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Posted: 11 years ago
#11
Mansi good post!
Yesterday's episode... hmmm, nothing to say about it. 😆

and promo is just atrocious! 🤢
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



waiting for ur write up on the Promo..



done. Updated the post.
See the promo and episode separately. :)

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Posted: 11 years ago
#13
Hats off to you that you managed to write a post on such a stupid , illogical, irrelevant episode, what a waste of time.
About the promo, given how creative CVs - are am glad Shehnaaz dint point a finger at Adgah Sahab!!! Gigi Anga would have fainted 😲
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Whatever it is, the whole promo was distasteful.

And to top it all when Jodha refused to sleep with Jalal , I started asking myself "Have I signed up to see Mahchuchak's daughter's romance with Haider Kasim or what?" Nothing, absolutely nothing, is going in the way we audiences want, so what's the whole point? And who are these TRP aunties giving the serial such high TRPs at a time like this? No wonder Zee is not even bothering to take our calls or give explanations!

Yesterday's episode was a clear Friday-quality episode, intended to make us all hang upside down in discomfort till Monday. Now all I can pray for is that on Monday we do not get a Monday-quality episode that is again a non-progressive khichdi!

I have some small feeble hope that at least on Monday prior to this Meena Bazaar, or during the Meena Bazaar, this Shehnaaz wil do this "blame Todarmal scene" (because some people have pointed out that the clothes Jalal and Jodha wore in yesterday's precap Meena Bazaar scene are the same clothes they wear in the Todarmal-wala promo!).

If that is the case then this Meena Bazaar may also witness a bhandaphod ... maybe the discovery by Jodha that Shehnaaz is a negative egg, and then the swordfight and then the revelation to Shehnaaz that Jalal is not the captor of her mother but Maham is?

As regards that spoiler picture of Ruq with the bow and arrow I have no idea what to make of that because Ruq is planning to give Jalal a shamsheer as a gift and not a bow and arrows, so we can't even imagine that she is dressing up to match her gift!

The whole of my serial watching life is in a mess because of these six or seven tracks going on parallelly in Jodha Akbar, that I am barely able to grasp who is whose mother, and who is whose rapist and who is whose grandfather! It is all so confusing now with a plethora of peripheral stories and characters , while the main leads refuse to sleep with each other, that I feel as if I am watching a story called "Extras of the Mughal Dynasty Without the Birth of Salim".

In the week of the anniversary of the show, I didn't think I would have to see something so dismally low. Dunno what else to say, life is bleak at the moment!


I agree completely with this, especially multiple tracks at one time is very confusing and unpleasant. R is being redeemed by CV when R is still arrogant and rude, as if nothing happened she is involving other begums, asking for their opinion - I seriously don't believe it, this totally out of her character. Anyway if she changing and that's why they redeeming her I wouldn't bother but she is still harping that she can't forgive Jodha when she is the one should for treating her as servant, CV is sweeping lots of things under the rug especially the wrongdoings of the villain- and this is what I can't take it at all. The glorifying the villain and their acts.

Nothing to say about Jodha refusing to spend time with Jalal, forum is already is already after her anyway because Jalal was taking it lightly, laughing and jesting I will treat the scene the same way provided CV doesn't show repeatedly something like this. And maybe like normal new wife, daughter in law having to do a lot of things in her new home would teasingly, coyly and lightly deny her husband - I am letting her scoot free now, this one time...😡

The promo is distasteful - but if it to close one the very many tracks running I think we just have to digest it hoping Shehnaz's truth would come in open very soon because there was a tweet by Tellytalk India that Jodha Akbar will have an interesting fight sequence between Jodha and Shehnaaz in its upcoming sequence.


PS: I can't take the Surag mystery anymoreee..please close it CV...


Edited by gheet - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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am sick and tired of this placefew want jodha scenes comletely less coz they think its waste of timeso what abt repeated ruq shouting or maham cave visitswhy can't we blame right person I am not saying praise jodha always at least have little mercy in character and actressevery blame cant put on herwriters need to write good scenesdialogues need to be smartThey say do what they told to do and say what writers give then in script to say how come obly guns on her always be reasonableand story is not abt akbar the grtso those who want jodha out of picture its never gonna happenmoee that episode this place ruin the essence of show

hope this post donr take sanity of your thread and if it does that sorry

bashing a character or actress for a scene which is not in her hand is rude
There scenes written so purely

its not only jodha who keeps asking aap yahan shehnsha

whenever jodha enters his room his first question is same aap yaha kuch kaam tha

who write dialogues for them
but I see no one wipl say why jalal because there ppl see rajat not jalal and with jodha ppl see paridhi and dig out faults in every scene
for trp aunties both equally matter and loved by should I say jodha little more

Creative dont know what jj says it n Friday and next episode u see change in behaviour
actors speak what they told to speak

bashing character and actress will not gonna give anything

why jodha scenes should be less its not documentary of akbar its jodha akbar
u have to see her
Yesterday we saw jodha not giving up on competition and wanted to win for jalal its not good

if jalal wanna spend time with Jodha cant he take het out why meena bazaar
how can he spend time with here there but no one complaints on it because its jalal

but Jodha refusal makes a big issue and deserve a bashing of actress

I am not doing this comparison to divide all but showing truth

by bashing and laughing on character never helps
and always jodha
cvs writing and scripting is so shabby and poor that episode looks boring

cvs need tp write good dialogue a reasonably good scene can make fans go gaga over

its saying to many things spoil actual dish
they enter MahaChuchak without givng exit to maham , ruqaiyya , adham

jalal is so unaware of all those things
Without cloosing loopes they opened new ones this khichdi nake all things worse

episode was not so bad its the promo effect which makes us more mad furious

if jodha going away cant jalal stop her and they sit on bed and scene end there
I guess parijat wouldn't have any problem in that when cvs not writing good scene what can actor do

jodha goes and jalal smiles basically laugh weirdly

And plus scene was edited badly they showed in coming up jalal dialogue abt he would love if she stay and she smiles
lol it was not in actual episode if u emd leads jj scenes like this kuch samajh nhin ayega

I am tired of this forum baseless allegations

sorry for my venting on your thread if u want I will edit it
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I don't know how you had patience to write an analysis for this blah episode.
Since I started watching JA, i have always watched the entire episode despite irritating repetitive scenes of Ruq, MA-adham etc but today I only watched Akdha scene and Jodha scene of thinking about gift.

When I had read the update and not watched the episode, I was mad and annoyed with Jodha that why did she not spend night with Jalal and rob us of anothe Akdha scene. But, after watching the scenes, I was not mad anymore.. When I saw the scene again, I noticed Jodha amost gave in to Jalal (when she says nahi nahi aapke bhet ke liye taiyaari karni hain- if u see her expression and tone of voice) but realized itand rushed out because she wanted to work on his gift. I actually liked the scene. There was a different feel to it. How Jalal was caressing her cheek and she realized the intention and then Jodha trying to go away, because she knows she won't be able to control herself and might get conviced and then Jodha says u're naughty and cunning and jalal says thanks for compliment and says when wife is sharp then husband has to be and tries to flirt again but she rushes out. When I saw Jodha worrying and serious about gifting something special to Jalal and discussing with her gang, It reconfirmed that she was worried about the gift. If she was doing nothing after coming from jalal's room then I might have been like woman, u could ahve been with Jalal rather than doing nothing. so, not mad anymore.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Alright, so here's what i feel about new promo. Before writing i admit, i have not seen the promo. I have just read that, Shehnaaz accusses TM of outraging her modesty.?. Something like this.

The dissapointment among many friends here, lies in the fact that TM is a respected historical figure, and among the 9 gems of Akbar. Hence, the CV's should not experiment on him. :)

But, afterall, TM and the other gems are mortal beings.

Just see that ANYONE can accusse any person of ANYTHING even today...We can not tie the tongue of a person. If TM is being accussed, then this does NOT means he is guilty. Ab koi kuch bhi keh sakta hai. :(

Being a historical figure does not means , one can not be accussed. Infact, the people who are in power are the ones, who most likely to be accussed of such idiotic and baseless allegations. Remember, this is politics and we do have historical evidences where such charges were used, to have strong hold in the Siyasat. Few examples...

1. Razia Sultana was accussed in 1240, of having EMA and polyandry, by the Ulemas because they wanted to dethone her from the Takht of Delhi and sully her image in masses, because the masses supported her. So, you see, here the ''ULEMAS'' levied such a zilch charge against a lady. Ulemas are supposed to be pious people, when they can go to such an extent, what about any other person.?.

2. Birbal was once accussed of a charge which involved similar matter, as in the present TM case. That time even the Ulemas conspired against Birbal as they were jeolous of his closeness with Akbar, and backed this idiotic charge, and even spread this message like wildfire in the Sultanate to sully Birbal's image. Though that allegation held no ground. Dont want to write more on this.

3. Man Singh was ince accussed of cheating with Akbar by the people who resented his UNBREAKABLE BONDING with him. And so many people FALSELY testified against him that Akbar did not believe it but was highly puzzled and finally decided to visit Ajmer Sharif for help from Chisti Sahab. Remember that accussing Man Singh of cheating with Akbar is worst possible allegation...!!!!!!!..

4. Man Singh was also accussed of misbehaving with Muslims and an attempt was made to show him a bigot. But that attempt of the Ulemas and gang also failed. Of all the people, Man singh was the one who being FALSELY accused by his enemies MOST OF THE TIMES, as he was ALWAYS there with Akbar and present with him like his SHIELD. And, many people were jeolous of all this.

5. Before executing his brother Dara Shikoh, Aurangzeb levied such allegations on him, which i can't even write here. Dara Shikoh was said to be a SAINT.!!!!. And, in order to gather public support, Aurangzeb tried this move. CAN ONE IMAGINE A SAINT TO BE ACCUSSED OF SUCH ZILCH ALLEGATIONS..?..

6. An example is present in modern Indian History also. Sirajuddaulah, the ruler of Bengal, about the Black Hole Incident..

I have many examples, but cannot write all this from mobile. Infact, the higher your position in nobility, more is your image at stake.

I have given some examples which are similar to TM's case, some of which are from Akbar's time only.

Such accusations were used, in order to attain political gains AND TO HAVE PUBLIC SYMPATHY. People go to any level.

If anyone wants, i can give more examples from Mughal History itself, of similar FAKE charges. But then, i do not want to open the pages from history. Some INCIDENTS May leave a bad taste.

So, guys , i did NOT find it OTT or an attempt at the TM's image. Such events are part of Siyasat. History is replete with such examples.

Infact, see this as a positive event. This event will further create more belief in the mind of Jalal about TM. Afterall, one needs to test how deep the water runs...!!!!!!


Have a nice weekend. Enjoy the discussion. Dont be in pensive mood. M Trying my best to lifT the sagging spirits of my friends here...:)



Abhay - Do YOU consider Rukayya Begum a MORTAL being? When EVERY Rajvanshi can be accused but Rukayya Begum spared - am I free to draw my own conclusions? That Mugals CANNOT be shown disgraced here but it is FREE FOR ALL about Rajvanshi honor.

We SAW HOW MANY TIMES JODHA was accused and humiliated in DEK?

Please I would like to read your take on THIS!

REAL AKBAR treated both religions equally it is said - how ABOUT CVs giving the SAME treatment to BOTH Begums?

When AN INNOCENT Jodha was humiliated time and again WHY NOT RUKAYYA?

When WE ALL KNOW that this is NATKIYA RUPANTAR! Does that extend ONLY to Rajvanshis? Not to MUGALS?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ashpat

I don't know how you had patience to write an analysis for this blah episode.

Since I started watching JA, i have always watched the entire episode despite irritating repetitive scenes of Ruq, MA-adham etc but today I only watched Akdha scene and Jodha scene of thinking about gift.

When I had read the update and not watched the episode, I was mad and annoyed with Jodha that why did she not spend night with Jalal and rob us of anothe Akdha scene. But, after watching the scenes, I was not mad anymore.. When I saw the scene again, I noticed Jodha amost gave in to Jalal (when she says nahi nahi aapke bhet ke liye taiyaari karni hain- if u see her expression and tone of voice) but realized itand rushed out because she wanted to work on his gift. I actually liked the scene. There was a different feel to it. How Jalal was caressing her cheek and she realized the intention and then Jodha trying to go away, because she knows she won't be able to control herself and might get conviced and then Jodha says u're naughty and cunning and jalal says thanks for compliment and says when wife is sharp then husband has to be and tries to flirt again but she rushes out. When I saw Jodha worrying and serious about gifting something special to Jalal and discussing with her gang, It reconfirmed that she was worried about the gift. If she was doing nothing after coming from jalal's room then I might have been like woman, u could ahve been with Jalal rather than doing nothing. so, not mad anymore.


After reading, this, yes this was the reason, jodha not stopped, Actually, Cv should show, some scenes, to audience, Some decentful Rommance, they are not showing, so acception of audience increased, seeing, jalal wants to spent night with Jodha, because, one Year show has completed, or audience getting, ZERO, ROMMANCE, So its falut, Script Writers,
they are not connecting, betterment,of AKDHA scenes. sometimes good, But, these day, Script writers, now should do perfect job.

if Audience will get sufficent, scenes, for Akdha, then Audience will easily accept, jodha leaving, jalal Hozara.

So Supply of scenes should be increase.😆 😆, because,Akdha scenes, everone Wants.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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At maddy

i can understand ur anger. My comment was related to the present promo.

About Ruqs and Jodha, only CV's know the answer, as they go extremes in natkiya rupanter sometimes.
Will write more later. :)

cool down yar...:)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: preetgurti

am sick and tired of this placefew want jodha scenes comletely less coz they think its waste of timeso what abt repeated ruq shouting or maham cave visitswhy can't we blame right person I am not saying praise jodha always at least have little mercy in character and actressevery blame cant put on herwriters need to write good scenesdialogues need to be smartThey say do what they told to do and say what writers give then in script to say how come obly guns on her always be reasonableand story is not abt akbar the grtso those who want jodha out of picture its never gonna happenmoee that episode this place ruin the essence of show

hope this post donr take sanity of your thread and if it does that sorry

bashing a character or actress for a scene which is not in her hand is rude
There scenes written so purely

its not only jodha who keeps asking aap yahan shehnsha

whenever jodha enters his room his first question is same aap yaha kuch kaam tha

who write dialogues for them
but I see no one wipl say why jalal because there ppl see rajat not jalal and with jodha ppl see paridhi and dig out faults in every scene
for trp aunties both equally matter and loved by should I say jodha little more

Creative dont know what jj says it n Friday and next episode u see change in behaviour
actors speak what they told to speak

bashing character and actress will not gonna give anything

why jodha scenes should be less its not documentary of akbar its jodha akbar
u have to see her
Yesterday we saw jodha not giving up on competition and wanted to win for jalal its not good

if jalal wanna spend time with Jodha cant he take het out why meena bazaar
how can he spend time with here there but no one complaints on it because its jalal

but Jodha refusal makes a big issue and deserve a bashing of actress

I am not doing this comparison to divide all but showing truth

by bashing and laughing on character never helps
and always jodha
cvs writing and scripting is so shabby and poor that episode looks boring

cvs need tp write good dialogue a reasonably good scene can make fans go gaga over

its saying to many things spoil actual dish
they enter MahaChuchak without givng exit to maham , ruqaiyya , adham

jalal is so unaware of all those things
Without cloosing loopes they opened new ones this khichdi nake all things worse

episode was not so bad its the promo effect which makes us more mad furious

if jodha going away cant jalal stop her and they sit on bed and scene end there
I guess parijat wouldn't have any problem in that when cvs not writing good scene what can actor do

jodha goes and jalal smiles basically laugh weirdly

And plus scene was edited badly they showed in coming up jalal dialogue abt he would love if she stay and she smiles
lol it was not in actual episode if u emd leads jj scenes like this kuch samajh nhin ayega

I am tired of this forum baseless allegations

sorry for my venting on your thread if u want I will edit it



The kind of butchering of Jodha and Jalal characters done by CVs is just mind boggling. It is as if they RESENT Jodha and Jalal characters.

The scenes and dialogues given to them - aap yaha?
Jodha Begum aap iss wakt kuch kaam tha?

Jodha not agreeing to spend the night HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH PARIDI OR RAJAT - EVERYTHING to do with CVs and dialogue writers.

If Jodha had said yes and smiled - THEY NEED NOT HAVE SHOWN ANYTHING beyond that to tell us YES Jodha and Jalal spent the night together.

There was NO NEED to show anything to convey that beyond Jodha saying YES. So this has NOTHING to do with Paridhi BUT EVERYTHING to do with HOW CVs are treating and butchering Jodha's character.

What they are doing to Jalal!!!!!!!

Jalal says arranged MB so that he can spend time with Jodha???? HOW SPEND TIME WITH JODHA? By looking at HER amongst all the ladies present there?

I wish RT & PS PROTEST to somebody together about the butchering of Jodha and Jalal characters by the CVs and writers.

Do CVs think that viewers WATCH JodhaAkbar to watch Ruk, MA, Shehnaz, Adham, MahaC etc. etc.?

They seriously need to understand where their next PAY CHEQUE is coming from - and TREAT THE characters with RESPECT rather than this CONSTANT CONSTANT CONSTANT glorification of vamps and villains and ONLY showing them with BRAINS.

ALWAYS ONLY MA learns all the secrets? So how is ANYTHING changed in JA? Where is MA downfall? By Jalal ignoring HER?

The adoring treatment to Ruk character by writers and CVs and maybe the genius director is PROOF where their LOYALTIES are?!

If this Ruk was even a gray character then this will be easier to take, the Ruk at start of JA was a totally different and far more interesting character - if they had to turn her BLACK then atleast show justice meted out to her.

Preet - do not feel bad this forum has ALWAYS been bashing Paridhi - they can see no good in her, her acting or anything.

Well let me say it VERY CLEARLY I watch JodhaAkbar to watch THE HUMAN SIDE OF JODHA AND AKBAR - NOT to watch Akbar the Great. I watch FOR PARIDHI first and then Rajat.

I do NOT watch JA for ANY OTHER ACTOR/ACTRESS.

So as long as there is justice done to Jodha and Jalal characters I will watch - though the way the writers and dialogues are written - THE INTENTION IS EVERYTHING ELSE but treat Jalal and Jodha characters with respect.

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