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Posted: 11 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Paru...

if it was a male centric story then why did they name it as Jodha -Akbar?😕As far as i know Jodha Akbar is a love story.😳
Yaar r u my same old friend Ela?Hope no one has hacked ur account and writing all these.😕😆


JA is definitely a love story...that of an Emperor N his one amongst 1000+ wives from his harem 😆...not vice versa 😉 ...that too, from the 16th century...😃

How can it be ANYTHING else but MALE CENTRIC???? 😊.

It can only be FICTIONALISED to make it female centric, the way it is being done at the moment...This may not augur well with many, including me...its ok na...those who r enjoying it, please continue to do so...but those who r not, should not be stopped from voicing their opinions, I'd think...




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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


JA is definitely a love story...that of an Emperor N his one amongst 1000+ wives from his harem 😆...not vice versa 😉 ...that too, from the 16th century...😃

How can it be ANYTHING else but MALE CENTRIC???? 😊.

It can only be FICTIONALISED to make it female centric, the way it is being done at the moment...This may not augur well with many, including me...its ok na...those who r enjoying it, please continue to do so...but those who r not, should not be stopped from voicing their opinions, I'd think...







right now it is not even love story


it is a female centric story

where akbar is portrayed as mihir virani and om agarwal


and jodha is depicted as tulsi and parvati


and if it is called butchering by some then wats wrong in it


are we insulting real jodha????

we r talking of reel jodha who has soul of a K series actresss


i m quite sure any one will demand meaningful deewane khaas scene of akbar with navaratans

than jodha with moti bai or zakira



anyone will want a promo of jalal becoming akbar inplace of shehnaaz accusing rape charges
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Posted: 11 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---


JA is definitely a love story...that of an Emperor N his one amongst 1000+ wives from his harem 😆...not vice versa 😉 ...that too, from the 16th century...😃

How can it be ANYTHING else but MALE CENTRIC???? 😊.

It can only be FICTIONALISED to make it female centric, the way it is being done at the moment...This may not augur well with many, including me...its ok na...those who r enjoying it, please continue to do so...but those who r not, should not be stopped from voicing their opinions, I'd think...




1000 ladies and one man means majority is female know.then it has to be female centric.😆
But we r watching a serial which is the love story b/w an emperor and his Hindu wife.
btw ,i did'nt stop anyone from voicing their "opinions".
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Paru...

1000 ladies and one man means majority is female know.then it has to be female centric.😆
But we r watching a serial which is the love story b/w an emperor and his Hindu wife.
btw ,i did'nt stop anyone from voicing their "opinions".


😆 I had been wondering how on earth JA is managing such high TRPS with these kind of outrageously illogical & feminist tracks...but actually not very tough to understand, I'd think...😃

If One male with 1000+ wives is "female centric" then god save that one male from all the (ec)centric wives!!!!😆 😉...
Edited by ---Khushi--- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#55


Originally posted by: Paru...

if it was a male centric story then why did they name it as Jodha -Akbar?😕As far as i know Jodha Akbar is a love story.😳
Yaar r u my same old friend Ela?Hope no one has hacked ur account and writing all these.😕😆


You are missing her point darling. The story is of the mighty King Akbar and his wife,queen Jodha Begum.

Unless AKbar was the king of hindustan,could Jodha be the queen of hindustan? Hope ur getting the point.

There are two approaches to this story and both are equally important. Firstly,the intra-relationship between Jalal and Jodha-teh husband and wife,how hate got transformed to love,how their understanding grew etc.

And secondly,their individual journeys,Jalal,the ruthless king became Akbar,the most loved emperor. And Jodha,the rajput princess who was an outsider in Agra,was loved by many in the harem and got involved with handling the harem issues.

But whats happening in the show,is quite messy.they've jumbled both the approaches and have made one big khichdi.

Being in love,didnt convert Jalal the king to Jalal,the queen.Thats just absurd. He was still very much the king and Jodha very much the queen. Its not a sexist comment,its a fact that the kingdom was handled by a king and not a queen.

Yes,its true that Jodha did take take "siyasati decisions" later on in life,but that was to a minimum. The major decisions were always taken by the king.
Edited by The.Patthaaka. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: The.Patthaaka.




You are missing her point darling. The story is of the mighty King Akbar and his wife,queen Jodha Begum.

Unless AKbar was the king of hindustan,could Jodha be the queen of hindustan? Hope ur getting the point.

There are two approaches to this story and both are equally important. Firstly,the intra-relationship between Jalal and Jodha-teh husband and wife,how hate got transformed to love,how their understanding grew etc.

And secondly,their individual journeys,Jalal,the ruthless king became Akbar,the most loved emperor. And Jodha,the rajput princess who was an outsider in Agra,was loved by many in the harem and got involved with handling the harem issues.

But whats happening in the show,is quite messy.they've jumbled both the approaches and have made one big khichdi.

Being in love,didnt convert Jalal the king to Jalal,the queen.Thats just absurd. He was still very much the king and Jodha very much the queen. Its not a sexist comment,its a fact that the kingdom was handled by a king and not a queen.

Yes,its true that Jodha did take take "siyasati decisions" later on in life,but that was to a minimum. The major decisions were always taken by the king.




i m not comparing with mahabharat

but draupadi is most important character of mahabharat and the yudh was for her honour


that does not mean that the maker will only show draupadi shubhadra bounding in place of war


here also MUZ is responsible for jalal's transformation which is well accepted


so it will be better to show the effects i.e showing akbar's work than bonding of MUZ with HB ,ruk or moti
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: happygolucky099




i m not comparing with mahabharat

but draupadi is most important character of mahabharat and the yudh was for her honour


that does not mean that the maker will only show draupadi shubhadra bounding in place of war


here also MUZ is responsible for jalal's transformation which is well accepted


so it will be better to show the effects i.e showing akbar's work than bonding of MUZ with HB ,ruk or moti


No better way to put it! 👏 The new Mahabharatha fans have criticised the PH for such minute Natakiya roopantr's they have done. For example,Subhadra's entry in the show was pre-poned,I remember how much that was crticised. Just coz she was supposed to enter the picture later on.

Just imagine what our response should have been? They've infused so much nonsense in the name of NR!

All in all,The new Mahabharatha has impeccable execution. Even whatever minimalistic NR's they do,are worth watching.

But look at our plight. Mah Chuhcak has become Phoolan Devi!

Its not abotu comparing.its just that,NR's can be done,but atleast they should make sense! This MC-phoolan's overcoat looks like Santa Claus's red coat in black!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#58
evry character can be strong simultaneously without making the other character weak or dumb. but its the trend of this show where one character is made dumb & illogical to prove the other strong. 1st of all whts the need to merge DEK scenes & love scenes??? the CVs can easily show jalal completing his DEK works & then drool over jodha when maybe he is walking through the garden & then the rest of the scene could have followed. not paying attention in the political matters is not an true emperor will do. balance is seriously needed in the show. as per jodha goes she shows her strongness in front of jalal, but when it comes to the others she doesnt follow the same. rules should be equal for all. too much "mahanta" sumtimes spoils the story. as per ruku goes she is the same person who always had warned jalal against maham, now how can she hide the fact tht maham had killed tht bandi??? thts not wht the intelligent ruku will do, not even out of insecurity, bcoz thts against the duty of a BEK. shehnaaz is another crazy character who is beyond any logic. i know sumday she will become positive but she cant be forgiven anyday bcoz 1stly she had tried to kill rahim & now she is trying to frame todermal. whtever maybe the reason trying to kill a small child cant be justified. about mahchuchak, mita is no doubt a gud actress, but sumhow till now the character is not working for me.
Edited by munnirony - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i have spend most of my free time last week watching repeats of dhoop kinare and zindagi gulzar hai on YT...and i can watch these dramas 100 more times and yet come out refreshed ...

i have watched just one or two episode of JA in 2 weeks and even now i do not feel like catching up ...not even JA scenes...this show has lost all hopes and unless the makers wake up and deal with the issue nothing is going to salvage it...if EK and her team does not have the time,energy and resources and the creativity to put in a historical why bother even attempting it..instead she should have just made another run of her mill hate marriage turning to love turning to saas bahu...

characters are in the pits...every one of them...this is not even mills and boons or classics,nor politics or drama,nor action or romance...they are stuck in between clueless to do what...

it is a pity and i have realized i am not going to waste my grievances anymore on this show...

and we should for our own sanity forget this has anything to do with real characters or real history...

channel handled jhansi ki rani much much better than this...
Edited by sun29 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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1st i wl say Jalal character has been feeble since a long time. Before he was manipulated by maham n ruq terribly now he is taking decision as like as Jodha is giving instruction. Largely Ja has no entity to take any plausible decision by himself. He has no capability to get wrong person.
2nd,Jodha is no more previous fiery princess who had highly self prejudice, never did bow down before any guilt not even for sake of her family members but now she has no self respect n easily does bow down before guilt if its for sake of her family member. Cvs have made jodha exorbitant geneous with this personality there is no matched with parctical world.
I perplex to think sometimes with this illogical,impractical characterization of JJ, how wl they show they both wl involve with high political issues in future.
MahaC'S entry was given me a ray of hope that perhaps now cvs wl departure frm harem politics n start the real politics to include both JJ but to see episodes, its not seemed anyone amid JJ has willing to b involving in political matter. Jalal started to talk abt MC with Jodha but cvs cut it into few seconds.
I have nothing to say abt another roles where as main protagonists have no consistancy in characterization.
I just want to say in last 1 year cvs have focused only harem politics,ruq n maham now they should change their pattern of stroy line focusing on political issues to enclose JJ N SB( as she was an important advicer of Ja's court), give priority on maan singh, TM roles, to introduce another navratnas of Akbar's n to make side line ruq character, to bid adiue maham,adham asap for bringing back the old charm of JA.

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