Rocking the boat or sinking the ship; note on page 41 - Page 18

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

A good question but actually it seems like that only.

Except we have no catalyst as to why they drifted apart

Sudhir was jealous and did not know she was pregnant when the rift happened

CVs do not even know how to adapt a movie properly ;)

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

A good question but actually it seems like that only.

When everybody is suggesting filmi tracks, for current scenario, I'll suggest Agnisakshi, it makes more sense

Hi, Divs. A well written post to not jump the gun, but to wait & watch 😉 . But kya karen, hum sab log well versed with CVs strategy wrt to Jallu too 😛 . But I still know most of us will be incredibly pleased if its shown we have a return of our TE. After seeing so many comments pro Jallu here, I d definitely like to give him the benefit of doubt, but still keep my expectations low at the same time 😆 .

As u said, I also liked that last scene of Jodha coming to Jallu & that wifey cajoling hubby back to good mood. It was more or less a first from Jodha & was most pleasant to watch. Kaash we d got more such scenes before to balance out our puppy Jallu .

Ur Schrodinger s cat, good example (am sure Harry s going to love the inference u drew for her recent kitty Jallu & bheegi billi s posts 😆).

You ve given a list of very pertinent reasons of why Jallu might not be actually enamored of Atifa, setting out Jallu s hitherto loverboy cum very good hubby s side, but it doesn't take our 'great' CVs a moment to make a smart Jallu to a dumbo or a brave warrior into a crybaby etc etc, we all know it , but still ur points argue very well for Jallu s side. And U urself have written for the other side too, he he.

And regarding Jallu s bashing, well, when has that not happened. Majority of forumites always do it & even us some of Jalal lovers too have done it seeing some of his major dumb actions. And same we ll do again if this track s end also shows him succumb to his errr 'muse' (). We are nothing if not fair , haina 😉. But I too am cringing at the numerous anti posts and some of the words used to bash him .

Anyways, all of us might be angry with his behaviour, but for all we know, Jodha might just get a little hurt & upset, but take it in her stride & move on, keeping in mind her understanding of the polygamous 16th century setup 😆 .

For ur positivity s sake, I ll try to hope too for our tedha (not that langda one 😛 ) Jallu 😆

Divya- the only reason I was clinging to the show is for Jalal. Now since they completely destroyed Jalal there is no hope 4 me.

Originally posted by: Rashmi81

Divya ,

I feel there are no accidents in life.lf we have to meet someone then we will meet.It was in the destiny of Jajo that Atifa will come .Atifa might be anyone a pawn of someone,an assassin or nobody but destiny has sent her to really test the love bond of Jajo.

Atifa's arrival has brought some positive points too.Those who felt Jalal went overboard with pampering of Jo they can take a sigh of relief.Next few days you won't see him counting hunars of Jo.

Even Jo learnt a lesson that everytime Jalal won't come and say sorry to her or manofying her.Today she went to him herself and how cutely making a puppy face she was holding his Jama and total nakhra she did when she was talking to him.

What Jalal feels towards Atifa might not be even love or lust but her energy fields are pulling him.

Let's wait and see what happens now.

True, every event in life makes a relationship and people evolve. I found Jodha extremely adorable yesterday.

Maybe Atifa has an energy field that pulls Jalal ... but why is it not working on her own husband 😆

Originally posted by: selvi1275

Bullseye...inspite of everything shown, we also see a constantly brooding Jalal...

Thanks! Yes, Jalal is still pensive

Originally posted by: Gem12

Though I hv not seen the episode but after reading LU I almost had tears in my years feeling jo's pain.. and seeing jalal's behaviour ..but later on I questioned my self wat happened in one night that everything changed in thr lifes... is he the same jalal..and started recollecting all incidents and discussed with her...more than me she had many doubts like me..many questions like me but left with no answers..so today I am not giving on my take what happened exactly y it happened..dont no..but just wanted to rethink about wat happened and trying to connect all loop holes

Friends its something fishy.. daal main kuch kaala nahi..bohot kuch kaala hai..par kya hai.ye kisi ko nahi pata.. for the time being lets forget for sometime y jalal was behaving like this..and y jo is concerned about kyber...

Theory one:

Lets not believe zee..for some zee said jalal lusts atifa..for many of us he said no love story nor lust story.. and it il end soon..but I feel this track is not a short one..infact just like bens track which il go atleast min 30 to 45 days..

Bens Case	Atifa's track
Fight started with dhakka scene	Fight started with jo s concern towards khyber
Ben entry-she is a dancer from kabul	Atifa entry-singer from kabul
Jallu used ben to make jo jealous	Here he is shown lusting -may be a victim or acting to save jo and his babies
Shivani marriage with hakim-she doesn't want to get married to hakim	Rajvanshi princess marriage with atga son- princess not interested in getting married to mughals
Jo was not aware of jalal's intentions	Here jo knows about it-lets see wat step she il take
Rukku maham badkofied jalal	Rukku badkofying jalal and hb
Jo took poison to save him	This time only time will answer"who il save whom

Myself and Jiya were discussing whole night about this track and we identified the loopholes and tried to connect it

Rukkaiah

Remember the warning jalal given to rukku ...

She hates jo..and doesn't want rajvanshi princess to give birth to the heir.. she not only wanted to separate jolal but also wanted to prove that jo is not taking care of kids and her health..if tmw she plans something like MC also she can easily blame jo that due to her careless ness MC happened..remember she said on that day infront of mirror il not let u give birth to sultant heir.. il wont let u succeed...She was so evil at that time..acted all lovely infront of jalal..alone she showed her true face..

Everything started wen jolal are back to mad house after kidnapping track, after coming when jj r in their hojara n jodha first time saw babies movement n also jallu too feeled this but in that scene also we felt that time he didnot not show any excitement about this feel of his babies n we thought may be he was guilty that time thats why gave those expressions but if we see that scene again then we knw at that time also he was physically there with jodha but his mind was not with him may be ruq or atifa start their spell that night n effects of that spell we saw frm next morning

Next day was day 1 of ramzan holy month...next day morning Jalal for the first time said to Jo hume lagta hai hum apko teek se samaj nahi paye..sounds fishy...

Wen Jo went to Jail its rukku who got to no about it and instigated HB and later on jalal too joined and scolded Jo...sounds fishy...

Wen jo was having stomach pain..rukku said Jo was fasting and jalal scolded her and left the place..he never came back to her...not even worried about her health.sounds fishy..

Later on rukku came to HB and with food to break her ramzan fast and again instigated hb against jo..sounds fishy..wen did she started taking care of all these things... yesterday she managed to give him medicine thru drug..who knows may be she was doing all this from day one of ramzan holy month..kya pata food main mix kiya ho... wen ever rukku and jallu spends time she used to give jam..but this time she gave him some other drink..some thing very fishy..

Today also rukku gave some drink to jalal and gave evil smrik..sounds fishy..

Who knows since ramzan started she is taking care of this fast thing..and jalal's weird behaviour started from that morning..both ruklal were so uncomfortable till Jashan..all of sudden both started playing chess..and jalal started spending nights with rukku and complaining about Jo like bens track...-- ...now both are very comfortable and jallu not at all comfortable with jo.. he is not even looking at jo and into her eyes..he is avoiding seeing her.. something seems to be very fishy

either jalal wantedly doing this to save jodha from all dangers and with some plan behind this..if not rukku is plotting to separate jolal...this time she is playing games withd HB also..coz if jalal is not on jo's side next its HB who il not allow jo to be alone..so very carefully ek teer se do nishaan pe war kar rahi ho...

Jalal:

something is wrong..this is not the jallu we knew..he is not jodha's jallu...from the day one his eyes are set only on Jo... and that too now she is pregnant.. something is fishy..dont no what..daal main zaroor kuch kala hai... kuch to gad bad hai...

wen jo went to meet kyb how does jallu got to no the next min...
jalal ko kaisa pata chala..jo ko humesha se pamper karne wala aaj achanak se itna badakne kaise laga hai..even if its attraction towards atifa still jo is his heart beat...strange.. its a planned one.. jo ko paigam pohunch na..jallu waha ana sab kuch kaise exactly horaha hai..its not only planned by MC...some one from mad house ..two parties are playing thr games seperately & differently..

second come wat may jalal never ignored jodha in last 1.5yrs..
ek hi din main aisa kya hogaya ki wo jodha ko bhool hi gaya... he was fine even after the hamam scene...
uske baad kuch hua..kya hai kisi ko pata nahi..
today rukku gave some drink and given evil smrik..
after this atifa hamam scene he didnot visit jo once...
he is meeting atifa every now and then
wen her husband beats her how come next min this info passes to jallu before reaching atga..
now taking tansen and his student for hunting... strange..he went with rukku or Jo... again strange..

remember tat day jalal warned rukku before jashan.. after that kidnapping track... after that from next morning jalal is behaving all weird.. he tried to paint jo's pic..and he said i feel still hum dono ek dusre ko teek se samaj nahi paye..after that he met atifa in hamam.. how did she get entry to take bath in royal bath tub..who gave her permission..some one from harem close to jalal behind this only can do this... the look both exchanged in bath tub after that he is not even looking at Jo... mostly wen ever these two fights its always jalal goes to jo and then both il say sorry to each other..but this time he never went to meet her..instead he went to rukku's hojra and started complaining about jo like before.. and then went to meet atifa in mid night...touching married women and taking of her ghunghat and holding hands in public ... he is not the same jallu whom we no.. now planning to take tansen and his students for hunting means atifa ..not informing jo .. wen jo asks her giving lame reasons like pregnancy..not even looking into her eyes...seems fishy..he is not the same jalal who used to crave to spend atleast sometime with jodha...but now she is pregnant..but still he is behaving weired..lets agree that his love is not true love ..it was just only lust..and now he is after atifa..but is he the same jallu wen he got to no a bandhi got preg in the beginning of the show and was about to celebrate..but later on got to no that child was not his.. how he was craving to have kids of his own..maan te hain jodha se mohabbat nahi ...ab atifa pe man hai...par kya bache par bhi pyar nahi.. is he the same jalal who cried for kids and almost broken everytime.. isn't something fishy here..going for hunting wen jo is pregnant and her life is in danger..still this kyber is in jail still he is going for hunting..to puri daal hi kaala hai

Atifa and her husband:

This lady looks very dangerous... remember from day one her husband is scolding her y she is not covering her face with jallu..what if jalal recognize them...what if others recognizes them

Next scene he said don't u no who are u.. y u are not covering ur face..can we take it as a hint who ever looks at u il become ur puppet coz of magic or spell or hypnotism...may that's y he keeps on telling her to cover her face with gunghat..

Still she is not even bothered .. any married women il die in that generation if any male touches her apart from her husband..here she is happily allowing jalal to touch her hold her...admire her..both gets lost into each others eyes..

Wen her husband beats her how this info is reaching jalal before atga ..who knows that this minster and atifa are husband and wife in real..may be acting just to gain sympathy of jalal to kill him

Thru eyes they can hypnotize and make anyone dance according to thr tunes..who knows may be she has applied the same logic on jalal also..thats y he is behaving all weird.. in that case y he is acting normal with rukku...?? Only time ill answer..who is the mastermind behind this..cud be rukku or atifa or jalal or his enemies...

MC and abumali:

Now thr aim is not only to kill jalal but also to kill jo and her babies.. high chances that may be atifa cud be her agent..

Khayber

Two chances: thru kyber to kill jodha..but since he is not ready to kill ..plan b..to send kyber to jodhas room..either he il kidnap jo again and later on they plans to kill both kyber and jodha..if not kyber il get caught...and jallu il suspect jo and separation..in that case easy for them to kill both jalal and jodha individually..now they hav realized they cant kill the other coz both are each others strength..so divide and rule policy...alag karo phir maaro...ek teer se do nishaan..no jodha no jalal and his kids..

Since jallu is not in palace who il save jo if kyb kidnaps her.. what if kyb kidnap hi na kare bus vapas chala jaye..some one sees this may be rukku sees this and informs this to jalal and instigates him against jo..gusse main jalal gives saza e maut to kyb... jo il use her wish and saves kyb..this il irk jalal more..and separation ..rukku il again insult Jo uses this opportunity to separate jolal for ever... finally wen jo gets to no atfia is here to kill jallu and tries to save jalal and in the end may be kyb saves both jolal and sacrifices his life if not jallu il give him job and keeps him with him in palace..ek aur jo ki manju ki list palace main add hojayega...

Atga and jodha

Guess jodha this time she il tell jallu that the princess is not ready to marry her..par he wont listens to her so she may take atgas help..

Theory 2:

Jalal is not truly in love with jodha..just in love with the idea of being in love with jodha..thats y got easily attracted to atifa..and found his real soul mate..thats y always thinking about her..in that it's a tight slap to us loyal fans..better to shut everyting and watch something else and say bye bye to JA ...better jo to go back to amer as mad house people doesn't deserve her..

Friends.. i hvnot seen the epi..just LU,mansi update and talk with jiya's help I am able to give this take..i can never see my jodha in pain..so wont be watching it till this track ends... just waiting to see happy jodha..right now I don't want to comment anything on jalal till I gets clarity about his behaviour..if he is lusting jo then the end of love story...just hope for the best..fingers crossed..Happy weekend guys

Hey Gem- great predictions ... but only the CVs can tell how it will unravel.


However, I agree that Atifa shares a lot of similarities with Ben, especially a liking for the hamam 😉

Jodha, has not shed a tear yet ... she is managing this with strength and grace or else what would be the difference between her and Ruqs? You should watch it.

Originally posted by: harrybird

Yes Rashmi,

Definitely this is not a disgusting track...

But a testing track...test for Jo & Jallu...test for fans as well !

If Jalal emerges out as the winner ( hope so ) , this would turn out to be a great one indeed !

PS: I am weak in Physics,Could you please enlighten me about the energy fields pulling our Jallu 😉

A test indeed!

Originally posted by: rima4ever

i will still be positive

i know that jalal is good

Good! 😊 A few moments of weakness cannot erase the goodness of a person

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