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Posted: 11 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: apsara310882



Wonderful lines. It really nailed me.
(Is it your own creation or from any poem or book)
Liked it so much.

This is infact the off suit of child marriage. Ruq is still the child in mind. People praised her to be intelligent and brainy and that thought got too much into her head. This made her think others' are just a spec. Jalal also gave importance to her as a best friend, because they grew up together. Its natural they understand each other's thinking and behaviour easily. She thought jalal is just behind other women of the harem for nights and once his need is over, he comes back to her. So she was ok with him staying with any other women. But jodha is threat to her position. she had the guts to contest in the harem warden election, guts to tell everything on jalal's face, which makes him more attractive to her (sometimes unknowing to himself). This fear is making her do all these things that she is herself digging her pit.



apsara, i try to write from my heart when i make a serious post and this is my own creation darling!..thank you so much for liking it, i am honored😊..doesn't matter how negative ruk is being as female i will always feel for a woman and a wife in her!..she will be childless and she will be alone..what else worst can happen to this lonely soul!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: mandyg



beautiful thoughts neha and very well put together!..you have very well explained their situation..but we cannot blame anyone here..can we blame jalal for falling in love and eventually finding his heart!..or jodha for becoming his beloved..or ruk for her uncontrolled jealousy!..no!..there are certain things that are bound to happen..like we both agree change is inevitable and one leaves the world alone..and there are some lucky ones that find true love..but again how can we define true love in a polygamy set up and in a mother who has more than one child..can a mother love one child more than the other? or is it possible for a husband in a polygamy set up to behave as if he has just one wife even though he likes a few more than the others?..is jalal doing ok by ignoring ruk and not spending any time with her?



Ruks need to change as well right. WHy should we just blame Jalal here. It has to happen two way. How can we expect Jalal to behind ruks when she is not willing to change. In fact all she can talk is about her audha, play games or ruling Jalals mind.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#33
Mandy a vry luvly perspective u hv put frwrd...👏
well cvs hv alwys made Ruk's character to luk like a GREY one so lets wait n watch maybe aftr making her loose evrything they make some improvemnts in her character ormake her realise dat she is left alone in this nd lost her only frnd nd family her JALAL😭
we nevr knw wat it is actually which ruqaiya wants,is it really the the AUHDA or it is the importance nd tym which she used to get frm Jalal becoz of the audaa😊
coz during that divorce trak i didnt find audaa importance in dat letter much indeed she related the audaa wid the tym nd importance she used to get frm ja,she talkd of her journey wid him which ws gng to end nd the family she ws gng to loose...we all forget one thing that ja nd ruqu both r brought up in same environmnt nd by same people...dnt we knw how jalal ws b4 nd wat he liked in ruqu ws dat same hunger fr power,dat intelligence,we also forgot dat it ws the same jalal who praised her fr her control ovr evry1 nd evry begum bt nw he dislikes her wen she asked jo to press her legs coz he he hs changed nd nw nd loves jodha,bt my qn is dat he wudnt hv fallen in love den fr sure he wud hv liked all this???
NOw he changed coz he got reason to change i.e.,jodha bt wat reason did ruqu got to change??
the answer is dat no reason nd nobody tried to change her,make her understand dat things hv changed,neither jalal,nor HB,SB,her vry own phupi jaan nd evry1 wants her to stop behaving widout any effortwat all things hv not happened bw ja-jo to become wat they r 2day bt wat wid ruqu??
so i jst wish dat okk dnt make ja love ruqu,dnt make him understand her pov bt atleast make ruqu understand her position dat now she is jst Badshah Babur's granddaughter nd no1 in Jalal's life aftr the dirty game she played wid his feelings nd make her fufill her duties of being a ROYAL MUGHAL FAMILY BLOOD nd jst restore her respect which she had in real life coz this is reaaly not done😡let the lonely woman cry out her heart nd emote her loneliness which actually she living since her childhood 😭coz no matter how much evr pampered she ws by some people the truth is dat the girl hs lived all alone throughout coz the only person she wanted be wid kept on saying dat he doesnt hv any HEART 🥺nd suddenly found his heart😲i wud say we nvr wether it ws jodha or his age nd tym which made him change nd played a vry cunning destiny game wid Ruqaiya coz love has no reasons...
My qn to evry1 is dat we all hv frnds,some special,some common bt all r related to our heart thru memories we hv of the tym we shared together coz widout heart hw can u make frnds as its also type of love only so how can we say dat jalal always tuk ruqiya as his BEST FRIEND wen he didnt hv any heart to feel nd live dat FRIENDSHIP??
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Posted: 11 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: peepu

Wonderful thought process mandy..

This attachment is world and detachment is another world
Attachment is for life to continue. ..it ia for us to love...let us being loved.making relations and continuing them even after we are no more.the relations live on.
When a man dies he leaves a friend, a wife, a child, a neighbour to cry and miss him and vice versa.
If everybody is detached world will be relationless, only rational emotionless wasteland.
Death is imminent why should we cry practicality says..but still we cry, shed tears and miss the person.
We are possessive and attached that's why the world is beautiful.
That's why the Jodhas palace and place of rest still stand beside her lover, tajmahal still stands as a memoir of love.
All the great things are products of attachment and possessiveness only which grew out of love.
Detachment produces a wasteland while attachment produces Daffodils..I would prefer latter to live on in this world.though I've also many pangs of detachment like all
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wonderful thoughts peepu, that is why its getting tough for ruk to detach herself from jalal..to let him go and make peace with her loneliness..do you think it would have been easy for any human being in her situation to do that?...

zindagi guzar gayi mujhe ek shaks ko samajhne mein
jab pyaar samajh mein aaya tab wo shaks wahan tha hi nahin
usse dhoodne nikli main ek lamba raasta tai karti hui
kya dekhti hun wo shaks wo tha hi nahin koi aur hai
thake paaon jab main waapis lauti to apne aap ko akela paya
sahare ke liye kiske paas jaati sab darwaaze to band ho chuke the
kya reh gaya tha mere paas bas uski meethi yaad ke ek ehsaas ke siva!

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Posted: 11 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: SindhuMenon



To ur question it totally depends from person to person. One thing I have realized is if you find someone who truly loves you for what you are, then that stays forever, Love is basically sacrifice, compromise, understanding your partner so on.



i agree sidhu saab..sorry u can call me gill saab😆...yes, u got my point it depends on what type of person u are..some get satisfied with what they have but some keep moving until they settle down and in doing so they do not care how many experimental lives they have trampled under their foot..again different personalities react to realities of life in different ways!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: Flag

Great post and very true👏



thank you dear😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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thank you my doll🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: alapi

Mandy a vry luvly perspective u hv put frwrd...👏
well cvs hv alwys made Ruk's character to luk like a GREY one so lets wait n watch maybe aftr making her loose evrything they make some improvemnts in her character ormake her realise dat she is left alone in this nd lost her only frnd nd family her JALAL😭
we nevr knw wat it is actually which ruqaiya wants,is it really the the AUHDA or it is the importance nd tym which she used to get frm Jalal becoz of the audaa😊
coz during that divorce trak i didnt find audaa importance in dat letter much indeed she related the audaa wid the tym nd importance she used to get frm ja,she talkd of her journey wid him which ws gng to end nd the family she ws gng to loose...we all forget one thing that ja nd ruqu both r brought up in same environmnt nd by same people...dnt we knw how jalal ws b4 nd wat he liked in ruqu ws dat same hunger fr power,dat intelligence,we also forgot dat it ws the same jalal who praised her fr her control ovr evry1 nd evry begum bt nw he dislikes her wen she asked jo to press her legs coz he he hs changed nd nw nd loves jodha,bt my qn is dat he wudnt hv fallen in love den fr sure he wud hv liked all this???
NOw he changed coz he got reason to change i.e.,jodha bt wat reason did ruqu got to change??
the answer is dat no reason nd nobody tried to change her,make her understand dat things hv changed,neither jalal,nor HB,SB,her vry own phupi jaan nd evry1 wants her to stop behaving widout any effortwat all things hv not happened bw ja-jo to become wat they r 2day bt wat wid ruqu??
so i jst wish dat okk dnt make ja love ruqu,dnt make him understand her pov bt atleast make ruqu understand her position dat now she is jst Badshah Babur's granddaughter nd no1 in Jalal's life aftr the dirty game she played wid his feelings nd make her fufill her duties of being a ROYAL MUGHAL FAMILY BLOOD nd jst restore her respect which she had in real life coz this is reaaly not done😡let the lonely woman cry out her heart nd emote her loneliness which actually she living since her childhood 😭coz no matter how much evr pampered she ws by some people the truth is dat the girl hs lived all alone throughout coz the only person she wanted be wid kept on saying dat he doesnt hv any HEART 🥺nd suddenly found his heart😲i wud say we nvr wether it ws jodha or his age nd tym which made him change nd played a vry cunning destiny game wid Ruqaiya coz love has no reasons...
My qn to evry1 is dat we all hv frnds,some special,some common bt all r related to our heart thru memories we hv of the tym we shared together coz widout heart hw can u make frnds as its also type of love only so how can we say dat jalal always tuk ruqiya as his BEST FRIEND wen he didnt hv any heart to feel nd live dat FRIENDSHIP??



alapi, there are no two sides to the fact that her character is portrayed as grey, whatever she is doing will irk the audience and more sympathies for jodha, she will fall in jalal's eyes..jalal will break all ties with her..then maybe later on the cvz with their natkiye rupantar will make her worst or redeem her depending on the trp janta, this track is no different than any of ekta's cliched sbs tracks!..so no surprises there..for me i am trying to bring out the inner turmoil of a lonely soul who was childless and pretty much husbandless..a human who is hurt and in return trying to hurt others as a result of which she will cause more harm to herself than anyone else!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well why don't we look at Ruqaiya-Jalal relationship from its initial stage...she was his childhood friend, who married as a child. Jalal status was not stabilised, he was always in battlefield with Bairam khan and wining state after states, where was the time for emotional connect...then came Jodha...Jalal, a hot blood, young man who was now Shehanshaah...consolidated his position, somewhat, as a ruler...he got to spend time with his new wife, to watch her, observe her...perhaps he found a fearless lady, a woman who'd the charm and charisma to arouse not just the man in him but a heart in him...where even Ruqaiya failed. The thing in Jalal-Ruqaiya's relationship is the "lack of Evolution"...thus it became stagnant...Just see the speed of evolution in Jalal-Jodha...from hatred to friendship, to lovers, to a couple in love...and still will evolve coz they both love to explore each other...So the phase of Jalal's life is also a factor and also Ruqaiya failed to evolve with time and also failed to discover Jalal...she moved on when she knew she'd him...that did it for her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mishtidoi

Well why don't we look at Ruqaiya-Jalal relationship from its initial stage...she was his childhood friend, who married as a child. Jalal status was not stabilised, he was always in battlefield with Bairam khan and wining state after states, where was the time for emotional connect...then came Jodha...Jalal, a hot blood, young man who was now Shehanshaah...consolidated his position, somewhat, as a ruler...he got to spend time with his new wife, to watch her, observe her...perhaps he found a fearless lady, a woman who'd the charm and charisma to arouse not just the man in him but a heart in him...where even Ruqaiya failed. The thing in Jalal-Ruqaiya's relationship is the "lack of Evolution"...thus it became stagnant...Just see the speed of evolution in Jalal-Jodha...from hatred to friendship, to lovers, to a couple in love...and still will evolve coz they both love to explore each other...So the phase of Jalal's life is also a factor and also Ruqaiya failed to evolve with time and also failed to discover Jalal...she moved on when she knew she'd him...that did it for her.



very well said mishti..i will just cpoy paste few lines that i wrote in that pretext...

zindagi guzar gayi mujhe ek shaks ko samajhne mein
jab pyaar samajh mein aaya tab wo shaks wahan tha hi nahin
usse dhoodne nikli main ek lamba raasta tai karti hui
kya dekhti hun wo shaks wo tha hi nahin koi aur hai
thake paaon jab main waapis lauti to apne aap ko akela paya
sahare ke liye kiske paas jaati sab darwaaze to band ho chuke the
kya reh gaya tha mere paas bas uski meethi yaad ke ek ehsaas ke siva!

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