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Posted: 11 years ago
Abhay, i have no words to say how wonderful this post is.
Many times when i watch the espiode, i would see see what is shown on screen. But there is so much attached behind it .. i got to know after joining teh forum and reading the posts.
I got addicted to form as i was seacrhing about Akbar, the great and it lead to one of your posts. I am very very thankful for all the informative posts.
Regarding the episode, I am spell bound. How devine thier relation is. No wonder its been talked about even after 400 years. How I wish I was there in that era.
Just loved the way, Jodha supports Jalal. I am with you no matter what.. she is a mother prtecting her baby.
And the contrast, how strong she was MA to say her curse can never be true.
But one thing, isnt it true that Jalal will not be happy with his kids. And Mughal empire did come down after 2-3 generations right.
Thought Jalal had kids, none really were upto his mark and made him proud and happy. sorry am not good at history just thinking loud as MA cursed the same. I dont want them to end the show with the message, the dynasty came to an end because of Maham.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Joja

Abhay, i have no words to say how wonderful this post is.

Many times when i watch the espiode, i would see see what is shown on screen. But there is so much attached behind it .. i got to know after joining teh forum and reading the posts.
I got addicted to form as i was seacrhing about Akbar, the great and it lead to one of your posts. I am very very thankful for all the informative posts.
Regarding the episode, I am spell bound. How devine thier relation is. No wonder its been talked about even after 400 years. How I wish I was there in that era.
Just loved the way, Jodha supports Jalal. I am with you no matter what.. she is a mother prtecting her baby.
And the contrast, how strong she was MA to say her curse can never be true.
But one thing, isnt it true that Jalal will not be happy with his kids. And Mughal empire did come down after 2-3 generations right.
Thought Jalal had kids, none really were upto his mark and made him proud and happy. sorry am not good at history just thinking loud as MA cursed the same. I dont want them to end the show with the message, the dynasty came to an end because of Maham.



dont give importance to this curse..its just to create hype and for trp's .. in real no curse was given by mahamange to jalal and his kids.. she just said he did a good job.. and went into depression... this show is about JA...we are being punished for our sins not for others..maham is no saint whr coz of her curse mugahal dynasty came to an end..mughal descendents are still in hyderabad.. its not ended..thr ruling power came to an end coz of britishers..not only them but all... this show is about JA and thr love story... maham said they il be left with no waaris..jodha challenged that she il give waaris...end she il give birth to waaris... so relax and enjoy the show... maham her self killed many jalal's unborn kids... god is not a fool to grant her dua...this curse is just to create hype and for trp's..take it lightly...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

I am too late..! Abhay..! 😳
I can't stop reading your post again and again..!! U can given that special IT reasoning too..! Take a bow for this interpretation and mindblowing analysis..!! 👏

In English, this means --

"Neither HE is born, nor does HE die at any time; HE has never been brought into being, nor shall come hereafter - unborn, eternal, permanent and primeval . When the body is slain, HE is not slain."

Here, "HE" refers to the SOUL...⭐️

Iam so sorry , I am running put of words..But this is really spellbinding to read your post..!! What a brilliant title..!! 👏👏

Looking forward your posts for upcoming episodes..too 😳





Hey Chocos,
Your posts on daily episodes are equally nice...Thanks buddy...!!.. 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AbHer_neha

@Radhika- I've just started reading ur posts & I must say you are a brilliant author. 👏



Agree with you Neha...When she starts Writing in her Flow, some of the best ideas emerge from her pen..!!!..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayushimehra

So Becoming of Afsana of Akdha is going to be ready, so Lets Witness of Their

soul-Mate story. Ameen.
CV please, Ameen this, because OUR HOPES ARE SO HIGH, so please not disappoint us.
Again Ameen.





Ayushi,

I have replied in BROWN color above...

For rest of the post the reply is here below..😊

The Major thrust of your Post is that the Saga of "Jodha Akbar" will go on forever , come what may...This reminds me a POEM i studied as a KID in one of my school textbooks...I do not know but somehow, reading you it came to my mind...

I am writing that Poem here, with special emphasis on the lines which i marked in Bold...This POEM describes the " Journey of Life ", as it keeps moving despite all obstacles coming in its path..

I am trying to Draw a Parallel of this with Jodha Akbar Story .!.


I thank you, for i have ONLY replied to 2 posts of yours till date, but i automatically came to remember many Old things from Past.!!.


Poem:

I come from haunts of coot and hern,
I make a sudden sally
And sparkle out among the fern,
To bicker down a valley.

By thirty hills I hurry down,
Or slip between the ridges,
By twenty thorpes, a little town,
And half a hundred bridges.

Till last by Philip's farm I flow
To join the brimming river,
For men may come and men may go,
But I go on for ever.

I chatter over stony ways,
In little sharps and trebles,
I bubble into eddying bays,
I babble on the pebbles.

With many a curve my banks I fret
By many a field and fallow,
And many a fairy foreland set
With willow-weed and mallow.

I chatter, chatter, as I flow
To join the brimming river,
For men may come and men may go,
But I go on for ever.

I wind about, and in and out,
With here a blossom sailing,
And here and there a lusty trout,
And here and there a grayling,

And here and there a foamy flake
Upon me, as I travel
With many a silvery waterbreak
Above the golden gravel,

And draw them all along, and flow
To join the brimming river
For men may come and men may go,
But I go on for ever.

I steal by lawns and grassy plots,
I slide by hazel covers;
I move the sweet forget-me-nots
That grow for happy lovers.

I slip, I slide, I gloom, I glance,
Among my skimming swallows;
I make the netted sunbeam dance
Against my sandy shallows.

I murmur under moon and stars
In brambly wildernesses;
I linger by my shingly bars;
I loiter round my cresses;

And out again I curve and flow
To join the brimming river,
For men may come and men may go,
But I go on for ever.




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Beautiful Post Ayushi..!!!.. 😊


Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: MaddyO



Abhay thanks again for the wonderful thread. Yet to catch up on all the posts.

Above red line in bold really intrigues me.

My knowledge is very scarce but isn't it said that after going thru "84 dash laksh births as different species" a being takes birth as a human being. After taking birth as human, the karma of this life the paap and punya of each birth decides how we take birth in the next life - still as human being. Again scratchy knowledge but Gita says that each birth is like the soul shedding its old clothes.

This cycle can go on till one attains "moksha" freedom from this cycle.
So in this context how can one say with surety that "one who is dead birth is certain". Isn't it depending on the karma whether we take rebirth or not?

Also what if a person is so full of sins that he does not deserve rebirth as a human being? What about heaven/swarg or hell/narak? If this cycle of rebirth is to go on how can being go to swarg or narak? Have you read any shloks about this?




Maddy,

Who says you know less.?. This is spectacular ... Awesome Summary...!!!!...
Yes, there is something auspicious about the number "84 Lacs" ... Though, i do not remember/know about this...

But you reminded me of something from Fatehpur Sikri..😉... BY this Number 84 Lakh...
As "84" is associated to Panch Mahal in Fatehpur Sikri...😉

See this post...And you will come to know, what i mean here..
I made a post many(4-5) months back, i remember it... Link:: 104129369


BTW, Yes there is a Shloka on this also...Just mentioning as you asked...Not going in Details.. 😊

vasamsi jernani yatha vihaya navani gr'hnathi naro parani |
thatha sarerani vihaya jernany-anyani samyathi navani de hi ||

Means::
As a man casts off tattered clothes and puts on new ones, in a similar manner the embodied soul casts off the worn-out body and enters other new ones."

KDR81 mentioned this point in her Post..!!!.. 😊


Anyways, in a way it is nice that the Creatives are giving Dialogues to Jodha from The Gita, as she reads it a Lot..!!...😉

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Posted: 11 years ago
Awesome post abhay👏...
Jodha jalal ..safar abhi shuru hua hai abhi to bohot si manziley paani hai...
Chot jissey bhi lagey lekin dard dono ko barabar ka hoga...ek ke hissey ka dard dusra baat lega...


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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: -ambrosia-

Awesome post abhay👏...

Jodha jalal ..safar abhi shuru hua hai abhi to bohot si manziley paani hai...
Chot jissey bhi lagey lekin dard dono ko barabar ka hoga...ek ke hissey ka dard dusra baat lega...




Sonia...
The Journey Started in True Sense now...Till now, there were Lots of Serious Ups and Downs..Hope now the consistency will be maintained..

PS --- BB's Kids' Fate will be decided before Aurangzeb or Bahadur Shah Zafar's Arrival..😉
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: history_geek



Sonia...
The Journey Started in True Sense now...Till now, there were Lots of Serious Ups and Downs..Hope now the consistency will be maintained..

PS --- BB's Kids' Fate will be decided before Aurangzeb or Bahadur Shah Zafar's Arrival..😉

Yes...u r right...agar cvs ne phir se koi kabada track nahi laya to waho hoga jo socha hai
waise kya tum bata saktey ho real mein BB ke koi aulaad thi ya nahi..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: al_pal

Wonderful post abhay , what can i say when u tell very beautiful aspect of episode. Me , divya and paddy went through few discussion over that episode as I was not able to gasp why she retreated when he needed her most . He was in complete zombi state but still his mind body and soul knew where to go for solace but she did not responded ,when u r soul
mate , u feel his pain , his agony1st , she had quite time for her self , to go through her emotion and collect herself as we know how strong she is . At that moment the outer look does not matter becoz she should have seen pain his eyes , that empty ness in his whole being , what was needed at that moment was just a silent hug , no words or any other action , becoz in state of empty ness he still asked her is she ok ? That is how his soul is in sync with her . In hamaam what she did was perfect , he needed that outlet & what she did on next day was marvalous , she did what a soul mate would do to cradle him , to shield him, share his pain and making sure she is there and will be there for eternity .


Hi,

The following post by Pia (taken from Maddy's Sunday Special Thread) should help you in understanding why Jodha flinched from Jalal's touch and proximity when he came to her hojra, all covered in blood.

Note: Pia and Maddy, please don't mind that I am copy pasting this post here. It's a wonderful post and as soon as I read it, I felt that it perfectly answered Al_Pal's doubt. 😊

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impiya:

I loved the scene where Jalal came to Jodha's hojra- soaked in blood, looking flabbergasted, out of this world. I thought he was in his own world, completely oblivious to what was happening around him. He still remembered one who is closest to him and that person is his Jodha begum. I don't know what he wanted from Jodha; solace, love, comfort or some sort of assurance that what he did was right. He knows that Jodha is the person he can fall back on- he can trust completely that she will give her fair, unprejudiced, honest opinion that no one else dares to. Willingly or not Jodha gave exactly that. She was shocked, detested with that roop of Jalal, any sane person would be. She was not ready to hug him and say Darling!! You have done the right thing, don't worry- Let people say whatever they want to. I am with you!' If he went to any of his other begums- any other hojra of his harem, he would have easily got what he wanted because no one would have missed the opportunity to show their concern and love for the emperor .But Jodha did what came naturally to her. That is the beauty of their relationship that they can be themselves to each other without thinking much. Jalal was dejected to see that no doubt, but he understood. Jodha also realized the moment she saw him staring at the mirror and thought she should not leave him alone in that condition. From then on she accompanied him everywhere from hamam to Maham's hojra, She was always there by his side. I particularly liked her in the hamam scene. Yes she didn't join him immediately, didn't cheer him up with pep talk; instead she gave him the much needed space to vent out his frustration, his grief. I loved Jodha yesterday- she was calm, composed, understanding wife without being too forceful and overfriendly. I don't think she held Jalal responsible for anything, neither she was indifferent to his feelings. I am sure she will stand by him, share his grief and soothe him.

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