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Posted: 11 years ago
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Super analysis 👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52
Nice post Aunty, 😛 i was yearning for togetherness of akdha in action against evil minds. but i believe it doesn't seems to happen . jallu asking jo to go to amer was my worst nightmare to become true😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nirdosh Pashu Pakshi Raksha Kendra!...???

I laughed like a hysterical hyena...for I was saying to myself, please don't tell me that she is going to say that...and then you did. It's so Jodha...and so original.

About Ramarajya I don't know aunty to applaud her for her trust in the safety offered by Mughal sultanate or the amazing confident that the blanket really makes her invisible...That nose ring, has been rightly described by you. Remember in Ben track how she and Salima did a Superman and were there trailing ben in the bazaar in plain clothes in blink of an eye?? Has she lost the superpower of thinking capacity to disguise herself?

Perhaps Aunty the blanket is like the one the main lead used (or maybe it is the very one the lead used) in Malayur Mambattiyan...I don't think anyone wants to go anywhere near that one. Perhaps ?

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

However the precap turns this time, ...Aziza will later be declared as having told lies for the welfare of Mazhar or his family or for the noblest ideals and reasons possible under the sun. This time Mazhar will weep buckets and Jalal tanks.

Hey, maybe Aziza will lie for the sake of some unborn nirdosh balak fathered by some man in jail who happen to have gone to jail to save some nirdosh pashu pakshi?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Quit! *sob sob* I am as addicted to Rajat as Jalal as Jalal is to Jodha. Self-torture is hence unavoidable...😭
Btw one kostin...
Isn't meeting a person against whom the shahenshah has issued orders for shoot at sight, who has attacked the shahenshah's territory and killed the shahenshah's relatives and not telling the shahenshah about it also a crime that calls for a trial?

Its called treason, my dear. And that is when people happily shout
"OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!'
But then what will you get?
A sappy former Shehensha weeping the world wet asking her forgivess for every issuing that order for Sujamal's head, for he ain't no traitor ... he helped Jodha mata to save Jalal's life by seeking alms in a temple and meeting her in shady places.
When moti can get away with her insolance, why would Jodha the love of his life, the apple of his eye, the bane of his existence be sentenced to anything?
Where is that hunk that turns every red blooded female into a hot mess, when he held that puny dagger jodha aimed and sneered at her ' I like that fear that I see in your eyes...when you are with me you have nothing to fear, but who will save you from me?'... I don't know how Paridhi felt in that scene, my blood turned cold just watching it...the power he emulated, the fear he triggered, the respect he commanded...all by the wave of a hand, the flick of the eyelid and drop in the voice. No need to touch, no need to give long dialogues.
If the now Jalal, can be even a fraction of that...my days will be brighter.
Alas...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AJSharma79


Where is that hunk that turns every red blooded female into a hot mess, when he held that puny dagger jodha aimed and sneered at her ' I like that fear that I see in your eyes...when you are with me you have nothing to fear, but who will save you from me?'... I don't know how Paridhi felt in that scene, my blood turned cold just watching it...the power he emulated, the fear he triggered, the respect he commanded...all by the wave of a hand, the flick of the eyelid and drop in the voice. No need to touch, no need to give long dialogues.




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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello Aunty,
I have been a silent reader of your posts so far, n am posting here for the first time. Needless to say, awesome analysis.

My 2 cents on the recent developments:
Of late, Jodha is taking the emperor for granted, & this has been on the rise consistently.
1) Even her asking the emperor to vote for Ruqs was a bit OTT, bec how could she take for granted that otherwise Jalal WOULD have voted for her(Jodha) only?? 😕
2) Now, she continues to meet the Emperor's enemy(who happens to be her brother) WITHOUT his knowledge & consent. She could have easily convinced her bro that it would be impossible for her to keep such a promise & that it would get her into trouble.
3) After clearly sensing that Jalal was upset with her, she continues to ask him why were things not ok b/w them!!

Of course, she should look after the interests of her bro as well, but this is clearly not acceptable, cvs...now, the least that the cvs can do, is that when Jalal has his infamous showdown with her, he should ask her to leave Agra NOT bec he suspects her of having an affair, but bec the Mughal Sultanate cannot be taken for granted, even if Jodha wishes to take her husband for granted...






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Posted: 11 years ago
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❤️



He was so fearful & so capable of evoking FEAR, JUST the way you've described him!!!! 👏


That scene stunned me too.


If I had an ALPHA MALE sitting right on top of me, with his sharp eyes focused on me, unwaveringly, I would've FLED.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I know Trips...
but you know what this is NOT the first love story nor the last where the man at the beginning of the story is not the same one by the end of it.. 😆 we women have that power...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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🤗 periyamma..
I knew what your feelings on the track where so I expected this.. 😆

If you take a long, hard look at our Shahenshah-e-Hind now, what do you see? He does not know where he is, i.e. where he stands vis a vis his sabse zyaada kareeb Jodha Begum.

And where does he want to go? Obviously into the zone of her trusting him enough to keep no secrets from him, especially as he has repeatedly reassured her that she can do so with her dost, who would help her cope with any problem of hers. But he does not know how to get there.

Yes ^^^ this is the crux of the track per se... 🤓

cutting his finger on the edge of his khanjar. It is a masochistic gesture of inflicting pain on himself

Its more or less scenes to make shamsher/khanjar diwaanis like myself and Sandy happy 😆

Shaayad wo aaj raat bhi jayegi :

He sees her with a strange man in a desolate hut in the middle of the night, but he cannot summon up the courage to confront them on the spot. Or even to question her about it later. He is afraid that he will alienate her by what might be taken as his suspecting her virtue.

Instead, he goes to her rooms every night unannounced. After entering Jodha's hoojraand seeing for himself that it is empty, he looks despairingly at Motibai as if she could unlock the key to the puzzle that is Jodha. The way he looked back at Moti, as he says to himself that he knows where Jodha is, was the worst of all.

It needs to be understood that this is not a question of his suspecting Jodha of an affair. He does not, at least as of now, and rightly so. The question is not of her morals, but of propriety, of the honour of the Shahenshah and the Mughal sultanate. It is also a question, the only one that Jalal clings to even in his private thoughts, of Jodha's personal security.

I cannot imagine any man, even in this century, not to speak of a 16th century alpha male emperor, who is so afraid that this wife of his would throw him over as a friend (for Jalal is too scared to try to move an inch further than that even now, and with just thatdosti, he seems to thinks that he is on the doorstep of Elysium !), that he does not lift a finger to stop her from going again and again, at the dead of night and all alone, not just out of the palace but into the jungle next to the river, to meet an unknown man and confabulate with him behind the closed doors of a hut.

It is not just pure folly, it is insane.

This was my reaction the first day too.. 😕

What if Jodha had been stopped by a patrol when she was with Sujamal? The ensuing scandal would have reduced te honour of the Mughal imperial family to shreds. When Jalal rescued Jodha from committing suicide, he gave a big Jodha-style bhashan about the paramount need for him to preserve the honour of the Mughal sultanate. Where has all that gone now?
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To put it plainly, Jalal has clearly lost it.

My poor Jalal, can never win can he?😆


Helpless desperation: Let us come back to Friday last. I watched, with growing dismay, the abject helplessness in his face as Mahaam was pushing him, inch by subtle, camouflaged inch - with endless repetitions that Begum Jodha could do no wrong as she was paaksaaf, nek neeyat - into suspecting that very Jodha. The desperation with which he was resisting it, again inch by inch.

Maham's repeated lines are temporary means to keep the karni sena away, I thought.. till the latest spoiler that he DOES doubt her came about...loool...😆 anyway, MA's lines actually made more sense to me than either Jodha or Jalal's kaarnaame..


His refusal to confront Jodha because he would then be seen as suspecting her yet again was meaningless. He can object to her midnight trysts purely on the grounds of her own safety, and of propriety and the honour of the Mughal imperial family. Which respectable family would allow the women of the house to do what Jodha is doing? How did Bharmal react on learning about her nighttime boatride with Suryabhan? He wanted to strangle her.


Makes not an iota of sense... the whole thing doesn't aunty.. which is why I stopped analyzing.. now I'm watching it more for entertainment rather than obsessing about the tracks.. so these bits of illogic don't give me as much heartache.. 😊 I've shifted my passion to my story now, which is at least giving me richer dividends in the form of self-satisfaction!


When Jalal finally offers Mahaam the excuse that Jodha might have been meeting Sujamal, he adds that she would have been afraid to tell him so because Hum Sujamal ko apna gunehgar maante hain. Not gunehgar hai. And this is the man who has attacked and captured Mewat, a Mughal territory, and killed two of Jalal's close relatives.

I know, right?😆

What did Bharmal, and Jodha herself, think of Sujamal after he attacked Amer? How does Jalal now define an enemy when he is related to Jodha Begum? Remember, he does notknow that Sujamal has saved his life, so that factor does not enter into it at all. It is just his obsessive fear of offending Jodha, plain and simple.

And my heart sank, or rather it plummeted into my non-existent shoes ( I am always barefoot inside the house).

😆
Rajat was splendid as the clueless, depressed, haunted Jalal, who cannot bear the very idea that he has not been able to make Jodha trust him - see how here too he makes out that the fault is really his, not hers? .

He's scared of being bashed in the forum too aunty now..😆

Who repeats endlessly to himself that she can do nothing wrong and he is sure of that (but she can be, and is, exceedingly thoughtless and foolish).

If he would only face that fear up front and centre, and ask Jodha point blank, NOT whether she is cheating on him with another man, but WHY she is risking her honour and his, and that of the Mughal sultanate, to meet a strange man outside the palace, alone and in the middle of the night.

If he did that, THAT would be reality... that would mean a track could NOT stretch for 3 weeks.. that means we cannot have Jodha run away yet again into the jungles (for whatever reason) 😆

Because if he asked her point blank..she'd have to lie even more than she already is... and again Karni sena ki dar hai... plus the TV duniya strives on people being kept at the edge of the seat wondering 'Oh no' and 'My God!' 😆

There is a reason that serials low on logic are high on TRPs and vice versa!


NB:Whether this uncontrolled outburst is going to lead to her fleeing Agra and entering the vanaprasthashrama decades ahead of time remains to be seen. If indeed she does take refuge in the forest, we can be sure that when Jalal goes after her, apologises profusely forher acts of omission, and brings her back, it will not be before she has founded a Nirdosh Pashu Pakshi Raksha Kendra in the forest and got Jalal to fund it.😉

😆

Jodha:

She cannot read his moods, cannot hear the words he does not say, as most wives can with their husbands, using the fabled feminine instinct. It is the same now.

Even the least perceptive of women would have known at once that something had gone badly wrong overnight, seeing this drastic change from the dost who sought to share her worries and to ease them, the one who set the caged birds free because that was what she would like, to this remote new Jalal with the sharp probing questions and the weary disillusionment with which he refers to constant betrayal by those closest to him.



The only conclusion possible was that her guilty secret was out. But Jodha's face looks blank, and I doubt if any of the above penetrated into her cerebral processes.

It is only after the Diwan-e-Harem scene, where Jalal goes from the smouldering sarcasm with which he asks Jodha Batayiye, kaunsa naya kanoon lagoo karna hai, harem ka kaunsa rivaaz badalna hai?,

I actually liked that line a lottt...😛

Contrary to some views elsewhere in the forum, I do not think Jalal's overt anger here is due to his disappointment at Jodha Begum having let him down by failing to exploit her management talents to the full. It is because of the reason she offers for dropping out - her (sudden) personal problems. That, for Jalal, is like a red rag to a bull, as it is shorthand for her involvement with the Mystery Man in the hut.

Hmmm true...😕


Any woman with an iota of perceptiveness would have known how badly he was hurting. She would never have let this incredibly trusting, caring and supportive husband go away without reassuring and comforting him. She would have assured him at once that that she wanted to tell him everything, but was bound by a vachan she could not break, That she needed just a little more time,and then he would be the first, the only one to know all. Till then, she would implore him to trust her. What a difference that would have made!

😭


Sujamal: A ham of the worst kind. His exchange with the suspicious daroga at the temple would have been laughable even in a high school play. As for the suhaag ki raksha stuff, enough has been written about it already. It is pure poppycock, as illogical and senseless as can be. What if Jalal were to lead the campaign to retake Mewat? Would Sujamal protect him against his own Rajvanshi army?

Yes, he does not know that Abul Mali's co-conspirator, who was meeting him near that poisoned well, is Sharifuddin, because he cannot see his face from his perch on high. But he should, at a pinch, have been able to recognise Sharifuddin's voice, for after all he spent so much time with him preparing to conquer Amer!

😆


Finally, how does he propose to find out who the ghar ka bhedi out to get Jalal is, by hanging around near the Ambe Maa mandir looking like a suspiciously well fedfakir/bhikari?Does he imagine that someone is going to write the name on the temple notice board?

😆

I'm having fun now aunty just like you've said in your last line.. so, forgive my lack of enthusiasm😆 ...

this serial is purely entertainment for me henceforth!😊

Loved reading it 🤗 hope your eyes are better than last weel

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