Birbal & JA Twins Entry, Ruq Downfall Sep 27 Updt Pg 60; DTNTPg15 - Page 26

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Hi Abhay and Radhika , superb arguments .😊

I agree with parts in red/brown . I loved your thoughts on Jodha .

Jodha symbolizes true nobility . Her attitude, grace , dignity , large heartedness in her interaction with Maham is totally praiseworthy . She could have opted for the 'eye to eye' method , however she chose not to . She knew that if she did so , her words and actions would plunge Maham into further darkness.

She is 'noble' not only by birth , but also by heart . This is why she has strength of character . Her thoughts , perception of matters , words and action are always honest , heartfelt and honorable .Her selflessness and compassion , are her strengths , she has no resentment towards anybody and hence forgives easily . These qualities define who she is .A true believer in karma , she practices it .We cannot forget her Gita gyaan to little Rahim , who in turn shares it with Jalal in front of the Tulsi plant . "Jaisa karoge , vaisa hi phal paaoge " .

The saying that " There is no revenge as complete as forgiveness " ( by Josh Billings ) suits Jodha's attitude towards and interaction with Mahamanga perfectly . This quality in her is what will soften Maham's feelings towards her, prior to her passing . ( as per media reports) . I felt that all the artists in that scene today performed very well . Mahamanga with her arrogance even while being weak and bedridden was awesome . So was Paridhi . She portrayed calmness, strength , compassion , restrained anger , grace , subtly and effectively . Javeda and Resham Khan in the background , were very good too .

Sharifuddin and his Abba jaan .'like father, like son '. If SD is responsible in harming the innocent newborn baby girl ( I sincerely hope not ) ... then all I can say is that , this kind of inhuman behavior does not allow him to be addressed as "abba". Look at the manner in which SD's abba managed to mislead the trusting Jalal . His actions are going to backfire and he will get a taste of his own medicine.

What do I say about the' impossible' Rukaiyya . Like you said Radhika , this thought has been nagging me since long , that both Jalal and Jodha may forgive her . Unless the Creatives show her as trying to kill Jodha and the babies , then the father and husband in Jalal will not spare her and he should not either . Lets wait and watch Rukkaiyya's next move ,and we will take our discussion further ...

Abhay, Charu,

Will revert soon with my views on Jodha's attitude towards Maham :)

Enjoyed comments made by both of you! :)

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Beautifully written Lasya . Loved your post .

Rukkaiyya's betrayal will definitely be very hard on Jalal . They grew up together , she is his cousin and first begum . For her to stoop so low , uncaring of his feelings by doing the unthinkable will cause him immense pain .

Its ironical that Rukkaiyya wanted position and power yet did not know how to conduct herself with the grace , humility and dignity accompanying that exalted position .

Her thirst for 'title' , 'position' and 'power' was more than her love for Jalal . This unhealthy thirst led to jealousy and insecurities that completely blinded her from seeing that in the process of wanting to hurt Jodha , she was hurting Jalal the most .

I am quoting my favorite Shakespeare here " A friend is one who knows you as you are ,understands where you have been ,accepts what you have become , and still gently allows you to grow " .

In spite of knowing him better than any of his other wives , Rukkaiyya did the exact opposite of what a good friend should do . Her betrayal will wound his mind . This wound will be more painful than physical wounds that he would have received during battles . However , he will emerge strong in the long run .

Originally posted by: chitterati

I don't think MA will witness twin deaths, she is already I a pretty frail condition and Jo hasn't event started showing yet, so I guess has an and Husain are a little off in the future, I do t think MA will survive for that long. Besides Jo JA are giving MA a heartfelt see off as per the SBS report, this wouldn't have been the case if twins had died before MA.

Regarding Ruk, me too suspect if there ever will be a showdown between her and Jalal, anyway her plan will come into action after the birth if twins so there is still time to that.

But going by the pace of the serial I guess a leap is imminent in future, and not. Like I will watching the show, but that Vishal guy, if he gets selected... God I can't see him romance on screen,it will wipe off all the sweet memories rajat has crafted !

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

You are both right about Maham's death before the kids are born. i just felt that way because they are dragging her track to the max extent possible.

Originally posted by: JAfanCharu

Hi Abhay and Radhika , superb arguments .😊

I agree with parts in red/brown . I loved your thoughts on Jodha .

Jodha symbolizes true nobility . Her attitude, grace , dignity , large heartedness in her interaction with Maham is totally praiseworthy . She could have opted for the 'eye to eye' method , however she chose not to . She knew that if she did so , her words and actions would plunge Maham into further darkness.

She is 'noble' not only by birth , but also by heart . This is why she has strength of character . Her thoughts , perception of matters , words and action are always honest , heartfelt and honorable .Her selflessness and compassion , are her strengths , she has no resentment towards anybody and hence forgives easily . These qualities define who she is . A true believer in karma , she practices it .We cannot forget her Gita gyaan to little Rahim , who in turn shares it with Jalal in front of the Tulsi plant . "Jaisa karoge , vaisa hi phal paaoge " .

The saying that " There is no revenge as complete as forgiveness " ( by Josh Billings ) suits Jodha's attitude towards and interaction with Mahamanga perfectly . This quality in her is what will soften Maham's feelings towards her, prior to her passing . ( as per media reports) . I felt that all the artists in that scene today performed very well . Mahamanga with her arrogance even while being weak and bedridden was awesome . So was Paridhi . She portrayed calmness, strength , compassion , restrained anger , grace , subtly and effectively . Javeda and Resham Khan in the background , were very good too .

Sharifuddin and his Abba jaan .'like father, like son '. If SD is responsible in harming the innocent newborn baby girl ( I sincerely hope not ) ... then all I can say is that , this kind of inhuman behavior does not allow him to be addressed as "abba". Look at the manner in which SD's abba managed to mislead the trusting Jalal . His actions are going to backfire and he will get a taste of his own medicine.

What do I say about the' impossible' Rukaiyya . Like you said Radhika , this thought has been nagging me since long , that both Jalal and Jodha may forgive her . Unless the Creatives show her as trying to kill Jodha and the babies , then the father and husband in Jalal will not spare her and he should not either . Lets wait and watch Rukkaiyya's next move ,and we will take our discussion further ...

Originally posted by: lasyap3

@red

Regarding leap, it would be a short one leading to the twins birth...

I seriously DO NOT want Salim Anarkali before the complete journey of Jodha Akbar is shown🥱

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Absolutely Brilliant Charu😃

Originally posted by: history_geek

Even i think the same...
As Till now, i am not able to understand the REASON behind the LOONNG Leap.?.
Koi ek reason to ho..😕

Originally posted by: lasyap3

Akka its Jeedi paakam 😆