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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Akdhaparijatluv



Mansi This track tedapan of jalal is stupid n wil get backfired... Jalal is dng all these to protect Jo n their kids... Wat exactly he is dng to achieve that,?? I'm stil thinking he is either on spell or genuinely attracted to atifa... Keeping aside his plan with atifa wat exactly he is dng to protect Jo n kids??

1) he knows Jo n kids life in danger so did he tighten his security around jodha Hojra?? And did he arrange soldiers to keep guard of Jo weneve Jo goes outside alone ?? Let me think that according to precap jo is gng to see khyber in well... So wen she is leaving palace did he make any arrangements to make smeone follow her n protect her werever she goes??
2) I wud hv really loved if he used tede plan in finding surang to Jo room... He wil know abt it aftr her kidnap... Sharif also doesn't want Jo kids to born so wat if sharif uses this surang n cmes to Jo room n poison Jo food n there no one can check food also...
3) jalal is busy in trapping atifa( let's think his plan) wat if atifa husband or any Kabul gang gives sme ark to kill babies while jalal is busy with atifa... Did jalal keeps an eye on them n make sure that no one can give poison or harm Jo ?? Wat if atifa husband disguises as khwajasera(new pic) n mixes sme ark to kill Jo baby?

These r the basic ones to protect Jo... Is he implementing all these to save Jo?? I dnt think so... Bcz I dint find any security or extra care from others to save Jo... If he has plan then definitely smeone wud hv followed Jo in precap scene but it seems lik she came alone... Even if Jo uses shawl to hide herself immdedialtely aftr cmg out of Hojra there shud b ppl who continuosly keep eyes on her wat she is dng ? Wer is she gng? Who came to meet her? Did anyone give her to eat? This is how his plan works even if he doesn't come to her or directly show care or concern for her but making sure that she is protected..

His harsh horrible words alredy made her half dead.. U know Wat words he used in all these three days... Dnt want to mention it... It may b his plan but due to this does he even think til how much it wud hv broken her... His words gave me nausea feeling all these days n for sure it wud hv made Jo collapsed...

In all these his plan is actually getting backfired ... His plan to protect kids n Jo but Reverse is wat happening right now making Jo n kids life in danger n also making Jo mentally tortured...

y is jalal thinking that if he acts to b harsh n rude to Jo n make whole harem Believe that JJ r no more in love then there won't b harm to Jo n kids?? Atifa , her hubby came to kill Jo n kids so it doesn't matter to them that if he loves Jo or if he doesn't loves Jo... At any cost they wil kill kids as they r nxt heir to throne...even if jalal shows concern n care for Jo then also atifa wud hv fallen for him n their plan wil b same...

So I strongly think either he is under spell or really attracted to her... Spell bcz he was very happy wen he saw atifa on that day n stood infront of window smiling( same dress n same happiness was there wen Jo arrived Agra previously) and his self talks abt atifa( who wil listen self talk)and he drew painting by seeing her for two minutes but cudnt draw Jo who he knows from one year and went against god in ramzan month which he wud not do normally...not spell bcz he used same dialgues lik love wajood,, he is normal to other ppl...

In all these I feel cvs changes track... Initially made jalal to fall for her n now bcz of all calls mails n religious issue they made it as his plan which looked lik absoulutely foolish plan of his..mansi he is not showing any care or concern n also he dint make any arrangements to protect Jo...

No they will show tedapan ... but the tedapan is badly planned as Diksha also has written!
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi , i m back as i said with my one more take abt Jalal and the future track...

let me clear one thing, here i m not abusing Jalal ... but whatever CVs have shown us for last few days, and from that whatever theories we have made from it, i m going to write abt it... and this is not to hurt anybody... still if anybody is hurt, then , in advance i m really sorry...

so now after so many days , many of us r agreeing that Jalal is faking his love/attraction for atifa... he is acting to catch the culprit who is there to harm his love and his kids...and so many of us have started saying, appreciating the fact that Teda Jalal is back...and i would have loved, if this would have been really true... coz if this is his plan, then sorry to say, but this is going to prove worst tedapan till today...

yes, he was Teda and we loved it...but his real tedapan was seen , when he did all sort of ruthless negotiations to marry Jo... his same tedapan and shrewd nature as a king was seen again at the time of sukanya marriage, in that fort issue...same teda , smart and caring king was seen again in Tasneem case... but then his plans were much perfect...

but this time he lacks perfection... if as we say he is acting to save her, then in all this he himself is hurting her beyond limit... and while he might be taking care of those whom he suspect to be behind Jo's life, he is ignoring those who r around him 24*7, right inside his palace... may be he is aware of them, but then he doesn't seem to do anything abt them... that secret passage opening in Jo's room, all his enemies seem to know abt it, but he himself is unaware abt it... and it seems he ll come to know abt it only after Jo goes missing...

then suddenly that passage ll be seen and the conclusion ll be made that she is kidnapped and her life is in danger and with her his heirs too r in danger... and so he ll be shocked, even he may regret for lack in her security... he might even fear abt losing her and babies forever... but won't it be too late by the time he finds her missing??

what he ll gain with this stupid acting? he might fool somebody he suspect abt the rift btw him and Jo, and may wait to catch the culprit red-handed when that person ll try to harm Jo... but is he so sure, there is only one person trying to kill her? why he is thinking in such limited way?

if he really cares for her so much, (as we think), shouldn't she and their babies be his topmost priority... shouldn't there be an increased security around and inside her room... shouldn't he himself be present there to make sure, that she is really safe? will she be more safe, when he is with her, or when she is left alone and nobody is there to take care of her except her few baandis... what kind of plan this is, when just looking at it, anybody can make it to be a perfect disaster ???? what security and safety is he providing to Jo by staying with Atifa??? if she is a person sent to distract him, and there is somebody else who ll try to harm Jo, when Jalal is distracted by atifa, then till the time Jalal ll make atifa tell the truth, that another person, can kill Jodha atleast 10/20 times, by poisoning her or by using other means... what this plan is?

and Mansi, as that zee man told u that Jalal is not telling Jo coz he knows that she ll rush for his help, if he tells her... then actually it would have been better, coz he then would have been there to make sure, that she is not hurt till he is with her... here he is acting all this way to keep her safe, but what abt the mental stress he is causing her? she ll bear his harshness for her kids, surely she is that much strong, but the mental stress she is going through , ll surely cause some or other harm... and that ll only be known later when it actually will happen...

in this acting for her safety plan of his, Jalal has ignored very basic necessity for her, and that is love and care she needs right now... and this ignorance is going to make him pay badly...

i m not blaming him... yes, we all r happy that we r going to get teda Jalal back , when all his acting and all his planning ll be shown... but what will be it's use, if he has to cry buckets if she is hurt coz he was not with her when she needed him most??? who ll he put blame on , for that condition of her??

i have always said, i hate to see Jalal crying and apologizing, after proving wrong every time... and i don't know why, but in this proving him to be smart and teda, i fear, CVs r again going to make him look fool once again... friends, i m tired to see Jo struggling to live, and Jalal apologizing and crying for her life... i hate to see he is blamed at the end of every track... i want to see some different story this time...but looking at all the spoilers and promos in SBB and SBS, , it seems Jalal may come to rescue Jo, but till then she ll be very badly hurt and very weak... and again he ll fear for her life ... No , i don't want to see Ben track end once again... how many of u r ready for that?

ll CVs ever understand this???



Dhiksha and Mansi...hats off to u friends..no one can beat u guys...be it in giving analysis or predicting...but friends this time i hv lost all my hope on jalal...and in a way started hating jalal from this track...itni nafrat karne lagi hoon that i can even tolerate rukku at some point of time but not jalal... i cant see jo in pain..he is giving her nothing but pain and tears and i hate him for giving my jo such pain

All of u guys on this forum thinks that jalal is back with his tedapan and plan b... he cant change over night..I dont no whehter he is acting or he has fallen for atifa... but based on last tracks and our bitter experieces i dont want to beleive jalal this time and get hurt again and agian...

I wanted to see teda jalal but not at the cost of jodha... see in kyb case i dont find any fault in jodha..she is just trying to save someone who saved her and her kids..as a mother she is just showing her gratitude ..coming to rajvanshi princess dont no if its a saazish by someone or not..but still jo is wrong here...being a queen she should talk to jalal before taking any decision or writing any letter to them ..she doesnt hav any right to give her vachan before talkng to jalal... but still wat jalal had done is unforgettable and unforgivable... uttering such words to jodha and giving her such pain that too in her pregnancy days ...i cant forgive him

even if jo is wrong or if he is acting but uttering such words breaks some one totally...jodha had told him many times that this behaviour of his hurts her more...still he goes to an exteme in hurting her... see any wife or lover wud die very next sec if her husband or lover says that he doesnt love her anymore and in love with somebody else...so this time jodha is almost died..no hope of coming back..just becoz she is pregnant she may continue to live her life for the sake of her children..otherwise jo is dead long back ... by the time jalal realises how much he hurted her it il be too late..

now only one thing matters to me and that is jodha ...il watch this show only for jodha after this track..it doesnt matter to me anymore who he marries or whom he spends his night..instead they can show jo involving in taking care of taaz and shipping business and 12000 cavalry... now i dont mind if he is acting or not..but wat ever he said to jodha after this its impossible for me to forgive him.. i was supporting him blindly but not any more...now for me only jodha matters..and i cant see her in pain and in tears...he deserve only his jaan BEK MA and atifa kind of people in his life..he doesnt deserve my jodha...till now wat he did to jodha i had forgiven him..but not this time... he broke my jodha's heart..and i wont forgive him this time... and more over i dont want beleive this teda jalal with plan b and get hurt again in beleiving jalal who ends up as a fool who doesnt no anything apart from crying and saying sorry... this is his habbit to hurt jodha to an extent that il force her to take her life and then going behind her crying and by saying sorry and to forgive him...

All thanks to my sis ..she has come back from canada after long time. for vacation...so spending most of my time with her..isi liye cudnt get time to think about this track and feeling bad about jo ... meri di ki waja se aaj kal mere paas JA ke bare main soch ne ke liye wakt bhi nahi ..pata hi nahi chala weekend kaisa katam hogaya...days are passing like any thing...i am not even thinking about JA now..coz i wanted to spend my time with my sis now...and just hope this track gets over soon... it wud be very difficult for me to come out of this painful track if my sis is not here..all credit goes to her..and Jiya is not well ..she is admiited in the hospital since last one week..even she is not watching JA now...just hope she il be fine soon and il come back to this forum soon... i too il start watching this show again after this track...tc guys happpy weeekend again
Edited by Gem12 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi guys, take a deep breath and relax. Its only just a serial. And if its going to give u some solace - this track has produced the most positive impressions for the real life protagonists , Paridhi and rajat. According to a source whom I would like to believe, the jodi has finally buried the hatchet. They get along rather well. In fact for the last three weeks pari and rajat seem to be inseparable 😛 absolute good friends they have become on the sets. Chalo now at least we won't have any drama about pari not comfortable etc.
Coming to the serial. I am not a great fan of torture and pain inflicted on preg women but what if we are seeing it differently. What if there is more to jalal's tedapan? Consider this: why is he all of a sudden so rude towards Jo? We are thinking he is playing along with atifa. But there is a bleak possibility that jalal wants to inflict Max pain on Jodha so that she leaves him in utter disgust. He knows and we know Jo will never think of ending her life because of this. What if this is a part of his teda plan to ensure that Jo wants to leave him and he can send her to amer or pack her off to mathura for the time being. Till he has sorted stuff in the palace. It could be that jalal wants to fight out the enemies so that Jodha could return to a peaceful palace.

In this sense, jalal will emerge as a greater human being because of the sacrifice he had to make to ensure that his love and his babies come back to him in a better atmosphere. If I am not wrong didn't Jodha give birth to salim in chisti's ashram or fatehpur sikri? Why? Wasn't it because there were too many people to harm her and the baby? Again if i am not wromg this was a very tough decision for the couple to make as they wanted to be with each other. Is this okay? Apparently not. But for the greater good , yes. And in tvdom they will use this to create hype and drama.

Guys haven't we seen this 'I want him/her to hate me so that he/she is safe sacrifice drama' in hundreds of Bollywood films and serials? I can rattle of at least 25 films which had this as their main track.

So let's wait and see what the CVS have in store. They could surprise us really. And if they fail to , bashing zindabad! Me shall join in too 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
I am unable to copy-paste the entire thing here. This was my post on harrybird's thread:
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4127250&TPN=2
Edited by AntaresVega - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: skanda12

Rashmi, Surochita, my personal point of view on this rajkumari letter is that this first paigam which cam to Jodha via the toy seller is a fake one. It was not sent by the rajkumari at all, I feel, and it may be the clever chaal of maham or Ruq or someone in the Agra palace trying to fan the discord between Jodha and Jalal.
The reason I say this is that if the rajkumari really needed help to stop the hindu-muslim marriage, she would not have chosen jodha of all people to ask for help ... considering that jodha herself is married to a muslim! Why would anyone go to another person for help knowing that this other person has herself entered into a Hindu-Muslim marriage?

The possibility that the original letter being fake can be ruled out. This is because a letter that comes from a Rajkumari will be stamped by her to indicate its genuinity. I mean Jodha isn't that dumb that she'd reply to any letter that claims to be from a Rajkumari. Royal or not, people must have had ways to protect conversations. Otherwise, anyone could send a letter claiming that its from someone else. So thats ruled out unless the CVs have lost their head in this case as well.😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hi ,
Mansi something more I would like to add
1)We all know that Jalal is acting for the security and protection of Jodha.And rather than the outsiders,this time the insiders are a threat .And so all the planning is done.But then what about the usual security for her to be heightened ? She has been kidnapped and is now pregnant with the heirs in her womb ,so shouldn't be z-plus type security required?He is a Shehenshah of Hindustan who has huge army.I think real MUZ was commandant of 12000 horse cavalry.Then atleast , we should see 10 soldiers outside the hojra of hers armed properly.And more daasis inside the hojra ,who inspect every Single thing which is given to the queen.This can be done by any Shehenshah and for that matter he doesn't require to be Tedha.
2)Aatifa and Jalal scenes are liked by few saying they are passionate with proper hugs.Well I would tell you one thing ,if she is seductive temptress then she has to be be trained in "Kamshastra"If anybody knows about Mrichachakatik by Kalidas in that , vatasyayan had written six chapters of "Kamshastra" for courtesans on how to attract men.And the wife gets hardly one or two.So we should expect Aatifa holding him with some oomph factor ,doing all those moves to attract him.But to be honest, Ben was better than this actress in that matter.This one doesn't deserve a single look from the lead man.But for me it's better to watch Voldermort hug than these creepy hugs of Jalal Aatifa.Jo is Jalal's wife and a queen and she has many things to do also unlike Aatifa.And we can't expect a royal and sophisticated Jodha to be so "Bold" like Aatifa who being a married lady ,is happy in the arms of other man.And which lady if she is abused by her husband finds solace in other man's arms so easily.It was 16th century ,where women would prefer to die if husband mistreats them rather than go finding peace and security with other man.
3)Yes Jodha is impulsive .Yes she is too soft hearted that she doesn't understand that what other persons intentions might be.Yes she doesn't figure out what other person is thinking.But then how can we ignore the insults she faces everytime from everyone.Doesn't Jalal have shortcomings or he is a saint like Salim chisti.If Jodha has to learn then Jalal has to learn too from this track.He should know to control his temper "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough." As Sun said ,it's only Jo who can handle his temper any other woman would run away.
4) I hate weepy Jalal and I hate him saying sorry everytime.But I hate when Jo is extra goody goody with people like Ruku,BB.I hated the most when she was used as a Daasi during Ruqu's fake pregnancy track.Her "mohabbatwala" husband royally ignored it.So if we want a Tedha Jalal then I too want a smart Jo who knows how to behave with some people.
I am waiting for this Tedha Jalal to comeback but for the want of shrewd tactics one shouldn't forget the Common sense ,basic sense of kindness and compassion.Let us remember one thing ,this country got freedom from " Tedhe" Britishers due to efforts of a simple straight minded "Sabarmati ka Sant", who is remembered more than anybody in our history.
Edited by Rashmi81 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Hi ,

Mansi something more I would like to add
1)We all know that Jalal is acting for the security and protection of Jodha.And rather than the outsiders,this time the insiders are a threat .And so all the planning is done.But then what about the usual security for her to be heightened ? She has been kidnapped and is now pregnant with the heirs in her womb ,so shouldn't be z-plus type security required?He is a Shehenshah of Hindustan who has huge army.I think real MUZ was commandant of 12000 horse cavalry.Then atleast , we should see 10 soldiers outside the hojra of hers armed properly.And more daasis inside the hojra ,who inspect every Single thing which is given to the queen.This can be done by any Shehenshah and for that matter he doesn't require to be Tedha.
2)Aatifa and Jalal scenes are liked by few saying they are passionate with proper hugs.Well I would tell you one thing ,if she is seductive temptress then she has to be be trained in "Kamshastra"If anybody knows about Mrichachakatik by Kalidas in that , vatasyayan had written six chapters of "Kamshastra" for courtesans on how to attract men.And the wife gets hardly one or two.So we should expect Aatifa holding him with some oomph factor ,doing all those moves to attract him.But to be honest, Ben was better than this actress in that matter.This one doesn't deserve a single look from the lead man.But for me it's better to watch Voldermort hug than these creepy hugs of Jalal Aatifa.Jo is Jalal's wife and a queen and she has many things to do also unlike Aatifa.And we can't expect a royal and sophisticated Jodha to be so "Bold" like Aatifa who being a married lady ,is happy in the arms of other man.And which lady if she is abused by her husband finds solace in other man's arms so easily.It was 16th century ,where women would prefer to die if husband mistreats them rather than go finding peace and security with other man.
3)Yes Jodha is impulsive .Yes she is too soft hearted that she doesn't understand that what other persons intentions might be.Yes she doesn't figure out what other person is thinking.But then how can we ignore the insults she faces everytime from everyone.Doesn't Jalal have shortcomings or he is a saint like Salim chisti.If Jodha has to learn then Jalal has to learn too from this track.He should know to control his temper "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough." As Sun said ,it's only Jo who can handle his temper any other woman would run away.
4) I hate weepy Jalal and I hate him saying sorry everytime.But I hate when Jo is extra goody goody with people like Ruku,BB.I hated the most when she was used as a Daasi during Ruqu's fake pregnancy track.Her "mohabbatwala" husband royally ignored it.So if we want a Tedha Jalal then I too want a smart Jo who knows how to behave with some people.
I am waiting for this Tedha Jalal to comeback but for the want of shrewd tactics one shouldn't forget the Common sense ,basic sense of kindness and compassion.Let us remember one thing ,this country got freedom from " Tedhe" Britishers due to efforts of a simple straight minded "Sabarmati ka Sant", who is remembered more than anybody in our history.



nice post. especially loved ur second point. after reading some other threads I thought what I understand about love or what I saw growing up how a husband wife relation should be all are wrong.

Honestly being a ardent Akdha fan I want to see a Stronger smarter Jalal and Jodha who complete each other. I was amazed to read some comments where they said they just wanted JO to have Salim and her Job is just to take care of him.

@Mansi: Yours daily posts are well balanced and very positive. I Love reading because it gels with my wavelength..
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: AntaresVega

I am unable to copy-paste the entire thing here. This was my post on harrybird's thread:

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4127250&TPN=2



I could not stop my laughter after reading this..honestly...:):):):)
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: skanda12

Diksha, I agree with this point of view that this time Jalal has not calculated the risks and rewards of his strategy properly at all. But I have a theory why this is so ...
I get the feeling from the two phone calls I made to Zee, one recently and one about two three weeks ago. When I made that earlier call, as I told you also, they just did not directly confirm that Jalal was doing anything teda, although they kept saying jalal is not doing this deliberately (thus giving the impression that he was being embroiled in some saazish by someone and he may not be doing all this deliberately to hurt Jodha ... and they gave the impression as if there will be a big twist which brings him to his senses etc etc). ... the Creatives favourite storyline!
But I think the Creatives had not timed this track properly and they did this betrayal of Jalal (i.e. romancing with Atifa ) in the "paak-mahina" of Ramzan, and especially during Jodha's pregnancy. That must have brought them a flood of phone calls and emails cursing the track as it may have genuinely hurt many religious sentiments.
The difference in my call to Zee this time was that when I raised this religious sentiment hurt issue in the month of Ramzan he became extremely defensive and said "No no its Jalal's clevereness, he is doing this actually for the bhalai of Jodha and twins etc etc.
That shows that they may have changed the track from "mentally messed up Jalal" to "teda Jalal" in response to viewers agitation and drop in TRP.
With the result that it now looks like Jalal has been teda without even thinking up the strategy properly. Now it looks his strategy was a poorly constructed one without proper attention to Jodha and her condition.

Guys, I completely agree with you on your concern for not just Jodha but also for Jalal. But just tell me one thing before feeling bad for Jalal's plan (I can't say blaming as none of us are blaming him but are hurt along with Jodha for the way things are moving for Jodha), isn't it better to administer bitter pills to save the patient than leave him to die. If the doctor feels reluctant to give his favorite patient the tablet thinking it will spoil his taste buds for few minutes, will that not lead to more complications and may turn out to be fatal. If the doctor thinks operating his patient toe will give him pain (if the patient is diabetic), wont that later ends up with amputating the whole leg and in some case the poison may spread to the entire body and may cause untimely death.
Yes, as a husband and also as a king, he could have given her complete security and could have stayed with her 24 x 7 and see to it that she is not harmed. But what was the guaranty that there wont be any more wars as both Mahachuchak & Abul Mali are alive and are like wounded wild animals. Added to that there were news that Pratap along with some of his associates was also planning to attack. At situation like that, will it be possible for Jalal to stay with Jodha or even take her to War field as the previous experience caused good bumps on every one. Ok, even if he could succeed in saving her till her delivery, he can't stay with her and kids through out the life as a second skin as he was a ruler and it requires him to travel vastly to safe guard his territory or to expand his kingdom. What was the guaranty that the inner enemies will not harm his wife and kids later, after they were born. So the better way was to eradicate the enemy from the roots. He would have severed Atifa & her husband (if they were not his players) the moment he came to know about them than playing along with their plan but he had to get to the root of his enemy as they were just the toys and the player was / were somewhere safe. He wanted to get to not only the external enemy but also to those who were helping them from within the palace. To do this he had to take a firm step even though it was difficult.
His this step was not only hurting Jodha but even Jalal. Jalal is more hurt to stay away from his dear wife that too when she is carrying his ansh in her womb and he would have wanted to spend each and every possible moment staying with her and enjoying the growth of his kids. He would have wanted to pamper his wife to no limit but to do that he wanted her to be alive and unhurt. Seeing her sad, he is dying million deaths for not being able to reach out and wipe her tears. But to removes those tears from her eyes permanently, if he had to make her cry little now (for few days) is bearable.
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Posted: 11 years ago
Mansi jaya dhiksha maddy and other friends..JA and jalals character made us not to believe teda jalal plan b coz of last tracks..

Zee cheated us everytime with teda jalal and plan b and fooled us everytime


zee also did same thing lied to us again and again..even if they are telling us d truth ee r not ready to believe them


thr is a saying fooled everyone saying sher aya sher aya and foed us everytime...is baar sher such main aya bi to no one il believe...zee also did d samething..now i am not ready to take this sher aya concept and not ready to be fooled by zee again

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