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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: WhiteNights.

Great post Mansi!

I am almost 90% sure that Jodha will leave for the jungle and the patch up/ reunion will happen there. I say, how much more romantic that would be! Bring it on.

Thanks ... and I agree with you!
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Originally posted by: skanda12



Mansi - Very nice title.
Advance notice to you - tomorrow I am going to expect jugalbandi
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Friends, yesterday's episode was one big action thriller. We had an angry King, a furtive khwaja sera, some helter-skelter running sipahis, some dashing swordfrights, some big-toothed evil smiles from Maham, a scared and worried Sharif, a boisterous Atga, some scurrying baandhis, a Ruq in an false world of her own, and a tearful Jodha supplicating before Kahna. But the million-dollar question at the end of a happening half hour was ... is Sujamal in the pot or not?

For those who wish to know what happened, or to relive the drama, here is a quick gist of the action yesterday:

The episode starts with Ruq asking - no, ordering - Dilawar, her new khwaja sera - to press her legs! But Dilawar (in truth being a noble Rajvanshi) did not want to do any such thing. He answered Ruq very cleverly "I can't do it. I wouldn't have it said that anybody else did salaam to the legs of the Begum of the Badshah!" Ruq was checkmated. But then she asked for a hookah and found it not up to standard. As if very angry with Dilawar she then said to him "Take these jewels to Begum Jodha. You know who she is don't you?" Dilawar took the jewels and said with a straight face "Yes I have seen her around this palace, she is the one with the large heart isn't she?" and then he went with the jewels. Ruq was thrilled she had executed her part of the plan made with Maham.

Rukayya YUCK, not just for asking for legs message (she wanted to confirm MA's theory so asked for that to see if he will refuse😡) but how she was rolling on bed in front of someone who she knew was a stranger a man

All the while, as Dilawar carried the jewels to Jodha, he jkept getting flashbacks of how Jalal had become suspicious of him at the Hoshiyaar birthday party, and how later Maham has also tried to bait him regarding his true colours. He thought to himself "I have to go to Jodha and tell her everything and make good my escape from here. Too many people have already become suspicious of me here. Before I catch the real culprit, I should make sure I am myself not caught!"

Meanwhile Maham was busy taking the painting of Dilawar to Jalal. At first all Jalal saw on the painting was the semblance of Dilawar, the khwaja sera. "Look at it carefully, don't you see the truth?" asked Maham, but still all Jalal saw was only Dilawar's face. Then Maham, the semi-artist. went to a nearby mashal, collected some soot on her fingers and proceeded to draw a moustache and beard on the face of Dilawar in the painting. Lo and behold, Jalal began to see that the face was none other than that of the "gair mard" Jodha had been secretly meeting at nights. Jalal grew red and furious and his face contorted with anger. He was aghast that the "lover" of Jodha should have the temerity to enter the palace - and of all places, the harem - in disguise as a khwaja sera and thus attempt to meet Jodha on the sly under Jalal's very nose. Jalal unsheathed his sword and with a sort of war cry ran after Dilawar.

Maham told Jalal Dilwar was now assigned to Ruq, so Jalal first ran to Ruq's room. But there he drew a blank and instead Ruq told him a half-truth "Dilawar wanted to talk to Jodha about something, so he has gone to her hojra". Off went a screaming Jalal, running like a maniac behind Dilawar, much to Ruq's delight that her plot, made in tandem with Maham, was working so beautifully. Jalal was almost at the entrance to Jodha's hojra, ... when we have to catch our breaths and be ready for what was inside.

I hope when Sujamal tells ALL - he will tell Jalal - Jodha did not know of him in haram, she would NEVER HAVE EXPECTED HIM TO DRESS LIKE A KHWAJA SHERA - he did not get a chance to meet Jodha all these days to tell her he was Sujamal and in haram. Sujamal should tell Jalal he got a chance to meet and tell Jodha only WHEN RUKAYYA SENT HIM TO JODHA'S asking him to take the jewelry to her. Of course we KNOW CVs will not have Jalal EVER doubt his precious Rukayya - but if he used his brain for thinking about MA & Rukayya EVER - Jalal should wonder WHY Rukayya sent Sujamal to Jodha's AT NIGHT and then lied to him when he asked. I know - no hopes CVs don't do this to their MA & Rukayya and Jalal can doubt Jodha all he wants, DOUBT RUKAYYA & MA - OF COURSE NOT 😡😡😡😡😡😡🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

Indide Jodha's hojra, where Dilawar had reached a little earlier, Dilawar tried to hold Jodha's hand, and when she looked shocked by this gesture he removed his facial jewellery and dupatta and said plainly "Jodha, it is I, Sujamal!". Jodha's shock was two fold. One, to see him inside the palace like this in her room despite danger to her life was bad enough. And two, because a Rajvanshi noble like him had been reduced to a disguise of a khwaja sera, Jodha couldn't bear the thoguht! "It's okay Jodha if I take on this disguise," Sujamal explained "Because it is in a good cause. I wanted to keep my vachan to you to save your suhaag. But Jalal has become very suspicious of me so I fear my mission may not completed and I may get caught first." Jodha with tears in her eyes was still staring at him, not knowing what to do, when Jalal's voice was heard bellowing just outside her door "Where is this Dilawar Khan?" By this time Jalal was not running alone. A posse of sipahis was following him, all with swords unleashed, looking for the errant Dilawar Khan.

Jodha was shocked seeing Sujamal in haram and more seeing dressed as Khwaja Shera. We kept thinking why she did not recognize him - Jodha would never have imagined he can do something like this take this disguise take such huge risk for saving Jalal.

Just as Jalal entered Jodha's room, however, Dilawar made a hasty and simultaneous exit from the back door of the room - and so Jalal came in and drew a blank again. But he threatened Jodha "I know what you are up to. Where are you hiding him?" and with those kinds of war cries he started searching the whole room as Jodha stood quivering with fear at his ruthless thirst to catch Dilawar. Suddenly Jalal looked like a hound that had got the scent of the rabbit and was gunning for blood!

Jodha thinks Jalal knows it is Sujamal - he told her I know who Dilawar is - so Jodha will be more shocked when Jalal will accuse her of the EMA!

Sujamal meanwhile, just after exiting Jodha's rooms, was thinking fast "I have to leave this palace now, it's become too hot for me here!". Hardly had he said the words than some sipahis ringed round him, ready to hem him in. But not for nothing was Sujamal such a great swordsman. He cut the ring of sipahis around him with a few well-placed slashes, and felled them all and started running towards the bawarchi khana - the kitchen.

The moment he ran into the kitchen the bandhis there squawked like hens disturbed by a fox and ran out of the kitchen in desperate fright. More sipahis followed Dilawar as he continued to display some great swordmanship even as he ran around pots and pans and tables and shelves. One bandhi girl however did not run. She hid behind a pillar and watched with trepidation. When Dilawar had felled most of the sipahis in the kitchen and the coast seemed clear, he got into a huge empty copper pot in a corner of the kitchen.

The lone watching bandhi girl then ran out of the kitchen to inform the advancing Jalal (who by now also had Atga with him, fully briefed) apart from another battalion of soldiers. The girl told Jalal "That Dilawar has climbed into that copper pot, I saw him do that!". Jalal entered the kitchen with his men and headed straight for the copper pot.

The actress playing Bandi was overacting way too much

Meanwhile in an aside, Sharif was with Bakshi in her room, when a bandhi came and gave him all the news of all that had happened - especially the part where it was now known that Dilawar was a Rajvanshi male believed to be a "gair mard" visited by Jodha! Suddenly the lights turned on in Sharif's head for when he had first seen Dilawar the face was so familiar. "It must be this Sujamal" he thought to himself and then his face showed great fright because another thought came to him. "What if Sujamal tells Jalal all about me if he knows I was behind the jashn attack?". So Sharif ran as if his backside was on fire to the kitchen to witness further events. Bakshi thought to herself "Here he goes at the mere mention of Jodha's name!" and she gave an ugly grimace.

Meanwhile Hamida and Salima were no less concerned in Hamida's room. "We have no clue who this Dilawar really is" Salima was telling Hamida and both women were looking nonplussed! And in an aside, Adham met with his mother, and she gave him the full lowdown on what was happening - so both mother and son were last seen smiling at each other with utter satisfaction at the fracas happening in their lives. In her hojra Jodha was praying to Kanha to save Sujamal - for he was only trying to save Jalal's life!

Maham was also all the time tailing Jalal so she too was part of the kitchen party, thinking to herself with glee that Jodha's days here would be numbered! Strangly whileSharif also ran and came to the kitchen and was there, Adham was not there in the kitchen tamasha.

Having all congregated around the "loaded pot" Jalal got his sipahis to bring a cauldron of boiling water and then shouted to Dilawar "Come out and reveal yourself - or get boiled to death!" But there was total silence from the pot.

(No doubt when the bandhi girl ran out to tell Jalal about Dilawar in the pot, Dilawar got out of the pot and hid himself elsewhere?) Now there the episode ends, with the pot being the hero of the episode.

The precap was again a repeat of the "angry Jalal shouting at Jodha" promo but there was one more key sentence. Jalal, frightfully angry shouts at Jodha with menace and disgust "I have fallen in love with you and this is what you do to me. You have betrayed me for a secret mard. Tomorrow morning by sunrise I want you out of here!"

Phew, folks, was that enough action for one day? I think there's more to come in the Friday episode because all these things are yet to happen:

a. Someone is going to unleash a plot now to kill Jalal in the midst of this confusion. Dilawar from his new hiding place may overhear this.

We know that Sujamal did not see the flute when he handed over the angarkha to SD, but since it is SD who hid it there, and SD knows Sujamal knows about the flute. So SD might fret that Sujamal has seen the flute, Sujamal might realize he was the man talking with Abul Mali. When Sujamal won't be found in the pot SD will worry what if he tells Jodha/Jalal all this. So SD might try to attack Jalal from far - so the arrow maybe - so that just like Jashan he can accuse Sujamal of trying to attack Jalal.
Instead this time he might end up saving Sujamal - cos Sujamal will see the attack in time and save Jalal.

b. Not finding Dilawar in the pot, Jalal is going to unleash his anger on Jodha. We are going to get that full angry Jalal promo scene where he tells Jodha to vanish. Jodha may plan to vanish during the night itself instead of in the morning.

I think Jodha is going to go off in the night - maybe she can leave a note telling Moti to go back to Amer - so that might be an indication that Jodha has NOT gone to Amer. I wish Jodha takes her Kanha with her - that will be a punch in the gut for Jalal - to see that Jodha has taken Kanha with her so for Jodha this is saying goodbye to Agra. That will work like a body blow to Jalal.

BTW I asked Ela how much the distance between Agra and Mathura is - she said less than an hour by car - so once Jalal knows where Jodha could have gone he can go to find her and reach her by night. So the "akele pan ki akhari raat" might not turn into Babaji ka thallu! CVs get Gajni sometimes but we do not!

That way Jodha will be found safe in Mathura - Jalal -AFTER BIG EAR BLEED FROM BLASTING GIVEN BY HB - will find her soon and will BE AWAY FROM HARAM AND AGRA - when he can do all his apologies, Jodha apologize for hiding the truth etc. I so want Jodha to say to Jalal - she accepts his apologies but since HE MADE HER REALIZE AGRA IS NOT REALLY HER HOME - COS SHE WAS THROWN OUT OF IT SO EASILY - she is going to stay in Mathura near her Kanha once place where she can safely say she has a place. So Jalal has to get frantic thinking she will not come back to him - that will make him MORE WARY NEXT TIME MA & RUKAYYA DIRTY BRIGADE GETS BACK IN ACTION.

Cos get back in action they will - WE KNOW Jalal will never ask them about their plotting - who knows he might give Rukayya another town as gift for spotting Dilawar Khan in Haram

c. The plotter then is going to make the attempt on Jalal's life but Dilawar will take the arrow and fall at Jalal's feet. Jalal will be aghast at being saved by Dilawar, and will begin to wonder who this Rajvanshi is, when Mansingh may come and say "OMG, that is my uncle Sujamal". Then the penny will drop for Jalal and he will let Sujamal talk, and Sujamal will tell him the whole story including how he overheard of the jashn attack and saved Jalal there once and how he himself got blamed, and then how he met Jodha to give her a vachan to save Jalal and to take a vachan in return that she will say nothing to Jalal ... blah, blah, blah. The upshot is that Jalal will now have plenty to rue about his treatment of Jodha over the last few weeks.

Hope Maan Singh is summoned to identify who the man from Amer might be and so once Sujamal takes the arrow (we all are assuming it is going to be an arrow! CVs like to mess us up how can we forget!) Maan Singh can straight away call him Sujamal Kakasa!

d. Jalal will run to Jodha's room to tell her not to go away, but he may well find the room empty for she has left in the early part of the night itself! A distraught Jalal will give Sujamal a vachan that he will find his sister and bring her back safe and sound and ask Mansingh to care for his uncle's recovery. Maham and Ruq will have to sit in a corner and lick their wounds ... while Adham and Sharif (whoever is the culprit) will have to beat a hasty exit before they get too implicated.

How much of all this will happen on Friday and how much next week is the only question left! I leave you all to guess. Despite the new "kiss promo" showing both Jodha and Jaja in a rich backdrop, I still feel Jodha will go to the jungle and that kiss will be after Jalal has discovered her and it may be in his khema in the forest.

Meanwhile I am not doing my usual comments on this episode except to say

1. "Wow, nice action after a long time." I love a thriller chase and I got one for the full 25 minutes. Paisa wasool.

2. I loved the quirky old copper pot for it was such a 16th century way of hiding inside a pot!

3. I absolutely loved the way Sujamal cut up sipahis like they were stick figures.

4. I especially loved the way he jumped from the terrace to the lower floor like Errol Flynn in the early black-and-white English movies.

It was all pure Sujamal yesterday ... and he had his full precious moments in the limelight. Now we have to wait for his oratory skills as he "tells all".

For tonight's episode, folks, tighten your seatbelts a little more. I am sure many of you may have fallen off your chairs while watching yesterday and we don't want a repeat of that!

Good episode yesterday very fast - hope we get the attack also soon and Sujamal tell all to Jalal and Jalal goes to search for Jodha. The making up should happen away from Agra and Haram.

BTW just a thought, will Jalal give dhakka and then confess (as Pals predicts will happen) or will the dhakka be MA & Ruk gloating how Jalal will treat Jodha - while Jalal will just confess.

I guess if he is on his knees apologizing then he will give the dhakka.

Once Jodha learns of the truth from Jalal's POV she will understand his jealousy and anxiety and what made him react seeing the circumstances - but seeing that he could so easily turn into a man who does not care about her safety - that he can throw her out in the dead of night very well knowing she has no place to go - Jodha should tell him they have a long way to go before there is real trust.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: skanda12

I feel jungle is a sure thing! Let's see ...😲


Mansi,

Someone on the forum has confirmed that there will not be any jungle track which was confirmed by Vicky Batra.It seems someone from this forum had met Vicky at a gym. I dont remeber the post though.. just for your information..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks for the post Mansi ...

u dont know how much upset today I am ... I missed the episode 😭... first I missed it at 8pm ... had some urgent work ... decided to watch at 11 pm ... finished all work by 10: 55 & there come the shock ... power cut from 10:58 to 11:40 😲... just imagine ... now at ofce all I can do is to read wu & all ur analysis ... just pray that I wont miss today's one ...cant afford it ...

See it online at the office ... if there's a problem, invite the boss also to watch with you!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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like u all i too loved yesterday's episode.😃 i wasn't watching episodes since monday. but felt like watching yesterday's since climax is near now.
loved ur analysis as well.in fact ur analysis sometimes make me watch episode again to catch the littlest of little detail u mention.
i now now know why jalal have always felt aloofness, even though surrounded by so many claimants who claim to love him,laugh behind his back when he is devastated for their own benefit. and now i know why he loves jodha, he knows he will always have a share in both his happiness and grief with her.
sujamal, even though a great fighter seemed lacking reflex.even when he heard jalal's bellowings was loitering after he left jodha's hojra.
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Originally posted by: cosmosandme

like u all i too loved yesterday's episode.😃 i wasn't watching episodes since monday. but felt like watching yesterday's since climax is near now.

loved ur analysis as well.in fact ur analysis sometimes make me watch episode again to catch the littlest of little detail u mention.
i now now know why jalal have always felt aloofness, even though surrounded by so many claimants who claim to love him,laugh behind his back when he is devastated for their own benefit. and now i know why he loves jodha, he knows he will always have a share in both his happiness and grief with her.
sujamal, even though a great fighter seemed lacking reflex.even when he heard jalal's bellowings was loitering after he left jodha's hojra.

maybe Suja was very sure of his own skills at the last-minute ducking!
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Originally posted by: skanda12

See it online at the office ... if there's a problem, invite the boss also to watch with you!


nice advice dear ...😊 ... then my boss will be in angry jalal's form like yesterday ... n i wont be a good sujamal ... 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Mansi,

I found the episode very nice. Finally got to see some sword fight and YES, someone mentioned that Sujamal attacked all the soldiers from front NOT from back. That is one evidence of his high warfare ideals. I wish Jalal notices this point as well.

So, Sujamal's heroism made me remember what Jalal did in Amer. Same thing he too did here. He Challenged the soldiers of the most powerful King in his OWN Fort.!!!.

I want to verify one thing. I mean ur opinion. When Sujamal refused Ruqs, he said to himself- 'Hum Rajvanshi hai, hum kisi Mughal ke pair nahi chu sakte. Mar jayenge par pair nahi chuenge'. So he was talking about him only, na.?. Not of all Rajvanshis.?.

2. Later while fighting also, he says a dialogue - 'Hum Rajvanshi Mughalon se nahi har sakte'. Or he says - 'Hum Rajvanshi 'hain' kabhi Mughlon se nahi har sakte. This 'hain' word was said or not ?
Anyways even if it was not said, i feel he was talking about himself only NOT about his entire clan. ???..
Even before this he had defeated Mughal forces and captured Mewat. So, he was asserting this fact only that - 'I have defeated them before also and will NOT accept defeat HERE ALSO'.

Even in that first dialogue to Ruqs he was referring to himSELF only.!!!.

You remember in initial episodes of JA, when he first meets Sharif, then Sharif says him to touch his legs, and Sujamal draws his sword refusing to do it. And there also he talks about himself only that he wont do it, he did NOT talked of his clan.!.

Somehow i feel, thAT dialogue was for Sujamal only which he said hum nahi har sakte. 'Coz before this also he had defeated Mughal forces in thr battle in Mewat.


Another point i thought was. Poor Jalal is ALWAYS surrounded by the ones whom he thinks are his MOST 'WAFAADARS' like - MA, Adham, Sharif. Atleast Amerians are not doing such plotting and treacherous moves to HARM Jalal ''politically'' and are not eliminating his wafadaars. But here Adham / MA / Sharif are 'ahsaanfaramoosh'. Adham killed even Pir Mohammed. One by one they are eliminating the most loyal ones of Jalal.

Leave all things aside, even Ruqs sided with MA and spoke a 'LIE' to Jalal about Dilwar Khan, which almost changed the meaning, that too with an intention of harming Jodha, whom she called her sister once. You remember when Ruqs gifted some 'moti/gem' to Jodha she said so. And now.?. Not even once she thought that Jodha is also a legally wedded wife of her 'Bachpan ka Dost'. Can't write more about her. I tried searching positive in her but ended up banging my head.

As i said 3 days back, the same story was shown - Even Hoshiyar is an 'aanstein ka saap'. He is still with Ruqs.

Seems BB is another one in making. But i hope she will understand the reality soon. And will NOT be a NEGATIVE character.

I Feel Pity for Jalal for being cheated, deceieved, by those who he feels are his MOST TRUSTWORTHY ones. Just want to see what will happen when he will come to know about all these 'conspirators'.

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