Two vamps set against Jalal, three Begums set for Meena Bazaar! - Page 4

Mansi...good take dear...thr is nothing to write about yesterdays episode... Jo & jalal has become sadhu..better let them take sanyas.. MC gifting her daughter in marriage is like the same thing what raja bramhall did..he also gifted his daughter jodha to jalal in the name of marriage to save his kingdom..like ways MC is doing it to rule hindustan.. all selfish greedy parents..but those days these things were common.. coming to shenu maham track thr is nothing new ..this is wat happening in this show from the beginning..whr the cop goes and straightly informs the thief that he is a cop and is here to arrest the thief and punish the theif and takes the same thief's help to arrest the same thief... and ends up realising cop was fooled by the thief

Good take , Mansi... u have actually written, that was there to write abt the episode... nothing more from me...

Originally posted by: history_geek

Alright, so here's what i feel about new promo. Before writing i admit, i have not seen the promo. I have just read that, Shehnaaz accusses TM of outraging her modesty.?. Something like this.

The dissapointment among many friends here, lies in the fact that TM is a respected historical figure, and among the 9 gems of Akbar. Hence, the CV's should not experiment on him. :)

But, afterall, TM and the other gems are mortal beings.

Just see that ANYONE can accusse any person of ANYTHING even today...We can not tie the tongue of a person. If TM is being accussed, then this does NOT means he is guilty. Ab koi kuch bhi keh sakta hai. :(

Being a historical figure does not means , one can not be accussed. Infact, the people who are in power are the ones, who most likely to be accussed of such idiotic and baseless allegations. Remember, this is politics and we do have historical evidences where such charges were used, to have strong hold in the Siyasat. Few examples...

1. Razia Sultana was accussed in 1240, of having EMA and polyandry, by the Ulemas because they wanted to dethone her from the Takht of Delhi and sully her image in masses, because the masses supported her. So, you see, here the ''ULEMAS'' levied such a zilch charge against a lady. Ulemas are supposed to be pious people, when they can go to such an extent, what about any other person.?.

2. Birbal was once accussed of a charge which involved similar matter, as in the present TM case. That time even the Ulemas conspired against Birbal as they were jeolous of his closeness with Akbar, and backed this idiotic charge, and even spread this message like wildfire in the Sultanate to sully Birbal's image. Though that allegation held no ground. Dont want to write more on this.

3. Man Singh was ince accussed of cheating with Akbar by the people who resented his UNBREAKABLE BONDING with him. And so many people FALSELY testified against him that Akbar did not believe it but was highly puzzled and finally decided to visit Ajmer Sharif for help from Chisti Sahab. Remember that accussing Man Singh of cheating with Akbar is worst possible allegation...!!!!!!!..

4. Man Singh was also accussed of misbehaving with Muslims and an attempt was made to show him a bigot. But that attempt of the Ulemas and gang also failed. Of all the people, Man singh was the one who being FALSELY accused by his enemies MOST OF THE TIMES, as he was ALWAYS there with Akbar and present with him like his SHIELD. And, many people were jeolous of all this.

5. Before executing his brother Dara Shikoh, Aurangzeb levied such allegations on him, which i can't even write here. Dara Shikoh was said to be a SAINT.!!!!. And, in order to gather public support, Aurangzeb tried this move. CAN ONE IMAGINE A SAINT TO BE ACCUSSED OF SUCH ZILCH ALLEGATIONS..?..

6. An example is present in modern Indian History also. Sirajuddaulah, the ruler of Bengal, about the Black Hole Incident..

I have many examples, but cannot write all this from mobile. Infact, the higher your position in nobility, more is your image at stake.

I have given some examples which are similar to TM's case, some of which are from Akbar's time only.

Such accusations were used, in order to attain political gains AND TO HAVE PUBLIC SYMPATHY. People go to any level.

If anyone wants, i can give more examples from Mughal History itself, of similar FAKE charges. But then, i do not want to open the pages from history. Some INCIDENTS May leave a bad taste.

So, guys , i did NOT find it OTT or an attempt at the TM's image. Such events are part of Siyasat. History is replete with such examples.

Infact, see this as a positive event. This event will further create more belief in the mind of Jalal about TM. Afterall, one needs to test how deep the water runs...!!!!!!


Have a nice weekend. Enjoy the discussion. Dont be in pensive mood. M Trying my best to lifT the sagging spirits of my friends here...:)

Mansi I love your updates and a silent reader and am glad that even when the episodes are not to our expectations you still come am with such beautiful analysis. 👏

Tempers are high, emotions are wreck, and most of them are all because Jodha said NO to Jalal. This is so annoying re-occurrence. The character Jodha can't just jump up on her own and start romancing the character Jalal nor can the character Jalal too; if the Creative team doesn't what their characters to be romancing at this point it will definitely not happen. In fact I don't know what the hell CV team made Jodha go there for in the first place (i mean Jalal's room) if they are not going to give us what we want. Crap😡

The creative team lack romantic and seductive ideas. 😡They could have made Jodha go to Jalal and seduce him to tell her indirectly what he would love as a gift instead of send her there to advocate for the other wives left out of the MB. I can only think that maybe what they wanted to put across was that this is the first time Jodha was willingly and eagerly to participate in the MB as previous ones she did so only because Hamida encourage her or asked her to, but they failed because we want our akdha to be together and we don't want NO' damn it Creative team pull up your socks and give us a second SR.

Nicemandy,i read your post first than watched the episode,looks like namak kam hai,seriously yeh sab kiya ha,shehnaaz is just torture and this mah chu,oh god shes the worst thing i have seen she looks like a gundee than a queen,and the less said about jodha the better Jallu the good husband i dont which husband wil lahgh off his wife like that,btw nice post i do read it and look forward do so each time

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Abhay, I understand that you are trying to be positive here...I also agree that not all things need to be taken seriously...but there are exceptions.

The most important thing I noticed about your post is that you didn't mention TM being falsely accused...I am assuming that you haven't read or found anything on him...so far...Am I right?

Now answer my question...what will you say to a friend or a loved one who is falsely accused of rape? would you be able to tell him that dont worry , Man Singh, Birbal and Razia Sultan were also falsely accused of serious crimes? If you do so, I can bet that the person and his well wishers will not take it well...So, just because a person is dead, his honor means nothing? it can be shredded by any greedy daily show maker? had TM been my ancestor, I would have filed a defamation lawsuit on Ekta and company by now...if his descendents are not alive or are unaware of this, does it make it right?

I understand that such incidents happen in siyasat...why not show the ones that REALLY happened in siyasat...like MA and her son being punished and going to heaven(or hell) within a few months of JJ wedding...why only cooked up negativity against positive characters...someone out there is a greedy sadist...accept it.

And this is not just about Todarmal...we as a country are going through a crisis...sexual assault against women has become a huge problem...most people want strong measures against the criminals...some changes have been made...some need to be made... and some need to be implemented sincerely...but there is a group(a powerful one ) that denies the the exponential rise in sex crimes and makes a mockery of the victims ...their best defense is that most of these cases are false...women use it as a tool to get something in return...when all this is going on, is this the right time to show an evil women falsely accusing an innocent man of rape on a very popular TV show...I certainly wont enjoy watching it...and I am sure most women and their families who have ever seen a victim of a sex crime being mocked, won't either...Yes, the "dented painted" mentality population will certainly enjoy watching it while commenting ..."yeh to hamesha se hota raha hai"

I loved what AKT.JA wrote on another thread...sums up pretty much what I want to say on this...I am copying it here...hope he/she doesnt mind it...

" Certain things should be unacceptable as routine tools of entertainment, profit and fiction. For example, civilized world has already agreed on child p.o.r.nography as belonging to that category. It is about time we took a similar stand against trivializing rape. For reasons already articulated by so many here, at least India owes it to herself.Yes rapes happen, yes false accusations happen, and when relevant such happenings can be reported in appropriate manner. However, just like child abuse, this should not be accepted as a routine tool of entertainment, profit and fiction."

hi cleo,

you and maddy have perceived my post on a different tangent. Maddy included Ruqayya Begum in her response (on which i did not want to carry on, as she was already in a blast mode, waiting for her to cool down..) and here i am being asked about what if any of my friends were acussed.?. In between all this, no one noticed WHY and in what regard i made my post..Finally, trying to explain my point..

My post was made in a different regard. i made my post owing to the following reason...

" after the promo was out, it was being said yesterday that TM is one of the 9 gems, HENCE, he should not be shown like this. "

The clause given was >>> TM being one of the 9 Gems, and hence he can NOT be accused.. In response, i made this comment. that EVEN THE 9 GEMS of Akbar can be accused of such an event.!. As an example, i mentioned Birbal.

Coming to your question. > i do not know entire history, and do not know if TM could ever have been accused of such a charge. But, i STRONGLY believe that TM was not accused of such type of charge ever by ANYONE. This, i am saying from my reading on TM . But, having said all this, let me tell the other side of story, i ALSO believed PREVIOUSLY that BIRBAL also was clear of any such accusation. But, my BELIEF instantly went down drains, when i read such a stuff, on him about his acussation. Though that accusation was ALSO a FALSE one. So, how can one say that something could have happened and something could not.?. It takes JUST one LINE of a historical text to change the BELIEF into DIS-BELIEF.

Tell me, in future if they show Birbal also, being accused like this. I am sure that such posts will be made... (don't know about others) but I know that happened .!!!!!!!!!!.

Now, i have marked my reasons above , that why i made that post. My comment was made on the ""historical feasibilty"" of such a promo. No where i said taht such accusations can be or should be taken lightly. You've brought the PRESENT time scenario in the world, in this discussion. For that , i would like to make my stand clear that > I, for one, SIMPLY HATE this 4-letter word --> "R*PE" , so much so that i did not EVEN use this WORD in my writeup, instead i used the term > "outraging modesty". And, i am against glorification or justification of any such acts. Recently, Adham Khan was shown doing such an act (as he misbehaved with Shehnaaz).. Agreed, there may not be any such character like Shehnaaz in history, with whom Adham misbehaved, but there were MANY others. And, i DID mention in my previous post, opening all events from history about all the characters may leave a bad taste here. And, better such things remain buried. Hence, i wrote only few events quite carefully.!.

But, my post talked ONLY about " feasibilty " of such an event. The argument put up after the promo was a "subjective" one, dealing with "HISTORICAL figures, with special reference to Akbar's 9 Gems". And my response was JUST a humble clarification for that argument, that EVEN the 9 GEMS can be accused.!!!!!!.. Now the topic has been totally changed, in present discussion.

Why would i give an example of Razia, Man Singh or Birbal to anyone else.?. My friend would not be any historical figure. :) I understand, and i have seen , such a clause being used to defame people in real lives. Also, seen/heard, observed such victims. I whole heartedly humbly appreciate your views which you have written after seeing and observing this World MUCH more than me, and I know you must have dealt with such cases, but i also know about this, coming from a family of Administrators, Lawyers, Doctors, i have seen/heard such events from VERY close quarters (and i feel equally bad for them), and i totally deplore these acts. BUT, Just see, why i gave those examples.?. I have repeated my reason many times now, >>> BEING A HISTORICAL FIGURE DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN NOT BE ACCUSED, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED. My comment was NOT a " JUSTIFICATION " to such an act, but an answer to that clause of being a historical character.!!. PLEASE do not mix up the 2 things... I am not just writing this, but i have raised voice against this, written articles on this issue of R*PE , in my REAL LIFE. But, here my reply was on a different perspective.

Yes, the show can focus on MA and Adham's death. And, should have shown them dead, after 4 months of JJ wedding. But, why are they showing them alive till now.?. I have a reason here also. In Tabqa-at-i-Akbari, the date of Death of Adham and MA is given to be in April and May 1563. Going by that account can we now, get an "excuse" or explanation of seeing MA and Adham so much.?. More shocking are the tales of MA being alive later also. Though, the world accepts Abul Fazl as an authority here, and places MA's death in 1562 only, and i also believe this, but giving you another side of the coin. MA was SO VICIOUS that one can't imagine here. The serial has shown MA as some one who loved Jalal. But, i strongly oppose this. It was always Jiji Anga. Neither MA gave her milk to Jalal, as shown in the serial. Nor she saved him when Akbar was placed in front of the Canons in Kabul. She was also behind the Elephant Attack on Akbar in 1556..!!!!!...She was also behind Bairam's assasination.. Her servants attacked Akbar, owing to their faithfulness to her.. I have said certain events from history should be allowed to remain at rest..!..

Recently, "scratching" etc. , a Mughal Emperor was being shown as an attempt at glorifying Romance.?. On the other hand, when Jodha pushed Jalal via her "Dhakka", that was deplored as attack on Emperor's prestige. double Standards.?.There was dissent when it was shown that, Mughal Begums were drunk and had party. Also, when Akbar decided a case about a Man and his 2 wives, then also it was questioned that what crap is being shown.?. An Emperor should not be shown like this..How many of us know that Akbar never HEARD such a case in private hearing.?. Also, there was a recent question by one of my friends that any bandi could be killed in the harem and no one came to know about that.?. What was the Emperor doing.?. Yes, many times i do not like the portrayal of Jodha and Jalal and fell quite irritated, but i do not question EVERYTHING in every episode, too. I kept quiet as such events happened, in the harem, and did not find it a point to write on that and explain to anyone. What all happened in the Harem and what all we are being shown is a very " dignified " version. I am writing all this today, as i am being questioned here. Can write on more Harem events, and how the so-called Royal Queens " behaved " with others as many feel so, but stop for now, or Mansi will come with her Stick here :)

Reading your well written words is always a pleasure for me, for they show the maturity in it. Saw your post just now, so a late response. What you say is TRUE but my post was a different issue altogether. :)

Originally posted by: history_geek

hi cleo,

you and maddy have perceived my post on a different tangent. Maddy included Ruqayya Begum in her response (on which i did not want to carry on, as she was already in a blast mode, waiting for her to cool down..) and here i am being asked about what if any of my friends were acussed.?. I between all this, no one noticed WHY and in what regard i made my post..Finally, trying to explain my point..

My post was made in a different regard. i made my post owing to the following reason...

" after the promo was out, it was being said yesterday that TM is one of the 9 gems, HENCE, he should not be shown like this. "

The clause given was >>> TM being one of the 9 Gems, and hence he can NOT be accused.. In response, i made this comment. that EVEN THE 9 GEMS of Akbar can be accused of such an event.!. As an example, i mentioned Birbal.

Coming to your question. > i do not know entire history, and do not know if TM could ever have been accused of such a charge. But, i STRONGLY believe that TM was not accused of such type of charge ever by ANYONE. This, i am saying from my reading on TM . But, having said all this, let me tell the other side of story, i ALSO believed PREVIOUSLY that BIRBAL also was clear of any such accusation. But, my BELIEF instantly went down drains, when i read such a stuff, on him about his acussation. Though that accusation was ALSO a FALSE one. So, how can one say that something could have happened and something could not.?. It takes JUST one LINE of a historical text to change the BELIEF into DIS-BELIEF.

Tell me, in future if they show Birbal also, being accused like this. I am sure that such posts will be made... (don't know about others) but I know that happened .!!!!!!!!!!.

Now, i have marked my reasons above , that why i made that post. My comment was made on the ""historical feasibilty"" of such a promo. No where i said taht such accusations can be or should be taken lightly. You've brought the PRESENT time scenario in the world, in this discussion. For that , i would like to make my stand clear that > I, for one, SIMPLY HATE this 4-letter word --> "R*PE" , so much so that i did not EVEN use this WORD in my writeup, instead i used the term > "outraging modesty". And, i am against glorification or justification of any such acts. Recently, Adham Khan was shown doing such an act (as he misbehaved with Shehnaaz).. Agreed, there may not be any such character like Shehnaaz in history, with whom Adham misbehaved, but there were MANY others. And, i DID mention in my previous post, opening all events from history about all the characters may leave a bad taste here. And, better such things remain buried. Hence, i wrote only few events quite carefully.!.

But, my post talked ONLY about " feasibilty " of such an event. The argument put up after the promo was a "subjective" one, dealing with "HISTORICAL figures, with special reference to Akbar's 9 Gems". And my response was JUST a humble clarification for that argument, that EVEN the 9 GEMS can be accused.!!!!!!.. Now the topic has been totally changed, in present discussion.

Why would i give an example of Razia, Man Singh or Birbal to anyone else.?. My friend would not be any historical figure. :) I understand, and i have seen , such a clause being used to defame people in real lives. Also, seen/heard, observed such victims. I whole heartedly humbly appreciate your views which you have written after seeing and observing this World MUCH more than me, and I know you must have dealt with such cases, but i also know about this, coming from a family of Administrators, Lawyers, Doctors, i have seen/heard such events from VERY close quarters (and i feel equally bad for them), and i totally deplore these acts. BUT, Just see, why i gave those examples.?. I have repeated my reason many times now, >>> BEING A HISTORICAL FIGURE DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN NOT BE ACCUSED, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED. My comment was NOT a " JUSTIFICATION " to such an act, but an answer to that clause of being a historical character.!!. PLEASE do not mix up the 2 things... I am not just writing this, but i have raised voice against this, written articles on this issue of R*PE , in my REAL LIFE. But, here my reply was on a different perspective.

Yes, the show can focus on MA and Adham's death. And, should have shown them dead, after 4 months of JJ wedding. But, why are they showing them alive till now.?. I have a reason here also. In Tabqa-at-i-Akbari, the date of Death of Adham and MA is given to be in April and May 1563. Going by that account can we now, get an "excuse" or explanation of seeing MA and Adham so much.?. More shocking are the tales of MA being alive later also. Though, the world accepts Abul Fazl as an authority here, and places MA's death in 1562 only, and i also believe this, but giving you another side of the coin. MA was SO VICIOUS that one can't imagine here. The serial has shown MA as some one who loved Jalal. But, i strongly oppose this. It was always Jiji Anga. Neither MA gave her milk to Jalal, as shown in the serial. Nor she saved him when Akbar was placed in front of the Canons in Kabul. She was also behind the Elephant Attack on Akbar in 1556..!!!!!...She was also behind Bairam's assasination.. Her servants attacked Akbar, owing to their faithfulness to her.. I have said certain events from history should be allowed to remain at rest..!..

There was dissent when it was shown that, Mughal Begums were drunk and had party. Also, when Akbar decided a case about a Man and his 2 wives, then also it was questioned that what crap is being shown.?. An Emperor should not be shown like this..How many of us know that Akbar never HEARD such a case in private hearing.?.Recently, "scratching" a Mughal Emperor was being shown as an attempt at glorifying Romance.?. Also, there was a recent question by one of my friends that any bandi could be killed in the harem and no one came to know about that.?. What was the Emperor doing.?. Yes, many times i do not like the portrayal of Jodha and Jalal and fell quite irritated, but i do not question EVERYTHING in every episode, too. I kept quiet as such events happened, in the harem, and did not find it a point to write on that and explain to anyone. What all happened in the Harem and what all we are being shown is a very " dignified " version. I am writing all this today, as i am being questioned here. Can write on more Harem events, and how the so-called Royal Queens " behaved " with others as many feel so, but stop for now, or Mansi will come with her Stick here :)

Reading your well written words is always a pleasure for me, for they show the maturity in it. Saw your post just now, so a late response. What you say is TRUE but my post was a different issue altogether. :)

,

Mansi u know better not to hv any expectations from the show and just watch it our of sheer habbit and then mayb we will not hv any complaints or doubts 😆.. I understand your frustration but then this is how Ekta do with her daily soaps once main consummation is over ...

The show will b dragged with lots of nonsense now ... first fake pregnency twist which went all phuss and Ruqaiyya is still roaming freely like a queen and now we hv new promo of Todarmal accused of molesting Shehnaz which too I m sure might b misleading or will go phuss as again they r playing with historical characters .. On top of that Mahachuchak is coming too and she has a daughter whom she seems to b using like a piece of flesh errr 🤔

Meena Bazar idea is good but I m not sure if I m in favour of yet another Meena Bazar scenario .. we had it too many times in the show .. Also whats pinching me is Ruqaiyya still enjoying the status of Jalal's khaas begum and counted in special 3 even after the whole pregnency fiasco .. I know Jalal has forgiven her but still I expected Jalal to keep his distance from her after she made mockery of pregnency but well it seems CVs hv forgotten the whole chapter and just wants us to move on as well with 3 khaas begums doing the Meena bazar 😳

Mahachuchak and Jalal's war can b interesting and finally we might hv some real action in the show .. lets see .. wonder what purpose that daughter of her will survive .. will she b used in future by her mother to seduce Jalal as well ... 🤔

Coming to Shehnaz and Maham scene , aahhh I never thought Shehnaz will b so dumb to trust Maham who was not even faithful to Jalal which I m sure Shehnaz is well aware now that she is staying in that Mahal ... How on earth she blabbers every single detail to Maham 😕 .. Now Maham again has upperhand and will use Shehnaz like a weapon against Jalal-Jodha .. Hope someone shows the truth to Shehnaz and opens her eyes because she has it in her to remain positive and not become another vamp in the making ... lets see ...

Overall too many tracks r running .. hope CVs get a grip on all the happenings together ...

Originally posted by: history_geek

hi cleo,

you and maddy have perceived my post on a different tangent. Maddy included Ruqayya Begum in her response (on which i did not want to carry on, as she was already in a blast mode, waiting for her to cool down..) and here i am being asked about what if any of my friends were acussed.?. In between all this, no one noticed WHY and in what regard i made my post..Finally, trying to explain my point..

My post was made in a different regard. i made my post owing to the following reason...

" after the promo was out, it was being said yesterday that TM is one of the 9 gems, HENCE, he should not be shown like this. "

The clause given was >>> TM being one of the 9 Gems, and hence he can NOT be accused.. In response, i made this comment. that EVEN THE 9 GEMS of Akbar can be accused of such an event.!. As an example, i mentioned Birbal.

Coming to your question. > i do not know entire history, and do not know if TM could ever have been accused of such a charge. But, i STRONGLY believe that TM was not accused of such type of charge ever by ANYONE. This, i am saying from my reading on TM . But, having said all this, let me tell the other side of story, i ALSO believed PREVIOUSLY that BIRBAL also was clear of any such accusation. But, my BELIEF instantly went down drains, when i read such a stuff, on him about his acussation. Though that accusation was ALSO a FALSE one. So, how can one say that something could have happened and something could not.?. It takes JUST one LINE of a historical text to change the BELIEF into DIS-BELIEF.

Tell me, in future if they show Birbal also, being accused like this. I am sure that such posts will be made... (don't know about others) but I know that happened .!!!!!!!!!!.

Now, i have marked my reasons above , that why i made that post. My comment was made on the ""historical feasibilty"" of such a promo. No where i said taht such accusations can be or should be taken lightly. You've brought the PRESENT time scenario in the world, in this discussion. For that , i would like to make my stand clear that > I, for one, SIMPLY HATE this 4-letter word --> "R*PE" , so much so that i did not EVEN use this WORD in my writeup, instead i used the term > "outraging modesty". And, i am against glorification or justification of any such acts. Recently, Adham Khan was shown doing such an act (as he misbehaved with Shehnaaz).. Agreed, there may not be any such character like Shehnaaz in history, with whom Adham misbehaved, but there were MANY others. And, i DID mention in my previous post, opening all events from history about all the characters may leave a bad taste here. And, better such things remain buried. Hence, i wrote only few events quite carefully.!.

But, my post talked ONLY about " feasibilty " of such an event. The argument put up after the promo was a "subjective" one, dealing with "HISTORICAL figures, with special reference to Akbar's 9 Gems". And my response was JUST a humble clarification for that argument, that EVEN the 9 GEMS can be accused.!!!!!!.. Now the topic has been totally changed, in present discussion.

Why would i give an example of Razia, Man Singh or Birbal to anyone else.?. My friend would not be any historical figure. :) I understand, and i have seen , such a clause being used to defame people in real lives. Also, seen/heard, observed such victims. I whole heartedly humbly appreciate your views which you have written after seeing and observing this World MUCH more than me, and I know you must have dealt with such cases, but i also know about this, coming from a family of Administrators, Lawyers, Doctors, i have seen/heard such events from VERY close quarters (and i feel equally bad for them), and i totally deplore these acts. BUT, Just see, why i gave those examples.?. I have repeated my reason many times now, >>> BEING A HISTORICAL FIGURE DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN NOT BE ACCUSED, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED. My comment was NOT a " JUSTIFICATION " to such an act, but an answer to that clause of being a historical character.!!. PLEASE do not mix up the 2 things... I am not just writing this, but i have raised voice against this, written articles on this issue of R*PE , in my REAL LIFE. But, here my reply was on a different perspective.

Yes, the show can focus on MA and Adham's death. And, should have shown them dead, after 4 months of JJ wedding. But, why are they showing them alive till now.?. I have a reason here also. In Tabqa-at-i-Akbari, the date of Death of Adham and MA is given to be in April and May 1563. Going by that account can we now, get an "excuse" or explanation of seeing MA and Adham so much.?. More shocking are the tales of MA being alive later also. Though, the world accepts Abul Fazl as an authority here, and places MA's death in 1562 only, and i also believe this, but giving you another side of the coin. MA was SO VICIOUS that one can't imagine here. The serial has shown MA as some one who loved Jalal. But, i strongly oppose this. It was always Jiji Anga. Neither MA gave her milk to Jalal, as shown in the serial. Nor she saved him when Akbar was placed in front of the Canons in Kabul. She was also behind the Elephant Attack on Akbar in 1556..!!!!!...She was also behind Bairam's assasination.. Her servants attacked Akbar, owing to their faithfulness to her.. I have said certain events from history should be allowed to remain at rest..!..

Recently, "scratching" etc. , a Mughal Emperor was being shown as an attempt at glorifying Romance.?. On the other hand, when Jodha pushed Jalal via her "Dhakka", that was deplored as attack on Emperor's prestige. double Standards.?.There was dissent when it was shown that, Mughal Begums were drunk and had party. Also, when Akbar decided a case about a Man and his 2 wives, then also it was questioned that what crap is being shown.?. An Emperor should not be shown like this..How many of us know that Akbar never HEARD such a case in private hearing.?. Also, there was a recent question by one of my friends that any bandi could be killed in the harem and no one came to know about that.?. What was the Emperor doing.?. Yes, many times i do not like the portrayal of Jodha and Jalal and fell quite irritated, but i do not question EVERYTHING in every episode, too. I kept quiet as such events happened, in the harem, and did not find it a point to write on that and explain to anyone. What all happened in the Harem and what all we are being shown is a very " dignified " version. I am writing all this today, as i am being questioned here. Can write on more Harem events, and how the so-called Royal Queens " behaved " with others as many feel so, but stop for now, or Mansi will come with her Stick here :)

Reading your well written words is always a pleasure for me, for they show the maturity in it. Saw your post just now, so a late response. What you say is TRUE but my post was a different issue altogether. :)

I sometimes don't understand ,what ideologies Balaji Telefilms have.In serials they show everything very goody goody Sanskari and in films like dirty picture,ragini mms they show opposite.Why do they have exactly opposite ideas for two different mediums of entertainment.Look Rajashri has made films and tv series too but they stick to their principles of family oriented stories.Same we have big production houses like Yash Raj and Dharma and they produce different genre of films but they never stooped too low .