At last ... Jalal shows deep concern for Jodha! - Page 11

Originally posted by: MPMANU

Hi Mansi. Very good analysis. Finally we some different emotion from Jalal other than what he gives Atifa. No Atifa is kind of relief and it made the episode watchable.

The first scene of JJ's comfrontation, i'm still spectacle whether he is really angry or only faking it. The initial anger might be real. I must admit that he also showed his pain even if it is for few seconds. But then again I cannot conclude firmly that the whole confrontation as fake because of this when it can be interpreted differently too. Jalal was way too harsh with his words and it is heart breaking to see Jodha's pain. Acting or not acting there is no justification for what all he have said. He question her love, her contribution, and her being wife. He said him giving his heart to her is his stupidity and biggest mistake in life.And blaming her for his indecent activity and telling that she does not deserve his love is the height. Yes does not deserve him because she deserve more. How conveniently he forgotten what all she did. I mean he is alive and having his kingdom is because of her. She was his love, wife, friend, mother and adviser. Talking about ego, I dont think she got ego. If so she would not be searching for him to talk to him and say sorry to him at night when he was romancing with Atifa. He is telling that he is being insulted but that could have been avoided if he has done his duty by investigating properly rather than reacting to anger. If he is faking all this than I would say that this a stupid plan. I still dont understand why this drama. If he thing that she will be okay after all this hard words than he is totally wrong and have not understand her. She might be strong outside but very sensitive and soft inside which can only be destroy by him. He also failed to learn from previous events. Ruks MC, she took the blame and gave up fighting. She attempt suicide when she does not have anywhere to go. During Benz, she drank poison cause she lost all will to be alive. In matura, she went in water. What if she does something in nervous break down. His plan to save her going to harm her more.

This track is like bringing back all previous and current track for closure. Adam khan was shown with Atifa's husband. Here the husband is under Todarmal in finance department. So, Adham track might start. They are showing Ruks alot, so her crimes might come to light. Chand begum was shown again which indicating Mahan and nigar. Atifa in one end. Shariffudin is back with full force. But one track that not gotten proper closure is the dhakka paigam. Jalal still dont know the truth. Bringing the old letter now would not bring drama. So this new paigam problem. I stongly suspect Maham's ( Malika-e-paigam) hand. She might have changed the content or the first letter Jodha receive is fake. Maham might have known what happen in the meeting and goes to see the effect which is the confrontation.

Originally posted by: lasyap3

If the letter is a real one😕, then the Rajkumari would have chosen Jodha because she very well knows that some sort of help can be expected from her , as she would be able to convince the Shehenshah somehow or the other

Originally posted by: surochitadutta

And moreover Jodha underwent all these during her marriage may be because of that she thought Jodha will be the best one who would understand her plight and now she has power and will be able to help her out...

Mansi I my original post in this thread most probably in page 6 I asked you. Whether CB Is faking is faking her madness or not coz I genuinely felt she purposely said all that fairytale for time pass.. And she is now perfectly alright... also whether there is any link between the Atifa track and CB track.. But you did not answer.. Do you think these are possible???

Originally posted by: skanda12

Rashmi, Surochita, my personal point of view on this rajkumari letter is that this first paigam which cam to Jodha via the toy seller is a fake one. It was not sent by the rajkumari at all, I feel, and it may be the clever chaal of maham or Ruq or someone in the Agra palace trying to fan the discord between Jodha and Jalal.

The reason I say this is that if the rajkumari really needed help to stop the hindu-muslim marriage, she would not have chosen jodha of all people to ask for help ... considering that jodha herself is married to a muslim! Why would anyone go to another person for help knowing that this other person has herself entered into a Hindu-Muslim marriage?

Originally posted by: skanda12

Diksha, I truly agree with you. As you may remember in my SMS update itself I had given this theory first (that she is not trying suicide) and later had added the suicide as a possible second-best theory.

There are two reasons why I too feel that she is not bent on suicide.

1. See just before she set out with a shawl and all that, she had heard the bandhis talking about how Khyber is banging his head on the walls of the well and he may well bleed to death. Knowing her predilection for saving souls in trouble, I think she may have gone to that well in sympathy for Khyber to see for herself what is going on. And as she peeped into the well her foot may have slipped or something causing Khyber to catch her and for her to then ask him to release her. The shock must have been that Khyber is outside the well and not inside! I strongly feel that a woman bent on suicide will not be dressed in a protective shawl etc.

2. This is the most important reason I can think of why she would not have gone for suicide. I have read that the instincts of nature are very strongly embedded in a mother-to-be.

I have heard many heroic stories of women who were pregnant who underwent all kinds of physical hardships just to be able to live so that their babies are safely delivered into this world.

At a time of pregnancy, the will of the mother to live and survive is at its highest. Researrchers into psychology say this. Even women who have been raped and find themselves pregnant and feel suicidal, according to one study I read, said they preferred to deliver the babies they are carrying and then after that to end their lives after leaving their babies in an orphanage.I was surprised to read this because I always felt that rape survivors who are pregnant will be desperate to get rid of the unwanted babies, na? But it seems the motherly instinct is stronger even that any hate for the man who caused the situation!

Any other time we could borne the torturous idea that Jodha was ready for suicide, perhaps, but at a time of pregnancy my firm belief is that women have their strongest will to live - not for themselves but to somehow deliver their babies safely, even if they themselves have to die after that. So natural instinct also goes against this idea!

Originally posted by: surochitadutta

And moreover Jodha underwent all these during her marriage may be because of that she thought Jodha will be the best one who would understand her plight and now she has power and will be able to help her out...

Mansi I my original post in this thread most probably in page 6 I asked you. Whether CB Is faking is faking her madness or not coz I genuinely felt she purposely said all that fairytale for time pass.. And she is now perfectly alright... also whether there is any link between the Atifa track and CB track.. But you did not answer.. Do you think these are possible???

Originally posted by: sweet_diksha

Hi , i m back as i said with my one more take abt Jalal and the future track...

let me clear one thing, here i m not abusing Jalal ... but whatever CVs have shown us for last few days, and from that whatever theories we have made from it, i m going to write abt it... and this is not to hurt anybody... still if anybody is hurt, then , in advance i m really sorry...

so now after so many days , many of us r agreeing that Jalal is faking his love/attraction for atifa... he is acting to catch the culprit who is there to harm his love and his kids...and so many of us have started saying, appreciating the fact that Teda Jalal is back...and i would have loved, if this would have been really true... coz if this is his plan, then sorry to say, but this is going to prove worst tedapan till today...

yes, he was Teda and we loved it...but his real tedapan was seen , when he did all sort of ruthless negotiations to marry Jo... his same tedapan and shrewd nature as a king was seen again at the time of sukanya marriage, in that fort issue...same teda , smart and caring king was seen again in Tasneem case... but then his plans were much perfect...

but this time he lacks perfection... if as we say he is acting to save her, then in all this he himself is hurting her beyond limit... and while he might be taking care of those whom he suspect to be behind Jo's life, he is ignoring those who r around him 24*7, right inside his palace... may be he is aware of them, but then he doesn't seem to do anything abt them... that secret passage opening in Jo's room, all his enemies seem to know abt it, but he himself is unaware abt it... and it seems he ll come to know abt it only after Jo goes missing...

then suddenly that passage ll be seen and the conclusion ll be made that she is kidnapped and her life is in danger and with her his heirs too r in danger... and so he ll be shocked, even he may regret for lack in her security... he might even fear abt losing her and babies forever... but won't it be too late by the time he finds her missing??

what he ll gain with this stupid acting? he might fool somebody he suspect abt the rift btw him and Jo, and may wait to catch the culprit red-handed when that person ll try to harm Jo... but is he so sure, there is only one person trying to kill her? why he is thinking in such limited way?

if he really cares for her so much, (as we think), shouldn't she and their babies be his topmost priority... shouldn't there be an increased security around and inside her room... shouldn't he himself be present there to make sure, that she is really safe? will she be more safe, when he is with her, or when she is left alone and nobody is there to take care of her except her few baandis... what kind of plan this is, when just looking at it, anybody can make it to be a perfect disaster ???? what security and safety is he providing to Jo by staying with Atifa??? if she is a person sent to distract him, and there is somebody else who ll try to harm Jo, when Jalal is distracted by atifa, then till the time Jalal ll make atifa tell the truth, that another person, can kill Jodha atleast 10/20 times, by poisoning her or by using other means... what this plan is?

and Mansi, as that zee man told u that Jalal is not telling Jo coz he knows that she ll rush for his help, if he tells her... then actually it would have been better, coz he then would have been there to make sure, that she is not hurt till he is with her... here he is acting all this way to keep her safe, but what abt the mental stress he is causing her? she ll bear his harshness for her kids, surely she is that much strong, but the mental stress she is going through , ll surely cause some or other harm... and that ll only be known later when it actually will happen...

in this acting for her safety plan of his, Jalal has ignored very basic necessity for her, and that is love and care she needs right now... and this ignorance is going to make him pay badly...

i m not blaming him... yes, we all r happy that we r going to get teda Jalal back , when all his acting and all his planning ll be shown... but what will be it's use, if he has to cry buckets if she is hurt coz he was not with her when she needed him most??? who ll he put blame on , for that condition of her??

i have always said, i hate to see Jalal crying and apologizing, after proving wrong every time... and i don't know why, but in this proving him to be smart and teda, i fear, CVs r again going to make him look fool once again... friends, i m tired to see Jo struggling to live, and Jalal apologizing and crying for her life... i hate to see he is blamed at the end of every track... i want to see some different story this time...but looking at all the spoilers and promos in SBB and SBS, , it seems Jalal may come to rescue Jo, but till then she ll be very badly hurt and very weak... and again he ll fear for her life ... No , i don't want to see Ben track end once again... how many of u r ready for that?

ll CVs ever understand this???

Originally posted by: skanda12

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promos are usually symbolic. They seldom come exactly the same in the actua lscene. We have to get the overall impression that Jalal is upset at Jodha for supporting Khyber. That's the general meaning of the promo.