformation after the female protagonist comes into his life. She showers him with new ideas, help him to look at things differently- basically she becomes the motivation behind Jalal's transformation into the great Akbar. The tagline of the show very clearly indicated that. It was Jalal's journey from "Haivan to Inshan" (/ Janwar se Inshan , I don't remember correctly).So like any other such stories, here also the girl was shown as being almost perfect from beginning. What's wrong with that?
If u look at films like "Laksha" or say "Wake Up Sid" ( I mention these names as these are the coming of age films I can remember now) , the characters of romila dutta or aisha(the female leads) were shown like these only.. they were independent, had a mind of their own, righteous, fearless, everything a woman should be like. They were never shown being wrong.They were also shown giving so-called bhasans to their boyfriends very often in those films.😃 so what's wrong if Jo's character is sketched in the similar line?.What did we expect? How else she could have made Jalal INSHAAN from Haivan? If Jodha wasn't better, how could she change Jalal for the better? and if Jalal's character was flawless from the beginning what was the need for the transformation in the first place?
Jalal with all his flaws has always been a very charming character. When I say that he was flawed in the beginning, I do not say that I did not like him.His character is actually the backbone of the entire story. We all love him that is why we are part of his journey.
I am not saying that Jodha is perfect. No one is perfect as such, she has also done her share of mistakes and she also has her own journey to make . Because this a serial and not a movie and the makers have ample time to show everything they want in detail (I hope so)- they are obviously going to touch her journey too. But again that will be more subtle. So the whole argument over why she was not seen evolving, Why should jalal has to change himself every time for her, I have never seen her changing herself for him etc etc don't make sense to me.
Now the show has reached to a very important juncture where the transformation has already happened. Jalal is now very much an INSAAN,😃 infact he has already received the title Akbar too. They do not have anything to prove to each others. They characters are developed, so its the time for their journey together.


Very well said Piya . Agree completely with your views .
As much as I love Jalal , I cannot overlook the fact that it was Jodha who enabled him to a great extent in becoming 'Akbar' . Why is it that people have a very hard time accepting a strong woman , whereas they willingly and easily accept a strong man ? In this case they are husband and wife . Their individual strengths should be shared by each other for a healthy relationship . This aspect of their relationship has also been shown well by the creatives . As the story progresses , we should get to see Jodha's involvement in Mughal politics , military too . I wonder how certain people who have a problem with Jodha / Paridhi are going to react .
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: neeshaa16



Yes Maddy, exactly.. thats the difference between Jo and Bakshi.. Bakshi instead of stopping her husband from wrong doing.. is defending his actions by keeping quiet and by forgiving him .time and again... Jo has always tried to stop Jalal whenever tries to behave irrationally.. ofcourse there is a bsic difference in jalal and SD also here..Jalal listens to his begums (atleast to Jo and Salima) and I think SD would have never bothered to listen to Bakshi ... he lacks the basic decency whatsoever... and now Bakshi will be more agianst Jo .. she will think Jo is the cause for all this ...



What a fantastic post Abhay . I wish all those people who criticize Jodha , read this post and UNDERSTAND what an equal partnership means , what the phrase "working together in a relationship" means . Your example of Napoleon 's respect and love for his wife and the manner in which he VALUED HER OPINIONS IS OUTSTANDING .
How can the show be only Akbar oriented ? He became Akbar only because of Jodha's positive influence . Until then he was only Jalaluddin Mohammad .
Regarding BB , she has a complex mind set . Cannot be easily analyzed . She is behaving exactly like the girl from Delhi . I am hoping that next week , she comes out of this emotionally abused state , and whips her "shauhar" herself . Showing her as being meek and docile to such intense abuse , is regressive . The Creatives should not make such a huge blunder .
Edited by JAfanCharu - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
@Radhika, @Abhay, impiya, JAFanCharu, MaddyO, Cleo, Rashmi, tamy, chitterati, neeshaa16, @all

Just came online to relax and went through each and every posts here.There's Nothing Like An Intellectual, balanced , positive, thought provoking Conversations. Loved everyone's post here and a big thanks to all of you. all of u were just awesome...

@Abhay - pls include me in all your PM's. I do make sure daily I do not miss any of your posts but still..

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