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Posted: 11 years ago
#11
Hi Mandy !!!
didn't watch epi ...

nor I mind proper class of ruku not dragging her to DEK n slapping her as this is insult go emperor himself

BUT ... A BIG BUT...

why every one should punish except jodha and her dear ones...

if we go some days back...what was exactly jalal doing... playing with ruku emotion his duties towards her very insensitively ... he was in love doesn't mean to ignore and demean his life long friend ad first wife who is with him from their child hood...

I always said in these type turmoil from which ruku was suffering

3 things happen

- to plot evil and do harm physically to others in utter desperation

- do follies in utter frustration
or

- harm them selves in utter depression

...

ruku didn't harm physically to any one but at the night of ja jo first anniversary and the big jashan for no reason like empire had got her heir not the one weddings anniversary of emperor from his many wedding...
ruku was extremely frustrated and fumed tht she blabbered ...that jalal should punish ...

They are showing tht ruku has no feeling of motherhood.(although its strange to plot for a woman who lost her unborn child not less than before ayear) but assume krne mae kia jata hae

now jodha is most important for him

then to be a father,

from which emotion ruku played brutally

but what was important for ruku

Jalal ...only jalal ...and his time , her importance in his life...


in his no love phase for jodha ...hardly there was single episode where JJ didn't meet but ruku had her own importance ...but now what exactly was he doing before this FP folly of rukku ... it was like ruku doesn't exist in his life..it was eating her like deemak (termite) or making her juwala...
.

off course she is not heroin ...so CV didn't show her praying to god to get back her husband attention in her lonely life or grace her with proper face down lines to shake her husband cum friend come out from his Blindness in pyar ka nasha

and here we are
with disgraced ruku, heart broken jalal, and again jodha begum with her shoulder...although this shoulder was not availale at time of maham fall down but to make end of rukayya sultan begum brutally ...now her kandha is here to soak his royal tears

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: apsara310882

Wonderful post.
Nicely discussed the new phase in jalal's life.
Of course, some where i feel sympathetic towards ruq also. Without thinking of the consequences she enacted a play whose climax she very well knew. But her emotions took over her logic. Now she has become a disgusting insect in the eyes of jalal. Any one to fall from the high regard to low level in the eyes of their beloved is the worst which could happen to any individual.

Its not jalal's mistake to fall in love for jodha or vice versa. Ruq was always his best friend and would always be forever. She herself said that after jalal started bringing more begums in the harem, they became more of friends that man and wife. Then why so much jealousy for jodha alone. She always thought that she can behave in her attitude as long as jalal was on her side. Her longer head attitude, her pride of being his first wife and BEK, her brilliance and intelligence, her audha security, was all driving factors of her to stoop low to play with every one's feeling.

This is the utter consequences of child marriage. They could become friends, but never man and wife. Love of a friend is different from love of a wife. Ruq has to accept the bitter fact that she could become his best friend, but never his heart.



Yup! She can NEVER EVER become his wife. She is ( or was) his best friend.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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indeeda new begining,, new beginging of akdha relationship,, new beging of actuall mallika-e- hindustan jodha bai
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: vijisridhar

Very beautifully articulated.

Yes.. its the "natakiya rupanthar" of Ruqaiyya thats hurting.

She was his childhood friend, sweetheart and wife. She very well knows the polygamous relationship that Jalal is / had been pursuing. Thats how Emperors / Kings are.

So, for me personally, this drama seems unrealistic, coz, I dont' think Ruqaiyya was "audha queen" in the real sense at all; She never had insecurity with Jalal; was always respected and treated on par of his important Queens, eventhough, she couldnt provide a hire to the throne. Akbar was known to have given lots of importance and respect for women during his reign and Ruqs was not eliminated at all. May be he did not speak to her for sometime, how long, I dont' know. But, he had done that to many family members.

Yes.. she may have had skirmishes in the royal zenana, her self-esteem could have become low due to lack of motherhood - an important part of a married woman's life, even in today's world. We can imagine the pressure she was in 500 years back.

But, for the show, as discussed earlier too, this is Jodha - Akbar story, so they are the center point of the narration. Keeping in mind today's mindset of "monogamy" , the CVs are going the favorite route of making the other wife / wives as the vamp or gray-shaded. They may lose TRPs if they show Akbar sleeping around as, as per history, even Rukhsar Begum and some queens and concubines were his favorites, with whom he spent time too.

Viji



very well written viji..! i too feel that this time the NR's boundaries have stretched too far!..this show being based on the story of jodha akbar i doubt if they will focus much on jalal's relationships with other wives or concubines..the khaas begums will stay in focus especially jodha, and i also agree that ruk might have taken a back seat in akbar's life because not being able to give heir to the mughal sultanat as it was a huge thing those days..even maynawati was not happy to hear ruk being pregnant initially as she knew what that means..!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As always very well written and thought provoking post.

Yesterday, was truly a heart-breaking day for Jalal- I don't know what would have been worse Maham Anga's betrayal or this.

I do not think the fall of Ruq in Jalal's life was necessary for Jodha to become Jalal's ardhangani. She could have remained the friend. But I think the CVs decided to take the easy way out with the natkiye roopantar

I have begun to hope for two things:
(1) Like MA I would like Ruqs to get a stage to express her insecurities and fears and what drove her to do that; I don't want Jalal to forgive her but I want him to understand the issue he always skirted around
(2) The CVs redeem Ruqs- maybe by having her save Jalal, Jodha, or their baby's life
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: shiningways2407

This time NR broke all records of crappiness. I m happy that this crap ended but sad becoz of jalal's plight. Somewhere jalal is also responsible for Ruk's follies, though he never expected that she will stoop such low. Had jalal maitained balance b/w ruk n jo then probably this would not had happened. But what we got was simple ignorance from jalal's side as soon as he found his DIL. No doubt that Ruks is not heroine of this show,but she is jalal's cousin,childhood frnd 1st wife n ofcourse his responsiblity. ,how can jalal ignore all these 4. N rukkaiya should not have selected this path of getting care of jalal which mocked at motherhood n longings of jalal as father. Rest '' NATKIYA RUPANTAR KI JAI HO''. I wish cvs hade made Ruks character in b/w jo n salima.



yes, jalal did ignore her after he found his dil and i kinda did not like it, he should have kept balance between the two..i was one time discussing with a cousin of mine regarding the jealousy among relatives and healthy competition, she said something very good which i still remember to this day..she said being jealous is a part of human nature but using this jealousy to pull the other down is wrong..but to use the same jealousy as a strength in healthy competition is not wrong..in doing so one rises to new heights and also does not waste her/his time and energy in pulling the other down..here is where ruk faltered..she tried to pull jodha down along with her and in doing so she hurt herself and jalal more than she could ever hurt anyone!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: alapi

Mandy yar i nevr wanted the cvs to characterise ruqu this way bt 😡
now all i want is dat jalal shud vent out his anger nd hurt infront of ruqu nd not jodha begum coz atleast nw he need to make her realize how much imp she was to him nd wat unrepairable damage she has caused to their relationship coz of her insecurities ...coz this is the tym nd atleast once i want him to speak to his childhood friend ruqaiya,his 1st wife ruqaiya nd only his ruqaiya...
once he shud talk as jalal talking to his ruqaiya...
nd plz i dont want jodha to be pregnant plz
pta ni ye cvs pagal ho gye h kya??i jst dont want to see this nw at this moment...
nd i really hated it wen aftr seeing dat ruqs didnt vomit hw meanly he said dat he will spend more tym wid her🤢cvs hv really lost their brain while showing all this bullshit natkiye rupantr😡
🤢



i can understand your frustration but there is nothing much we can do in terms of NR as they are not in our control!..i think he will confront ruk in private and as per precap jodha might bump in to ruk's hojra for something and then she might see the whole scenario and that is why asking what happened and jalal took her into some other room to vent out what happened..as for jodha being pregnant i do not think it will be shown that soon..there are still few tracks to be wrapped up before another one starts!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Donjas

Good discussion. I think Ruqu will use the isolation and ignoring by others to do some introspection. The shock of what she has done and the disgust of Jalal will soften the hard edges of her personality. We know that Ruq will rehabilitated, let's hope that when it is done it a a humbled Ruq who treats others with respect.


By the end of this serial, I believe Ruq will behave more like Salima than the jealous Daayan she is now.



i too feel that her character will be slowly redeemed from here after..as she has already hit the rock bottom all she can do is now rise from there!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

Wow very very beautifully put

If we forget whose fans we are and look at it from a humanistic angle you are so right

I wish I was online from laptop so I could write more



thanks dear! would love to hear more from you when u get chance😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sam_0506

Very nicely articulated post Mandy. 👏.

One could feel Jalal's pain. The credit is entirely Rajat's. He's like a rainbow of emotions, disbelief, shock, rage. Just fantastic.

Ruqaiyya has dug her own grave. I simply can't relate to this Ruqaiyya. Initially she was a true grey character. Of late she's become monotonous. No new shades at all. Frankly the way she betrayed Jalal was appalling. As you said she is his bestie. She knewhim. Per her own pproclamation knew his brain. Hence it goes without saying that she knew his weaknesses. And she used that very weaknesses of his. And for what, just so she could create some distance between him and Jodha? Not for a moment she thought about him. About how it'd hurt him. It was all about her, her lobe, her place in his life, and God help us, her audha. Jalal has moved on on his path and found a true love with Jodha. But never did he say that Jodha has replaced Ruqaiyya. Neither by words nor by actions. It's perfectly understandable for Ruqs to have insecurity but it is NOT acceptable for her to cause emotional destruction in others' luves because of it.

Sorry for this longish reply. I'm typing from phone. But your post is so beautiful that I couldn't resist posting. 😊



thank you sam😊..she did not realize that in the heat of separating jodha from jalal she will eventually hurt jalal the most..i could have understood if she had some plans of miscarriage but none of that was shown..or maybe she could have when the right time came but her bad luck that she got caught before she could further put her plan in action!

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