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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lovely analysis as always Mansi!!
I was sooo happy Jalaal reached Amer today, finally finally 👏 now if only we cud c JaJo together with him manaoing her and her doing his sewa and some nakhras 😆

Loved Jalaal smile when Jo was saying she is seeing and hearing him even though he is not here, that was sooo cute!
Another thing i cudnt help but notice was Jalaal witty response to Bharmal when he asked y he is out of bed and not resting...how teasingly he said someone came put khalal in my rest looking at Jo...he so loves to tease her 😆

And offcourse the precap we all know its Jo picking something from there and not actually kissing him or anything but still it gave me immense happiness to c them in such close proximity to eachother, i just cant wait to c the whole scene and i loved how Jalaal was surprised and wondering what is going on 😲 😆

Hope to c a lovely episode today!!

Another thing that i absolutely loved in this episode was Mainavati's reverse psycology and is effect on Jo😆 she really needed that along with Bharmal's straight talk and reality check 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

let everything take its own course. That's the best way to handle anything that is sudden or unexpected!


I agree with Mansi, Why worry now! and I really don't care about what Santram said, he's always been a total jerk. I know PS is safe in the hands of a feminist Ekta Kapoor, nothing will happen to her. One Santram can't do much, let him talk his crap.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oops sorry double post!!!
Edited by rishbala3018 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ok why has there been no further mentions of Maham and the surang???
I guess CVs are themselves not clear as to what they want to show


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rishbala3018

Lovely analysis as always Mansi!!
I was sooo happy Jalaal reached Amer today, finally finally 👏 now if only we cud c JaJo together with him manaoing her and her doing his sewa and some nakhras 😆

Loved Jalaal smile when Jo was saying she is seeing and hearing him even though he is not here, that was sooo cute!
Another thing i cudnt help but notice was Jalaal witty response to Bharmal when he asked y he is out of bed and not resting...how teasingly he said someone came put khalal in my rest looking at Jo...he so loves to tease her 😆

And offcourse the precap we all know its Jo picking something from there and not actually kissing him or anything but still it gave me immense happiness to c them in such close proximity to eachother, i just cant wait to c the whole scene and i loved how Jalaal was surprised and wondering what is going on 😲 😆

Hope to c a lovely episode today!!

Another thing that i absolutely loved in this episode was Mainavati's reverse psycology and is effect on Jo😆 she really needed that along with Bharmal's straight talk and reality check 👏

You are so cheerful today that I am feeling very happy for you!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

hi Mansi,

11 coconuts! that's a lucky number - hope we get 11 episodes of JJ in Amer, starting from yesterday!😆 And 11 OTT reviews from you too!

What a wonderful thought - 11 episodes. I know here I am speaking on behalf of Mansi but I am sure she will go and break 11 more coconuts if that means 22 episodes in Amer 😆

I was not at all upset with Jodha yesterday. You have explained everything beautifully. She was still struggling with her heart and mind. Her heart was yearning for him while her mind was still holding on to the hurt and telling her not to believe him and to stay away from him. Poor girl had not yet resolved this conflict when Jalal confused her with sights and sounds. My poor little Jo must have thought she had become schizophrenic. 😆 The suddenness of his arrival and her own mental condition prevented her from recognizing the gravity of his condition.

I told you yesterday that Jo might get a premonition and ask Bharmal to send his army to Jalal. Looks like Bharmal himself got the premonition and sent his army. Though his army is also useless like the Agra army. What were they doing till Jalal fainted? 😆 At least they took him to Amer in one piece. I am glad Jalal kept my hopes in his ability alive and rescued himself valiantly. He is such a great warrior who is at his most alert and ingenious best even when he is mentally exhausted and devastated. The old man came in handy to get Jalal to keep the sikka where it could work as a kavach to keep him safe. 😉

The old man reminded Jalal of his dil and the sikka reminded him Jodha wants him safe always and gave him hope back after his dejected state. Abul M's taunts did the rest. Jalal back in roaring form!

BTW if Bharmal's or even Jalal's men had intervened earlier HOW would Jalal have got injured? Then he would have gone back to Agra! So Jalal HAD to be injured so he can be taken to Amer, Jodha made to give loads of TLC 😆

You are right about the empty ego shell and the thinking rut Jo had fallen into. When we were discussing this in the last few days, I had mentioned that it would be no good if Jo is in Amer and Jalal goes back to Agra because then they would get stuck in their ego, waiting for the other to take the initiative. The shock of seeing a wounded Jalal is therefore imperative at this stage to push Jodha to come out of her mental blockade and acknowledge her feelings. Seeing him in person at close quarters and being forced to care for him will push her to let go of her mental fears and heed her heart's desires.

It would have looked illogical to me if she had hugged him the moment she saw him because she has not seen his remorse/pain/hurt/agony and his crusade to find her and win her over. She only remembers the Night. She doesn't know how much he regrets that night and to what lengths he has gone and is willing to go for her. What she does know is that he loves her and she has already forgiven him in her heart. But how can she acknowledge openly to him and her parents that she still loves him, after claiming that she will never go back to him?

👏👏👏

Bharmal did 2 wise things yesterday:

1. He got Jalal to Amer safely.
2. He told Jodha frankly to get hold of her own emotions and to be more sensitive to her injured husband and emperor.

Mainavati helped her husband by using her own emotional twisters to unscrew Jodha. The mother understood her daughter perfectly and knew that Jodha was looking for a face saving excuse to go to Jalal and tend to him. And she provided the perfect excuse - that he was their guest and injured. So now Jodha can attend to Jalal all she wants in the name of atithi seva and kartavya to an injured person. 😆

She is still going to do some nakhras in front of Jalal and show him some attitude. Like Mainavati guessed, she wants to make the most of the situation like a typical wife and get Jalal to woo her with all his charm and tricks. This is quite good from Jalal's POV also because he will rid himself of his guilt by wooing Jodha with some difficulty. If she had melted easily, the guilt would have stayed with him - "how could I hurt such a sweet forgiving girl"? And secondly, he will learn to value her and think twice in future before daring to distrust or abuse her. Last but not the least, till Jalal is able to woo her, they will remain in Amer, far away from the madding crowd of Agra. 😉 And it will be a big relief for us also not to have to see MA/Ruq and assorted jeev-jantu of the Agra zoo. 😆

👏 Again. 😆

I have been quite critical of Mainavati and Bharmal in the past. But now they are rising in my eyes. Wow, they are behaving like sensible and responsible parents and helping their children (both JJ) come to terms with reality. Wish HB was invited here to learn some tips and tricks from them!

The only thing I didn't understand was why Bharmal let Jalal "totter" (ur words 😆 ) to the waterfront? Wasn't any conveyance available? But he made up for this lapse by being the avuncular FIL and ordering Jalal to get back in bed. Jalal was so touched by this "order" that he promptly obeyed. Bharmal's intervention in the "Shahenshah, aap yahan kya kar rahen hain" scene must also have come as a big relief to Jalal. No wonder, Jalal fell in love with the Ameris hereafter. 😆

Precap: Obviously nothing as dramatic as we expect - but interesting nevertheless. Anticipating the scene with bated breath. 😳



Radhika my replies in bold.
BIG THANKS for making me see Jodha's POV better yesterday 😊


Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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REALLY nice annalysis...!!!
and u must have broken the coconut after the episode...😆😆
yup , bharmal bringing back jalal was a nice idea which didn't striked our brains at all..!!...i guess cv's wanted to pursue todamal as a separate track...(ekta <3 es runnng her shows for yrs n yrs n yrs...😆)

Ps. .. but yesterday for the very first tym i found an insensitive jodha...which i had never seen bfore..!!
(as bharmal rightly said even i was thinking at same lines then...that she was the one who even prepared lep for benazir)...i thought she was't able to see his wounds... due to the shawl... !!
bt as soon as sees his wound...puting all her anger and self respect aside she would nurse him immediately...alas she knew about his wound...and jo did put me down for the very first tym...!!
i really felt bad since i adore jo alot...till now i havn't seen her wrong...!!!


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi - absolutely wonderful post. You know how much eagerly I was waiting to read your take and episode through your eyes.

I read many posts here giving Jodha's POV about yesterday's episode. I thank wonderful writers like you, Radhika, Diksha, Bhavana, Sun, Kshithi (btw her laptop is under repairs so maybe she won't be able to make her usual long wonderful posts) and not go forget Abhay and many many others - who made me feel lot better about episode.

This is what I REMINDED MYSELF
Jalal accused Jodha on EMA, he broke off ALL relations with her, he basically ended their marriage, he threw her out of her home (which she had just started to feel comfortable in) in the dead of the night.

I am NOT ACCUSING JALAL OR PUTTING BLAME HERE - all I am doing is RE-THINKING TO MYSELF - so that I can put Jodha's hurt again in better perspective.

Sun wrote wonderfully on Ela's thread yesterday. Jalal took 2 MONTHS to get over the dhakka insult and Jodha had to drink poison for it! Still HE has still not got over the dhakka - he kept mentioning it to Jodha still but more in questioning or teasing manner than in hurt. So even after Jodha drank poison can Jalal NOT forget the dhakka - HOW CAN WE EXPECT Jodha to forget WORSE INSULTS AND HUMILIATIONS AFTER ONE SORRY?!

Again I am NOT WRITING AGAINST JALAL - I am REMINDING MYSELF of Jodha's hurt.

WE HAVE SEEN Jalal's repentance, Jodha has not see what all he went through.

Also see from Jodha POV - she was alone in Mathura among strangers and had to pretend and hide her pain from everybody. So she was kind of brushing it off somewhere not even being able to let it out TOTALLY.

Jalal got her to do that in Mathura and esp after the fake death prank. So Jodha got to pour out her hurt to him.

Someone wrote wonderfully yesterday - till yesterday Jodha was remembering Jalal's words in flashback - now she is remembering his APOLOGY.

Also Jodha would have expected to FINALLY be free to let out all her feelings in the safety of Amer - where nobody will judge her - where she expects some TLC and taking of her side from her parents. WHO else can she think of to do that?

So it was a BIG SHOCK to her to see Jalal there. Her parents taking his side would make her feel she has not got a chance to even talk to them about all her hurts yet. So her reaction is not from ego but TOTAL CONFUSION and fatigue also. Jodha and Jalal both are fatigued in mind. Yesterday Jalal got a chance to start feeling positive again about winning Jodha over. Jodha has STILL NOT GOT A SINGLE POSITIVE THOUGTH in HER mind. She needs to start thinking that first!

Edited by MaddyO - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Let everything take its own course. That's the best way to handle anything that is sudden or unexpected!
Incidentally the same dailies also misreport many times, so I would take everything good and bad with a big pinch of salt. The big dailies are no better than the tabloids when it comes to TV and cinema gossip.



The point I was trying to make was that no one should blame Paridhi or Jodha for the "no reaction" thing . There are things underneath the hood which should be taken into account.

Secondly, the allegations that the Times of India and others are making are libelous. Obviously the newspapers don't feel any threat of libel because they are confident of their sources. Whatever the case, we as watchers of the show should support our stars through thick and thin.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yet another lovely post Mansi, full of positivism. How do you do it??
Thankfully Jalal's in Amer, with such sensible and able In-laws to help him !!
Like every 1 else , am too disappointed with Jo not showing her reaction. There are somethings that you always expect from these characters, almost take for granted their reaction which we r used to,but when the opposite happens, it shocks us. The mind understands but the heart doesn't !!
Looking forward to the 'manao-fying" days ahead !!

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