First half bad but second half makes up! - Page 8

Originally posted by: chocobrownies

Hi Mansi!! 🤗

lovely post with brilliant take..! 👍🏼

I loved ur analysis on three zone characters based on ruku, JoJa..

I find yesterday's episode fine becoz for past episodes getting intolerable torture from ruku so I too starts to pacify her screeching tantrums... Worst part of the episode Jajo's guilty. actions and Jalal standing like an idol.. I couldn't get his mindset why he can't raise his voice when her towards Jo looks horrible.. And I couldn't witness his transition mode in presence of both.. Just I enjoyed watching second part of the episode... No matter when it comes to love everything becomes one...Last part looks absolutely divine, soulful, I loved each gestures of them..I mean tired of scribbling about ruku's character.. waiting for magazine dramatic exposure...😳

hey mansi... great 'goodbye' analysis today...
the fact that you have written a 'goodbye' post dedicated to ruks makes me feel relieved that now bhandaphod is nearby... by this Friday atleast...

but I don't have much to say about ruks behaviour yesterday... as it is, as soon as she interrupted Jo and jalal, my fickle little brain found my phone much more interesting... and I'm afraid I missed much of the scene...
ooh but ruks voice has that quality that you cannot ignore her and so bits and pieces did register in my brains.. like screechy insults to jodha, and the way she broke the sacred thread... grr... someone lock this woman up...
but this part of her tantrum stood out... when she said that I'm not worried that you were attacked but that no one told me. why did you take this Hak away from me!
it's still all about hak and audha for her... she still was ranting all BEK, first begum... oof! *facepalm*
anyways, your green analysis has done more justice to this scene than whatever I'd write... great job !

coming too aadham maham scene... what really grabbed my attention here was
first when aadham said that neither he nor maham will die... well we all know how that'll turn out
also, both are each other's greatest weakness... maham said so herself that she can bear any kind of pain, humiliation etc but not the loss of her son... another foreshadow of how maham will get murderously vicious against joja when aadham dies and in doing so will hit the final nail in her proverbial coffin...

lastly, the beautiful jodha jalal scene that conveyed brimming love, undeniable attraction and mutual respect for different religions that the two share... not to forget the concern and anger jalal showed for a mere scratch on jodha's hand...
lovely it was... simply lovely...

and let's just see the genius of the cv's here in showing two scenes poles apart in their very essence
how ruks broke that sacred thread that jodha tied and thus insulted, not only another's faith but also her Allah to whom she prays... for all religions teach that god is one
then the beautiful scene where we see jodha jalal accepting, respecting and striving to learn other's religion...
one foolish misguided soul and the two souls so pure, so full of love and respect for all...
is there any doubt left why the latter fell for each other and why their love is still remembered so fondly...
such great personalities are hard to come by, but when they do, they leave an impression which is hard to erase... be it from history or from one's heart...!!

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi - what has Jalal done to deserve what Ruk is doing to him?

Ruk ALWAYS BUT ALWAYS told Jalal that she does not care if he spends time with other wives, she is not jealous about sharing him - as long as her BEk status, her Audha, her haram remains with her.

Has Jalal taken any of that away from Ruk?
Has Jalal not spoiled Ruk ROTTEN with excessive pampering?
Has Jalal not been a good husband who GAVE Ruk EVERYTHING she asked for?

Jalal even did not spare BB but in 4 horrible big instances of Ruk behavior Jalal just let Ruk get away with them. The small ones are too many to count!

First - before Ben track asking Jodha to vacate her hojara. Jalal made sure Jodha stayed there - that was more because of his vachan to Jodha about her Kanha's respect. Jalal let loose such vicious ugly words on Jodha in return to placate Ruk.

Second - Ruk goaded him to marry Ben and after Ben truth came out Jalal looked like a fool for almost marrying the one who was there to kill him. Not just saving his life Jodha also saved his honor. Jalal did not even by a word let Ruk feel she was wrong and her pressure almost got him killed. In fact Jalal gave Ruk a gift!

Third - in Murti Kand - where Jalal knew very well it was Ruk who did the despicable act. Jalal just said in front of everybody that Jodha could not have done it and HID Ruk's sordid truth from everybody - nor did he punish Ruk for it.

Fourth - when Ruk told him she knew it was a Rajvanshi dressed as Khwaja Shera in haram. Did Ruk KNOW who it was? What if it was some Rajvanshi who had come with intention to kill Jalal? What if Jalal was attacked by the Rajvanshi actually - did he bother to ask this of Ruk?
What if not him but anybody else was attacked in haram? Is not haram Ruk's responsibility? Ruk lied to Jalal to separate Jodha from him and Jalal just did NOTHING!

From Ruk's side - Jalal has DONE NOTHING that Ruk can do this horrible act on Jalal.

I think for all the 4 reasons stated above, Jalal is going to DESERVE what Ruk is doing to him.

Hiding crime so the innocent does not get justice, standing by and letting the woman he professes to love get insulted, pampering Ruk so much always and pardoning her every vicious act that Ruk is now so arrogant to say "no matter how big a lie I tell Jalal will believe it blindly" - Jalal deserves everything Ruk is doing to him.

However much I hate the way Jodha is behaving - she has mostly always behaved this way with Ruk! Jalal is the one who NOW professes to love Jodha but his love seems to be so weak that he has no spine to simply tell Ruk who is so atrociously behaved - that she should accord respect to Jodha.

Forget love! Even if Jalal was NOT in love with Jodha - Ruk treating Jodha this was should not be tolerated by him. Why JUST Jodha - Ruk treating ANYBODY this way should not be tolerated! So tomorrow if Ruk decides that cos she is pregnant and is in bad mood she can insult SB - will Jalal stand aside and let Ruk do that? We all know the answer to this!!!

Jalal has NEVER stood up for Jodha - against Ruk EVER!

If Jalal gets angry with Ruk AFTER he learns of the truth and then tells her to accord respect to Jodha?!!! No it has no meaning for me!

Jalal let MA manipulate Jodha away from him. Jalal is letting Ruk manipulate Jodha away from him! If he is so hen-pecked against Ruk what to say about his spine?!

So if as Diksha said Ruk ASKED him to chose between the child and Jodha - HE SHOULD LET RUK SAY THIS????

What does it say for Jalal if he can let someone manipulate him so easily! So Jalal will let himself be emotionally blackmailed into doing whatever Ruk tells him? What if Ruk WAS REALLY PREGNANT and told him to chose - Jalal would chose his child?

I don't think love should be at the merci of emotional blackmail and tantrums!

If Ruk EVER said this to Jalal - I would like to see him tell Ruk that JALAL WILL CHOOSE HIS CHILD AND JODHA. That as a father he has every right on his child and it is not for Ruk to deny him ANY rights to his child and it is NOT for Ruk to DECIDE HOW his relationship with Jodha will be.

After yesterday not an ounce of sympathy for this Jalal - he fully deserves what Ruk is doing to him - cos ONLY Jalal is responsible for letting Ruk come to this stage!

I want to FULLY ENJOY how Jalal will face this and I want it to be IN DEK - where lot of Jdha's humiliations took place.

Again repeating what I wrote yesterday - I would LOVE for fiery Jodha to be back - not AFTER she learns of Ruk truth but JUST BECAUSE - self respect is every person's right and Jodha should stand up for hers. Telling someone who is mistreating and insulting you firmly that you will not stand up for such behavior is something GOOD!!!!!

I totally agree with u Mansi...the first part was enough to make me cringe..🥱I hated the nautanki of BEK...it was too much for me to take...JJ's pampering Ruqu was even more worse...I see no logic behind pampering her..Ruqu is pregnant, not sick..they certainly dont need to treat her a patient! 😵

Mansi nice post love your green part.

Originally posted by: ThorinMcBroody

hey mansi... great 'goodbye' analysis today...
the fact that you have written a 'goodbye' post dedicated to ruks makes me feel relieved that now bhandaphod is nearby... by this Friday atleast...

but I don't have much to say about ruks behaviour yesterday... as it is, as soon as she interrupted Jo and jalal, my fickle little brain found my phone much more interesting... and I'm afraid I missed much of the scene...
ooh but ruks voice has that quality that you cannot ignore her and so bits and pieces did register in my brains.. like screechy insults to jodha, and the way she broke the sacred thread... grr... someone lock this woman up...
but this part of her tantrum stood out... when she said that I'm not worried that you were attacked but that no one told me. why did you take this Hak away from me!
it's still all about hak and audha for her... she still was ranting all BEK, first begum... oof! *facepalm*
anyways, your green analysis has done more justice to this scene than whatever I'd write... great job !

coming too aadham maham scene... what really grabbed my attention here was
first when aadham said that neither he nor maham will die... well we all know how that'll turn out
also, both are each other's greatest weakness... maham said so herself that she can bear any kind of pain, humiliation etc but not the loss of her son... another foreshadow of how maham will get murderously vicious against joja when aadham dies and in doing so will hit the final nail in her proverbial coffin...

lastly, the beautiful jodha jalal scene that conveyed brimming love, undeniable attraction and mutual respect for different religions that the two share... not to forget the concern and anger jalal showed for a mere scratch on jodha's hand...
lovely it was... simply lovely...

and let's just see the genius of the cv's here in showing two scenes poles apart in their very essence
how ruks broke that sacred thread that jodha tied and thus insulted, not only another's faith but also her Allah to whom she prays... for all religions teach that god is one
then the beautiful scene where we see jodha jalal accepting, respecting and striving to learn other's religion...
one foolish misguided soul and the two souls so pure, so full of love and respect for all...
is there any doubt left why the latter fell for each other and why their love is still remembered so fondly...
such great personalities are hard to come by, but when they do, they leave an impression which is hard to erase... be it from history or from one's heart...!!

Originally posted by: sonilausarun

BANG ON Maddy BANG ON 👏 Fully Agreed wd ur every bit 👍🏼 Nothing can justify yest's jalal's behaviour in that JA-RQ-JO scene . I have no sympathy left for him. i dont care abt the latest promo . For now i just want RQ's bhandphood that too in DEK INFRONT of EVERYONE.

Originally posted by: tamy267

I totally agree with u Mansi...the first part was enough to make me cringe..🥱I hated the nautanki of BEK...it was too much for me to take...JJ's pampering Ruqu was even more worse...I see no logic behind pampering her..Ruqu is pregnant, not sick..they certainly dont need to treat her a patient! 😵

did u notice Ruqu was more miffed for not letting know the incident instead Jalal is hurt😕

I loved the water splashing followed by the namaz...it was divine!❤️ actually namaz scene wiped off the bitterness of Ruqu nautanki.

best thing was it was Jodha eager to learn namaz..to that Jalal's happiness was a worth watch..❤️when she was wrapping the dupatta around her, he looked so awe of her...she was being so excited and lively..then how she was following Jalal throughout the prayer..beautiful it was...❤️to end this divine scene he notices her wound and pledges to punish the sinner for being the cause of his darling Begum shedding blood...lovely!😳

what is your take on promo? I feel the dagger throwing is Shehnaz's imagination, rest r real...she wont be able to throw it..either someone will interrupt or she will herself move away.

Mansi I enjoyed the episode especially JJ doing Namaaz together & even Ruqu-Jalaal-Jodha and also Ruqlaal scene also..

If we keep aside Ruqu fake pregnancy, can't Ruqu anger justified as a friend & wife ? Till now any attack happened on Jalaal, he himself go & shared with Ruqu. Then how can she accept that now he didn't come & share with him ? Even though he may fell in love with JO, but she is still his friend, first wife whom he shared everything

Jalaal was guilty when Ruku asked the same question why he didn't share with her now ? why someone has to tell her ? Why not him ? The guilt in Jalaal, is that Ruqu has right to question him as a friend & wife and he didn't go to her & listened to JO and the same guilt is there in JO also, as she gave wrong advice to Jallu, as she doesn't know how Ruqlal relationship is..

To top of that both JJ are more worried to calm her down for baby sake and JO tried to calm her telling that they didn't shared it for child and put the daaga on Ruqu hand..Jallu showed her support to JO by telling her how good warrior and he would take her everywhere...

He understood JO needs his support while he doesn't want to upset Ruqu by bringing how rude she is to JO while JO is so good to her.

Ruqlal scene is also good, I saw how Jallu pamper hers friend so much she is still not realizing what she is going to loose with this stupid Fake pregnancy ...Whatever she does she is not going to break the emotional bond , trust & understanding JJ are now have for each other.

Ruqu is digging her grave herself & this time the fall is HUGE.. ...

JJ are just tolerating her as she is pregnant, both JJ understand her anger, & thought that rudeness of Ruqu is because Jallu didn't share the attack with her..

One thing I didn't like is when Ruqu asked Jallu to call for JO, he happily said OK, it would be good if he said, JO is hurt, she needs some rest, may be she will meet her tomorrow...

Originally posted by: MaddyO

Mansi - what has Jalal done to deserve what Ruk is doing to him?

Ruk ALWAYS BUT ALWAYS told Jalal that she does not care if he spends time with other wives, she is not jealous about sharing him - as long as her BEk status, her Audha, her haram remains with her.

Has Jalal taken any of that away from Ruk?
Has Jalal not spoiled Ruk ROTTEN with excessive pampering?
Has Jalal not been a good husband who GAVE Ruk EVERYTHING she asked for?

Jalal even did not spare BB but in 4 horrible big instances of Ruk behavior Jalal just let Ruk get away with them. The small ones are too many to count!

First - before Ben track asking Jodha to vacate her hojara. Jalal made sure Jodha stayed there - that was more because of his vachan to Jodha about her Kanha's respect. Jalal let loose such vicious ugly words on Jodha in return to placate Ruk.

Second - Ruk goaded him to marry Ben and after Ben truth came out Jalal looked like a fool for almost marrying the one who was there to kill him. Not just saving his life Jodha also saved his honor. Jalal did not even by a word let Ruk feel she was wrong and her pressure almost got him killed. In fact Jalal gave Ruk a gift!

Third - in Murti Kand - where Jalal knew very well it was Ruk who did the despicable act. Jalal just said in front of everybody that Jodha could not have done it and HID Ruk's sordid truth from everybody - nor did he punish Ruk for it.

Fourth - when Ruk told him she knew it was a Rajvanshi dressed as Khwaja Shera in haram. Did Ruk KNOW who it was? What if it was some Rajvanshi who had come with intention to kill Jalal? What if Jalal was attacked by the Rajvanshi actually - did he bother to ask this of Ruk?
What if not him but anybody else was attacked in haram? Is not haram Ruk's responsibility? Ruk lied to Jalal to separate Jodha from him and Jalal just did NOTHING!

From Ruk's side - Jalal has DONE NOTHING that Ruk can do this horrible act on Jalal.

I think for all the 4 reasons stated above, Jalal is going to DESERVE what Ruk is doing to him.

Hiding crime so the innocent does not get justice, standing by and letting the woman he professes to love get insulted, pampering Ruk so much always and pardoning her every vicious act that Ruk is now so arrogant to say "no matter how big a lie I tell Jalal will believe it blindly" - Jalal deserves everything Ruk is doing to him.

However much I hate the way Jodha is behaving - she has mostly always behaved this way with Ruk! Jalal is the one who NOW professes to love Jodha but his love seems to be so weak that he has no spine to simply tell Ruk who is so atrociously behaved - that she should accord respect to Jodha.

Forget love! Even if Jalal was NOT in love with Jodha - Ruk treating Jodha this was should not be tolerated by him. Why JUST Jodha - Ruk treating ANYBODY this way should not be tolerated! So tomorrow if Ruk decides that cos she is pregnant and is in bad mood she can insult SB - will Jalal stand aside and let Ruk do that? We all know the answer to this!!!

Jalal has NEVER stood up for Jodha - against Ruk EVER!

If Jalal gets angry with Ruk AFTER he learns of the truth and then tells her to accord respect to Jodha?!!! No it has no meaning for me!

Jalal let MA manipulate Jodha away from him. Jalal is letting Ruk manipulate Jodha away from him! If he is so hen-pecked against Ruk what to say about his spine?!

So if as Diksha said Ruk ASKED him to chose between the child and Jodha - HE SHOULD LET RUK SAY THIS????

What does it say for Jalal if he can let someone manipulate him so easily! So Jalal will let himself be emotionally blackmailed into doing whatever Ruk tells him? What if Ruk WAS REALLY PREGNANT and told him to chose - Jalal would chose his child?

I don't think love should be at the merci of emotional blackmail and tantrums!

If Ruk EVER said this to Jalal - I would like to see him tell Ruk that JALAL WILL CHOOSE HIS CHILD AND JODHA. That as a father he has every right on his child and it is not for Ruk to deny him ANY rights to his child and it is NOT for Ruk to DECIDE HOW his relationship with Jodha will be.

After yesterday not an ounce of sympathy for this Jalal - he fully deserves what Ruk is doing to him - cos ONLY Jalal is responsible for letting Ruk come to this stage!

I want to FULLY ENJOY how Jalal will face this and I want it to be IN DEK - where lot of Jdha's humiliations took place.

Again repeating what I wrote yesterday - I would LOVE for fiery Jodha to be back - not AFTER she learns of Ruk truth but JUST BECAUSE - self respect is every person's right and Jodha should stand up for hers. Telling someone who is mistreating and insulting you firmly that you will not stand up for such behavior is something GOOD!!!!!

I totally agree with your opinion. This fake pregnancy track is a torture now, for me it like grating my finger nail on a glass. The CV's are exaggerating Ruq's boorishness as they slowly lead this track to it's climax.

What they don't realize is that they eroding the credibility of both their leads in the process. Jalal is being shown as spineless, totally unable to stand up to this woman. And Jodha is being shown as unrealistically good in her behavior towards Ruq, a kind of sweetness that is cloying and it is getting on my nerves now.

Akbar who ruled the country and Jodha an astute businesswoman who had ships plying the trade routes, are being hoodwinked by a half-baked plan of a woman with limited intelligence. It is ridiculous, I say.