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But one question how will they fit all this in the story which should stick atleast 50% to history
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But one question how will they fit all this in the story which should stick atleast 50% to history

Exactly, that is the challenge that Ekta and team face. They have to use the broad contours of history while playing around with many open tracks and many villains and vamps and then they have to keep creating this sepration-unity, sepration-unity repeated formula without overly distorting history!
Tough job!
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Exactly, that is the challenge that Ekta and team face. They have to use the broad contours of history while playing around with many open tracks and many villains and vamps and then they have to keep creating this sepration-unity, sepration-unity repeated formula without overly distorting history!
Tough job!

You are correct.You tell me how much creative liberty should be taken in an historical show ?
Because if it had been10 to 15 yrs ago,people would have accepted it as not everybody would hit the library and recheck the info.Here now in today's world with the advent of technology ,info is readily available through internet or even through forums ,social networking sites and all.So now people can even question the creators if they know the reality.
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You are correct.You tell me how much creative liberty should be taken in an historical show ?
Because if it had been10 to 15 yrs ago,people would have accepted it as not everybody would hit the library and recheck the info.Here now in today's world with the advent of technology ,info is readily available through internet or even through forums ,social networking sites and all.So now people can even question the creators if they know the reality.

This is also an age of legal disclaimers. See the clever disclaimer that we have before every episode that covers everyone's backside!
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Gem, as I said yesterday this is a lovely bit of deep analysis that you have put together. I had promised you that I would give you my deeply thought out views on this analysis by today, so here it is.

At first I thought I would take it point by point and give you my thinking on each point that you have analysed. As I said I agree with some of it and disagree with some of it, so I thought I would give comments in the same order in which you have written your points.
But when I looked at it again and again trying to frame my post correctly, I found it a bit difficult to overlay my thinking on top of your points. It was not coming out right. So I thought instead that I would put down my own points in my own order and give you my feel on the same topics you have written so that you and I can compare our perspectives.
How I would look at this whole sitaution we have now is like this:
The broad and macro perspective of why we are seeing this track

It is well known in Hindi TV serials that after the consummation track of the two lovers is over, then the Creatives become stuck about what to keep on showing. Here in JA for example, all the major points of the story, the epic love, have already been covered almost. Jodha and Jalal had enmity earlier, which then changed to love. She then showed him his "dil" and her role in converting him into a great king came in that moment when he got the title of Akbar. They became lovers and started sleeping together one year after their marriage, and now they are all set to be parents.

Now what is left to show in the love story per se? More and more lollipop love scenes surrounded by the politics of their home life and royal life and sultanate politics? Maybe they can show birth and death of twins and then birth of Salim ... all again in the midst of more politics of Agra ...

You see, the Creatives get stuck because when they have already shown a love geeting deep, deeper, deepest ... then they are just left with the option to show that deep love now and then in every episode surrounded by the events and happenings in the family and the sultanate politics.

At this stage what the Creatives then do is to create deliberate series of "love refreshments" ... that is, they show someone or something separating the lovers mentally, physically or emotionally, and then they show a bhandaphod , a khulasa, or a kiss-and-make-up moment so that the lovvers can again be united, and thus again the moments of deep love can be shown in a refreshed way. Thus all we can expect now from the love story of Jodha Akbar is a series of "separation-unity", "separation-unity", "separation-unity" kind of progress. Each time the separation will be caused by some of the villains and vamps, and each time the unity will be achieved by the two lovers themselves with the exposure of the villains and vamps.

Here two more aspects the Creatives have to keep in mind ...

a. They have to always show that some vamps or villains are responsible for the separation. Because if there are no vamps and villains responsible for the separation then that will imply that Jodha and Jalal themselves acted badly with each other, and thus they are not being true to the deep love they have professed for each other. So only if the vamps and villains are shown as having created the chaos the lovers themselves can be absolved of the blame for the separation.

b. If the Creatives try to eliminate the villains and vamps from the story there will be less and less opportunity to show the refreshment of the love. So the villains and vamps have to be retained or made to go scot-free or are only mildly punished ... because they are again and again needed to create the separations of the lovers so that again and again unity can be shown as "refreshed love".

Where are we now in the JA story as per above formula?

Accha, now in the case of JA also they have followed the same "separation-unity" formula as most serials do as I have described above.

After the consummation this is the first "emotional separation" track we are seeing wherein Jalal is shown fancying Atifa and Jodha is seen supporting Khyber. Doubtless some villain or vamps have to be shown as having created this sepration because otherwise it will look like Jalal and Jodha themselves "tukrao-ed" their deep love!

See already when many of us did not have the idea to blame the villains like Ruq for the separation we started feeling very bad that Jalal himself was neglecting his supposed deep love for Jodha and insulting her during pregnancy and cheating her. And similarly we also felt that Jodha, even if she had pity on Khyber, there has to be a limit to going against the fears of Jalal that harm will come to her and the babies.

See how we alll hate it when the blame for the separation falls on the lovers themselves. We are unable to take the idea that the lovers are themselves to blame for the separation. We all desperately now want some vamp or villain to have enginnereed this sepration so that jalal can be free of blame for neglecting Jodha during pregnancy, and so that Jodha can see how she too is being pushed to help Khyber at the cost of her love for Jalal!

Now we are all running to blame Ruq because we so desperately want her to be the reason for Jalal's odd behaviour, and we want also to see if Mahchuchak and ganag are responsible for pushing Khyber more and more into Jodha's path!

So to sum up what I have said so far:

One: The formula that works best for audiences - as the Creatives know - is that after consummation there should be repeated cycles of "separation-unity" so that the love between the two can be again and again refreshed.

Two: The sepration should not be caused by the lovers themselves as the audiences hate it if the blame for bad behaviour falls on the hero or heroine themselves. The story becomes unpalatable. The love gets sullied. So some villains or vamps have to be involved in the creation of the separation to absolve the lovers of the blame of the situation.

Three: At the end of the track there has to be partial exposure of the villains and vamps and/or only mild punishment since the vamps and villains are needed to again and again refresh the love by creation separations.

Four: In this current JA track, we are now going through the first separation track after the consummation. Here we all are currently upset that it looks as if Jalal/Jodha are themselves to blame for the mess they are in. We so want this Jalal behaviour to be explained as caused by some villain (eg. Ruq). We so want Jodha kindness to Khyber to be seen as the chaal of Mahchuchak and gang to push her more and more nearer to Khyber. We do not want to see Jalal as deliberately neglecting Jodha in pregnancy. We do not want to see Jodha as overly motivated to help Khyber at the cost of her love for Jalal. We so want Ruq to be drugging Jalal to fancy Atifa, and we so want Mahchuchak and Abul Mali etc to be deliberately pushing Khyber towards Jodha.

Five: As per typical formula, now there will be a breakthrough at the end of the track when Jodha and Jalal will realise that the villains are pushing them away from each other, there will be a big moment of revelation and re-articulation of their deep love for each other (i.e. refreshment of love) and the villains and vamps involved in the tracks will be "mildly caught and/or punished or may even go scot-free so that they can again start some separation on another fine day!

The slightly unique formula that the Creatives of Ekta have followed

While Ekta and her Creatives have largely been following the same trend as all serials do (as fully decsribed above) they have done one or two things extra which makes this serial different and more exciting than ususal serials.

One: Because they are following a historical story for the broad contours they have a lot of characters to play with since tin the real life of any King there are always lots of politics. So Ekta has also made room for lots of villains and vamps to be in her story and she has created many different tracks and sub-stories using these villains. So we now have a suituation that while this current track is going on there are also many other open tracks created previuously that are not yet closed. A number of villains and vamps have also been introduced in all these open tracks.

Two: Now Ekta is following a slightly unique formula. Usually in serials the "separation-unity" formula will be fostered using just one vamp or villain again and again creating trouble for the lovers. But here Ekta is using some two or three villains and vamps and two or three previous open tracks to come together to create the seperation. She has in her hand many villains and vamps and many open tracks, to play with.

At present I think she is using Ruq, Mahchuchak and Abul Mali as the combination of villains and vamps creating the Khyber-Atifa confusion and emotional separation of Jodha and Jalal. (Nigar, Sharif, Adham, Maham are not involved this time.) After the unity is achieved in this separation who knows, the next time the separation may have a different combination of villains and a different combination of previous tracks involved.

(For example, Maham, Ruq and Nigar may be involved and the Chand Begum track may be involved in somehow separating Jodha and Jalal in the next separation track before again unity is achieved. In the third sepration situation we may have a combination of Adham, Sharif and Maham creating the confusion between Jodha and Jalal regarding Atga son's marriage track).

I am not saying this is what will happen. I am saying this is how Ekta will take some old open tracks and some two or three villains and vamps for each new sepration track, and then solve it with a new renewal of Jodha-Jalal love.

Accha so I have tried to trace the macro picture of what is happening. In the light of this strategy of Ekta we now have to analyse:

1. Who are the combination of villains and vamps used in this track and which villains and past tracks are not used?

2. What is the confusion and separation that these villains have achieved and how will Jodha and Jalal unite after this track to say "I love you" with a refreshed vigour?

3. How long will this track last (Ekta has been known to say that one and half weeks is the maximum a track should continue and after every 10-14 days a fresh twist should be brought).

4. What are the old open tracks being used to create this separation situation and will these tracks be fully closed when unity is achieved? How will the tracks be closed?

5. Is it likely that any villains will be fully punished for this mess in this separation, or will they just be partially punished or will they go totally scot free?

6. What refreshed love scenes can we expect to see when this separation turns to unity? Will they show some fresh ways of expressing love between the lovers?

7. How soon after this "separation-unity" track will they again bring the next "separation-unity" track?

8. Since this story is loosely following history in some places, is there any historical hint of how the "separation-unity" formula may be brought about within the limitations imposed by history on this story.

I think this is the way this story has to be analysed. We have to keep the macro Ekta formula in mind when we analyse. Otherwise if we go too close to the story and characters without keeping the macro formula in mind, we will get all confused ourselves and go around in circles wondering who is the villain, what happens to the old tracks, why are the old tracks lying open, why are some villains gaayab etc etc.

My own small prediction:
In this current separation track my strongest hunch is that Ruq is feeding Jalal some hallucinogen drug to move him towards Atifa, (maybe taking advantage of the fact that Atifa may have some childhood connection of both Ruq and Jalal, which Jalal is not able to place, but Ruq knows fully well what that connection is and who is Atifa).
I don't think Atifa is a vamp and I don't think her husband is a villain either. The Atifa connection and her bad relations with her husband is just being used by Ruq to full advantage in pushing Jalal towards Atifa and away from Jodha at the crucial time of Jodha's pregnancy.
Meanwhile Mahchuchak and Mali are moving Khyber towards Jodha taking full advantage of the fact that Jodha has a soft heart and is showing sympathy for Khyber and Khyber himself has fallen for Jodha. Sharif, Adham, maham, Nigar are all not involved in this separation this time. Chand begum track is also not being used in this separation issue amnd may be kept for future use.
How this separation may reconcile could involve some past open tracks such as the wishes that Ruq has which she can use to demand Kyber death after he enters Jodha room, or Ruq may even go the extent of demanding that Jalal should marry Atifa as he has committed the crime of "touching another man's wife" and making that man divorce his wife etc. We don't know to what desperate extent these villains will go. We have to watch. But luckily even if Ruq uses her two wishes, Jodha and Salima have one wish each will can be used to neutralise Ruq wishes.
The unity of Jodha and Jalal will come where some bhandaphod exposes Ruq and her drugs and also on the other side Khyber defies Mahchuchak and Mali and refuses to do as they asked, and Khyber actually decides to die to save Jodha from Jalal's anger and suspicion! So the lovers Jalal and Jodha will realise that they are both not to blame and the villlains made them behave over-the-top and now their love is even stronger than before because Khyber actually brought them together by himself choosing to die rather than be the haddi that is irritating Jalal and making him scold Jodha!
If at all the Atga son's marriage issue is to be involved here it may started here but left as an open track for future use.
I don't know if I am making sense but I thought I would elucidate the macro formula against which all analysis has to be done to get an accurate picture of what is happening.



Lovely prediction & analysis Mansi...this is my first daily soap yar... i am not good like u in giving analysis

Agree with all your points...even i feel that rukku is using some drug .. and taking advantage of jalal's attraction..but my question is

In this show atifa is shown to be a married women... and her husband tortures her..at this moment Jalal touching a married women is considered to be a sin

If atifa has some connection with rukku then if rukku forces jalal to marry atifa for protection ..coz some how vamps will create a situation and makes atifa divorce her husband..in that case jalal has no option left but to marry atifa...coz of him her husband il give talaq to her... then even though jalal realises he was just a vitcim and rukku played big time with his love life jodha then he wud be shown in such a place that neither he can back out from this marriage nor il he be able to do justice to his love jodha...

wat i feel is if this atifa is helping rukku in seperating jalal and jodha then probably they might come up with a twist that this minister and atifa are not married but just a drama to gain sympothy of jalal.. so at the end wen he gets to no rukkus karname they can very well put all the blame on rukku..kyunki agar atifa shadi shuda hai aur jalal ki harkate ki wajah se he il be forced to marry atifa..and its a black mark being a king he has committed a sin ..which il not go well with awaam and fans and even auntys...no matter they can even accept a useless or nikamma shehensha..but no one ill accept lusty hero or unfaitful husband..

if this atifa is sent by kabul gang even then also they might come up with a tiwst like both atifa and minister acting to gain sympothy of jalal...later on they may blame jalal has commited a sin and not fit to be a shehensha... that time jodha m8 help jalal in coming out of this situtaution that these two were sent by MC to dethrone jalal... not only that if atifa is MC weapon who knows if she is another vishkanya..or she is gud in hypnotism ,or magic or spell or any other skill whr she can kill easily using her skills... so wen truth comes out they il stop the marriage saying she was sent by MC to kill jalal or dethrone jalal...


but now the question is who is behind atifa...rukku or MC... coz rukku atifa is that weapon to seperate jolal...if its sent by MC..then atifa is that weapon who can kill jalal or dethrone jalal..now the question is who is behind aitfa...rukku or MC.. or sent by MC...but atifa is using rukku and fooling her for her own maksat..coz right now we are seeing rukku everywhr like how maham was thr once during sujamal track... wats us opinion on this..hope we may get some clue who is behind atifa...
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Lovely prediction & analysis Mansi...this is my first daily soap yar... i am not good like u in giving analysis

Agree with all your points...even i feel that rukku is using some drug .. and taking advantage of jalal's attraction..but my question is

In this show atifa is shown to be a married women... and her husband tortures her..at this moment Jalal touching a married women is considered to be a sin

If atifa has some connection with rukku then if rukku forces jalal to marry atifa for protection ..coz some how vamps will create a situation and makes atifa divorce her husband..in that case jalal has no option left but to marry atifa...coz of him her husband il give talaq to her... then even though jalal realises he was just a vitcim and rukku played big time with his love life jodha then he wud be shown in such a place that neither he can back out from this marriage nor il he be able to do justice to his love jodha...

It will all be easy to resolve if Atifa is shown as some close cousin sister of jalal. The he can prove that touching her and holding her hand is not a taboo! So there are easy ways of backing out from this mess. jalal will not be shown as having no choice but to marry Atifa!

wat i feel is if this atifa is helping rukku in seperating jalal and jodha then probably they might come up with a twist that this minister and atifa are not married but just a drama to gain sympothy of jalal.. so at the end wen he gets to no rukkus karname they can very well put all the blame on rukku..kyunki agar atifa shadi shuda hai aur jalal ki harkate ki wajah se he il be forced to marry atifa..and its a black mark being a king he has committed a sin ..which il not go well with awaam and fans and even auntys...no matter they can even accept a useless or nikamma shehensha..but no one ill accept lusty hero or unfaitful husband..
That is also a good idea that Atifa may be shown as not really married already to this husband. That is one more way to back out of this mess for Jalal! Good one!

if this atifa is sent by kabul gang even then also they might come up with a tiwst like both atifa and minister acting to gain sympothy of jalal...later on they may blame jalal has commited a sin and not fit to be a shehensha... that time jodha m8 help jalal in coming out of this situtaution that these two were sent by MC to dethrone jalal... not only that if atifa is MC weapon who knows if she is another vishkanya..or she is gud in hypnotism ,or magic or spell or any other skill whr she can kill easily using her skills... so wen truth comes out they il stop the marriage saying she was sent by MC to kill jalal or dethrone jalal...
See this Atifa seems not so important to the story at all! The new promo is again based on Jalal giving saza e-maut to Khyber for entering Jodha's room! Didi you see that promo?


but now the question is who is behing atifa...rukku or MC... coz rukku atifa is that weapon to seperate jolal...if its sent by MC..then atifa is that weapon who can kill jalal or dethrone jalal..not the question is who is behind aitfa...rukku or atifa.. or sent by MC...but atifa is using rukku and fooling her for her own maksat..coz right now we are seeing rukku everywhr like how maham was thr once during sujamal track... wats us opinion on this..hope we may get some clue who is behind atifa...
I think this time Ruq is behind Atifa since MC is too far away to engineer day to day cozyness between Atifa and Jalal. Also they are showing Ruq in almost every scebne, so mu hunch is that Ruq is behind Jalal attraction for Atifa and MC behind Khyber pushing towards Jodha.

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Hi all happy friendships day to all of u
I am just so confused reading all theories and jalal behaviour doesn't suit aby theory so I will blv he is in attraction and will realise he is doing wrong
because alk these theories confusing my confused my mind more
carry on cy ltr
I just came to wish u all

as stress is not good for me right now bye all
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Lovely prediction & analysis Mansi...this is my first daily soap yar... i am not good like u in giving analysis

Agree with all your points...even i feel that rukku is using some drug .. and taking advantage of jalal's attraction..but my question is

In this show atifa is shown to be a married women... and her husband tortures her..at this moment Jalal touching a married women is considered to be a sin

If atifa has some connection with rukku then if rukku forces jalal to marry atifa for protection ..coz some how vamps will create a situation and makes atifa divorce her husband..in that case jalal has no option left but to marry atifa...coz of him her husband il give talaq to her... then even though jalal realises he was just a vitcim and rukku played big time with his love life jodha then he wud be shown in such a place that neither he can back out from this marriage nor il he be able to do justice to his love jodha...
It will all be easy to resolve if Atifa is shown as some close cousin sister of jalal. The he can prove that touching her and holding her hand is not a taboo! So there are easy ways of backing out from this mess. jalal will not be shown as having no choice but to marry Atifa!

wat i feel is if this atifa is helping rukku in seperating jalal and jodha then probably they might come up with a twist that this minister and atifa are not married but just a drama to gain sympothy of jalal.. so at the end wen he gets to no rukkus karname they can very well put all the blame on rukku..kyunki agar atifa shadi shuda hai aur jalal ki harkate ki wajah se he il be forced to marry atifa..and its a black mark being a king he has committed a sin ..which il not go well with awaam and fans and even auntys...no matter they can even accept a useless or nikamma shehensha..but no one ill accept lusty hero or unfaitful husband..
That is also a good idea that Atifa may be shown as not really married already to this husband. That is one more way to back out of this mess for Jalal! Good one!

if this atifa is sent by kabul gang even then also they might come up with a tiwst like both atifa and minister acting to gain sympothy of jalal...later on they may blame jalal has commited a sin and not fit to be a shehensha... that time jodha m8 help jalal in coming out of this situtaution that these two were sent by MC to dethrone jalal... not only that if atifa is MC weapon who knows if she is another vishkanya..or she is gud in hypnotism ,or magic or spell or any other skill whr she can kill easily using her skills... so wen truth comes out they il stop the marriage saying she was sent by MC to kill jalal or dethrone jalal...
See this Atifa seems not so important to the story at all! The new promo is again based on Jalal giving saza e-maut to Khyber for entering Jodha's room! Didi you see that promo?


but now the question is who is behing atifa...rukku or MC... coz rukku atifa is that weapon to seperate jolal...if its sent by MC..then atifa is that weapon who can kill jalal or dethrone jalal..not the question is who is behind aitfa...rukku or atifa.. or sent by MC...but atifa is using rukku and fooling her for her own maksat..coz right now we are seeing rukku everywhr like how maham was thr once during sujamal track... wats us opinion on this..hope we may get some clue who is behind atifa...
I think this time Ruq is behind Atifa since MC is too far away to engineer day to day cozyness between Atifa and Jalal. Also they are showing Ruq in almost every scebne, so mu hunch is that Ruq is behind Jalal attraction for Atifa and MC behind Khyber pushing towards Jodha.



thanks a ton dear...No Mansi..i hvnt seen the promo... yeah we all know that jo il save kyb using her wish... but how kyb will save jalal or jodha.. even atifa is rukku's weapon...coz atifa wont cause any harm to jalal...jodha ki to chance hi nahi... they never interactec... if even jo saves kyb also wat il he do in mad house or in jail.. highly confusing... how these two roles il end at the same point...unfortunatley we dont have any spoiler realted to this atifa also... more over zee said that atifa is sent by enemies... since they are liars we can think opposite to wat they conveyed...matlab aitfa is working for some one who is very close to jalal ...means rukku... but mansi...wat il be jo's condition...il she be able to accept jalal and love back like before...he was not loyal to jodha..chahe kaaj ya rishta ek baar jo tuta so tuta..chahe jitna bhi try kare tute huye ka nishan rahi jata...kya wo faith aur wo love beleif jodha ke mann main phir se jaga payega jalal is harkat ke baad...
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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gem,as I said yesterday this is a lovely bit of deep analysis that you have put together. I had promised you that I would give you my deeply thought out views on this analysis by today, so here it is.</font>


<div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">At first I thought I would take it point by point and give you my thinking on each point that you have analysed. As I said I agree with some of it and disagree with some of it, so I thought I would give comments in the same order in which you have written your points.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">But when I looked at it again and again trying to frame my post correctly, I found it a bit difficult to overlay my thinking on top of your points. It was not coming out right. So I thought instead that I would put down my own points in my own order and give you myfeel on the same topics you have written so that you and I can compare our perspectives.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff">How I would look at this whole sitaution we have now is like this:</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The broad and macro perspective of why we are seeing this track</font>
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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">It is well known in Hindi TV serials that after the consummation track of the two lovers is over, then the Creatives become stuck about what to keep on showing. Here in JA for example, all the major points of the story, the epic love, have already been covered almost. Jodha and Jalal had enmity earlier, which then changed to love. She then showed him his "dil" and her role in converting him into a great king came in that moment when he got the title of Akbar. They became lovers and started sleeping together one year after their marriage, and now they are all set to be parents.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">Now what is left to show in the love story per se? More and more lollipop love scenes surrounded by the politics of their home life and royal life and sultanate politics? Maybe they can show birth and death of twins and then birth of Salim ... all again in the midst of more politics of Agra ...</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">You see, the Creatives get stuck because when they have already shown a love geeting deep, deeper, deepest ... then they are just left with the option to show that deep love now and then in every episode surrounded by the events and happenings in the family and the sultanate politics.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">At this stage what the Creatives then do is to create deliberate series of "love refreshments" ... that is, they show someone or something separating the lovers mentally, physically or emotionally, and then they show a bhandaphod , a khulasa, or a kiss-and-make-up moment so that the lovvers can again be united, and thus again the moments of deep love can be shown in a refreshed way. Thus all we can expect now from the love story of Jodha Akbar is a series of "separation-unity", "separation-unity", "separation-unity" kind of progress. Each time the separation will be caused by some of the villains and vamps, and each time the unity will be achieved by the two lovers themselves with the exposure of the villains and vamps.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">Here two more aspects the Creatives have to keep in mind ...</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">a. They have to always show that some vamps or villains are responsible for the separation. Because if there are no vamps and villains responsible for the separation then that will imply that Jodha and Jalal themselves acted badly with each other, and thus they are not being true to the deep love they have professed for each other. So only if the vamps and villains are shown as having created the chaos the lovers themselves can be absolved of the blame for the separation.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">b. If the Creatives try to eliminate the villains and vamps from the story there will be less and less opportunity to show the refreshment of the love. So the villains and vamps have to be retained or made to go scot-free or are only mildly punished ... because they are again and again needed to create the separations of the lovers so that again and again unity can be shown as "refreshed love".</font>


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<font color="#0000ff">Where are we now in the JA story as per above formula?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Accha, now in the case of JA also they have followed the same "separation-unity" formula as most serials do as I have described above. </font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">After the consummation this is the first "emotional separation" track we are seeing wherein Jalal is shown fancying Atifa and Jodha is seen supporting Khyber. Doubtless some villain or vamps have to be shown as having created this sepration because otherwise it will look like Jalal and Jodha themselves "tukrao-ed" their deep love!


See already when many of us did not have the idea to blame the villains like Ruq for the separation we started feeling very bad that Jalal himself was neglecting his supposed deep love for Jodha and insulting her during pregnancy and cheating her. And similarly we also felt that Jodha, even if she had pity on Khyber, there has to be a limit to going against the fears of Jalal that harm will come to her and the babies.</font>

<font color="#0000ff" size="2">See how we alll hate it when the blame for the separation falls on the lovers themselves. We are unable to take the idea that the lovers are themselves to blame for the separation. We all desperately now want some vamp or villain to have enginnereed this sepration so that jalal can be free of blame for neglecting Jodha during pregnancy, and so that Jodha can see how she too is being pushed to help Khyber at the cost of her love for Jalal!</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now we are all running to blame Ruq because we so desperately want her to be the reason for Jalal's odd behaviour, and we want also to see if Mahchuchak and ganag are responsible for pushing Khyber more and more into Jodha's path!</font>


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<font color="#0000ff">So to sum up what I have said so far:</font>


<font color="#0000ff">One: The formula that works best for audiences - as the Creatives know - is that after consummation there should be repeated cycles of "separation-unity" so that the love between the two can be again and again refreshed.</font>


<font color="#0000ff">Two: The sepration should not be caused by the lovers themselves as the audiences hate it if the blame for bad behaviour falls on the hero or heroine themselves. The story becomes unpalatable. The love gets sullied. So some villains or vamps have to be involved in the creation of the separation to absolve the lovers of the blame of the situation.</font>


<font color="#0000ff">Three: At the end of the track there has to be partial exposure of the villains and vamps and/or only mild punishment since the vamps and villains are needed to again and again refresh the love by creation separations.</font>


<font color="#0000ff">Four: In this current JA track, we are now going through the first separation track after the consummation. Here we all are currently upset that it looks as if Jalal/Jodha are themselves to blame for the mess they are in. We so want this Jalal behaviour to be explained as caused by some villain (eg. Ruq). We so want Jodha kindness to Khyber to be seen as the chaal of Mahchuchak and gang to push her more and more nearer to Khyber. We do not want to see Jalal as deliberately neglecting Jodha in pregnancy. We do not want to see Jodha as overly motivated to help Khyber at the cost of her love for Jalal. We so want Ruq to be drugging Jalal to fancy Atifa, and we so want Mahchuchak and Abul Mali etc to be deliberately pushing Khyber towards Jodha.</font>


<font color="#0000ff">Five: As per typical formula, now there will be a breakthrough at the end of the track when Jodha and Jalal will realise that the villains are pushing them away from each other, there will be a big moment of revelation and re-articulation of their deep love for each other (i.e. refreshment of love) and the villains and vamps involved in the tracks will be "mildly caught and/or punished or may even go scot-free so that they can again start some separation on another fine day!</font>


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<font color="#0000ff">The slightly unique formula that the Creatives of Ekta have followed</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">While Ekta and her Creatives have largely been following the same trend as all serials do (as fully decsribed above) they have done one or two things extra which makes this serial different and more exciting than ususal serials.</font>


<font color="#0000ff">One: Because they are following a historical story for the broad contours they have a lot of characters to play with since tin the real life of any King there are always lots of politics. So Ekta has also made room for lots of villains and vamps to be in her story and she has created many different tracks and sub-stories using these villains. So we now have a suituation that while this current track is going on there are also many other open tracks created previuously that are not yet closed. A number of villains and vamps have also been introduced in all these open tracks.</font>


<font color="#0000ff">Two: Now Ekta is following a slightly unique formula. Usually in serials the "separation-unity" formula will be fostered using just one vamp or villain again and again creating trouble for the lovers. But here Ekta is using some two or three villains and vamps and two or three previous open tracks to come together to create the seperation. She has in her hand many villains and vamps and many open tracks, to play with.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">At present I think she is using Ruq, Mahchuchak and Abul Mali as the combination of villains and vamps creating the Khyber-Atifa confusion and emotional separation of Jodha and Jalal. (Nigar, Sharif, Adham, Maham are not involved this time.) After the unity is achieved in this separation who knows, the next time the separation may have a different combination of villains and a different combination of previous tracks involved.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">(For example, Maham, Ruq and Nigar may be involved and the Chand Begum track may be involved in somehow separating Jodha and Jalal in the next separation track before again unity is achieved. In the third sepration situation we may have a combination of Adham, Sharif and Maham creating the confusion between Jodha and Jalal regarding Atga son's marriage track).</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am not saying this is what will happen. I am saying this is how Ekta will take some old open tracks and some two or three villains and vamps for each new sepration track, and then solve it with a new renewal of Jodha-Jalal love.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff">Accha so I have tried to trace the macro picture of what is happening. In the light of this strategy of Ekta we now have to analyse:</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">1. Who are the combination of villains and vamps used in this track and which villains and past tracks are not used?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">2. What is the confusion and separation that these villains have achieved and how will Jodha and Jalal unite after this track to say "I love you" with a refreshed vigour?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">3. How long will this track last (Ekta has been known to say that one and half weeks is the maximum a track should continue and after every 10-14 days a fresh twist should be brought).</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">4. What are the old open tracks being used to create this separation situation and will these tracks be fully closed when unity is achieved? How will the tracks be closed?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">5. Is it likely that any villains will be fully punished for this mess in this separation, or will they just be partially punished or will they go totally scot free?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">6. What refreshed love scenes can we expect to see when this separation turns to unity? Will they show some fresh ways of expressing love between the lovers?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">7. How soon after this "separation-unity" track will they again bring the next "separation-unity" track?</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2">8. Since this story is loosely following history in some places, is there any historical hint of how the "separation-unity" formula may be brought about within the limitations imposed by history on this story.</font>


<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think this is the way this story has to be analysed. We have to keep the macro Ekta formula in mind when we analyse. Otherwise if we go too close to the story and characters without keeping the macro formula in mind, we will get all confused ourselves and go around in circles wondering who is the villain, what happens to the old tracks, why are the old tracks lying open, why are some villains gaayab etc etc.</font>


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<font color="#0000ff">My own small prediction: </font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">In this current separation track my strongest hunch is that Ruq is feeding Jalal some hallucinogen drug to move him towards Atifa, (maybe taking advantage of the fact that Atifa may have some childhood connection of both Ruq and Jalal, which Jalal is not able to place, but Ruq knows fully well what that connection is and who is Atifa).</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't think Atifa is a vamp and I don't think her husband is a villain either. The Atifa connection and her bad relations with her husband is just being used by Ruq to full advantage in pushing Jalal towards Atifa and away from Jodha at the crucial time of Jodha's pregnancy.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Meanwhile Mahchuchak and Mali are moving Khyber towards Jodha taking full advantage of the fact that Jodha has a soft heart and is showing sympathy for Khyber and Khyber himself has fallen for Jodha. Sharif, Adham, maham, Nigar are all not involved in this separation this time. Chand begum track is also not being used in this separation issue amnd may be kept for future use.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">How this separation may reconcile could involve some past open tracks such as the wishes that Ruq has which she can use to demand Kyber death after he enters Jodha room, or Ruq may even go the extent of demanding that Jalal should marry Atifa as he has committed the crime of "touching another man's wife" and making that man divorce his wife etc. We don't know to what desperate extent these villains will go. We have to watch. But luckily even if Ruq uses her two wishes, Jodha and Salima have one wish each will can be used to neutralise Ruq wishes.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The unity of Jodha and Jalal will come where some bhandaphod exposes Ruq and her drugs and also on the other side Khyber defies Mahchuchak and Mali and refuses to do as they asked, and Khyber actually decides to die to save Jodha from Jalal's anger and suspicion! So the lovers Jalal and Jodha will realise that they are both not to blame and the villlains made them behave over-the-top and now their love is even stronger than before because Khyber actually brought them together by himself choosing to die rather than be the haddi that is irritating Jalal and making him scold Jodha!</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">If at all the Atga son's marriage issue is to be involved here it may started here but left as an open track for future use.</font>

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<font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know if I am making sense but I thought I would elucidate the macro formula against which all analysis has to be done to get an accurate picture of what is happening.</font>

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