Jodha Akbar - TE and his line of thought - Page 3

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Meri ek hee request hay cvs se ...Jallu ko uska dimag wapas kar do.. usse uska shamsheer chhin liye mahine me ekbar 5 seconds ke liye dete ho, thik hay man li, uska sundar figure chhinke use golu-molu bana diya, chalo yeh bhi man li ... lekin dimag to de do!! use buddhubanakar aur rulakar hi kya TRP chahiye aap logon ko? Rani sahiba ko bhi kuch karne dijiye samaj seva chhorkar. Use samjhaiye woh shadi shuda hay...shikhaiye prem kayse kiya jata hay ... chahiye to hum kuch books bhej de kya?
Jallu ka wapas girgirana rona dhona nahi dekhni mujhe ... lekin Rajat ko rote huye log pasand karchuke hay, to use abhi alag alag tarike se rote huye hi dekhenge hum sab ... Rajat ka rona = chart me no. 1 hona.
Cvs ka bhi dimag chori hua rahega nahi to movie ka copy kar dala itne dino ke baad !!
mujhe lagta hay pura ke pura team chhorke chala gaya koi saas bahu wala script likh raha hay to kya kore bechara copy/ paste kiye ja raha hay 😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Adi😆
One thing I am sure of is, when Jalal will explode, it will only due to Jodha's not trusting him (which he thinks) not out of any doubt on her character! Jalal is very well aware of Jodha's nature...he is dying inside coz she is not opening up even after hinting her many a times! Jalal doesnt know anything about the vachan..how I wish Jodha just assured him "I will tell you in right time..just have faith in me..I m doing this only for u," only these mere words would have healed him! I am sure Jalal kabhi kuch nahi poochta usse! He is hurt, dying inside only coz of her chuppi..he is crying thinking she doesnt trust him the way he does! he loves her and its his right to have some basic expectations.

and if spoilers r true, then it is Jodha herself leaves for jungle, Jalal will never banish her! he just cannot...
he needs to vent out...dil ka bojh halka hoga..there relation needs a shake!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Metamorphmagus

You are right. I watched the promo specifically to notice whether he says anything that suggests he doubts she is unfaithful. He didn't, which shows how much Jalal knows his wife. But that still doesn't explain why he was handling her so roughly and demanding an answer.



Dont we all shake a loved one when his/her actions compromising their safty frustrate us??? Shd that be called rough handling???
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Posted: 11 years ago
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tamy, you are sooo rt!!!! Their relationship needs to be shaken up!!!😛

TE needs to be shaken out of his passivity!!!!!😉

Mirchi needs to be shaken out of her stupor!!!!!😆

And the one who can do this shaking up is TE!!!!!😃
Edited by adianasr - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Hi all, am back with another post - this may rile many and pacify some - but this is my presentation of TE's line of thought on the actions of his Mirchi and on his line of questioning her.

So, let me get to the point - A lot of forumites are wondering on TE's line of questioning - and either asking why is he not catching the bull by the horns or saying how can Jodha answer when he is not questioning her directly. So here goes why -

If all remember, everytime TE questions Jodha on any issue, Madam takes on a very aggressive stance and confronts him with her own counter questions with a 'How dare you doubt me' attitude - The lastest in this was the murti kaand, where when TE came to ask her, she immediately shot back with 'Kya aap humare baare mei aisa sochte hain' - very typical response of people who are of the self - righteous variety - they will always get aggressive when such Qs are asked, thinking their character is being doubted - and this is what Jodha too is (No evolution in character graph CVs!!!)

TE has understood Jodha completely - I keep saying this and everytime I am being proven correct - So if TE asks her the Q right away, on who she is meeting, her response would be an immediate -'You are doubting me' - Pls watch the promo and watch Paridhi's expression and all will realise this is exactly what Jodha will be doing - and knowing this and since the issue is of a very sensitive nature and since TE sincerely does not doubt her character - it is for this reason that he has been asking her to share her troubles with him - and all Jodha needed to do was respond with a 'Yes I am troubled by some matter but am unable to share it with you now since I myself do not know or understand what it is. Once I have been able to do so, You will be the first person I will tell' - That is all he needed - And it is for this reason he has not asked her directly but keeps asking her indirectly.

As all have been stating why TE does not ask Jodha straight out - well he will do so (promo has told us that he will) and know this all of you - that all he will ask for is the truth (He has not doubted her character even in the promo), which Madam Jodha will interpret as an aspersion on her character by her husband - How a simple Q on who she is meeting in the dead of the night can suddenly become a crime I honestly dont know - but that is exactly what TE will be accused of having committed - Now how is TE supposed to know that Jodha was meeting Sujamal? Was he supposed to have 'Divya Drishti'? How was TE supposed to know that the meetings were about finding the person who wants to kill him? Is he supposed to have ESP? And how is TE supposed to know that Jodha loves no one other than him? Has she ever told him that he is anything more than Duty? Is he supposed to read her mind?

Coming to the spoilers and the promo, here is my take on all of it - If all remember the freeing of the caged birds and how all were citing it as symbolic - yes it was symbolic but the symbolism will be presented next week by TE. When he asks Jodha for the truth, she is definitely going to accost him with the 'Mere charitra par laanchan' and TE will finally set Jodha free of all her 'Vivaah Vachans' which he may cite as the cage that is holding her back - thus setting her free to do what makes her happy - Whether he sends her back to Amer or not I wont say now since I dont know, but I dont expect him to say it - since to my mind this will be about TE setting Jodha free, as he did the caged birds (even his dialogue of that scene - 'lo hum aapki uljhan durr kar dete hain' now makes sense here), it will be Jodha who may leave the palace in the middle of the night - like she did after the MC track to commit suicide - thus with a distraught Moti running to HB in the morning with the news that Jodha is missing and HB meeting TE and Moti finally opening up about Sujamal and of TE's Qing having upset Jodha - thus TE going in search of Jodha as he did in the suicide track.

This is my take, becoz this track is supposed to be over by mid next week and Jodha being sent to Amer is mere speculation since Jodha's going from the palace will not be a public affair (and going to Amer would be a public affair) but the action of a guilt ridden and emotional person, taken on the spur of the moment.

As for what happens, only next week will tell - but unfortunately my TE will be bashed just for asking a simple Q 'Where do you go in the dead of the night Jodha, without telling anyone and whom do you meet?' and for the act of setting Jodha free of all the duties that are pulling her down due to her 'Vivaah vachans', since, as per her own admission 'TE is her kartavya'!!!

My poor much maligned TE!!!


Hi Adi,

Wonderful post and I loved seeing someone speaking from a neutral perspective and who is not a pro-Jodha👏.

I have not watched the promo yet so I am not going to comment on it. But I do want to vent out my frustrations on what Jodha is doing in last few episodes😆. Sorry, ur post is the one I got for venting out😛😳.

I have read some posts where most of the ppl saying Sujamal is at fault for taking such a promise from Jodha. Excuse me!! Jodha is not a kid, she very well could have said no to Sujamal. No one forced her to promise at gun point

And lets not even go near the excuses that she has been giving for not telling Jalal the truth. Madam, are u the one who went to him repeatedly to convince him abt Benazir??? but this time, aap ne ek baar koshish karli to talk to him abt sujamal and then left it saying Jalal will not listen to u?

I always feel that showing loyalty to a person is very easy when there is no one else is involved. Since there was only Jalal and Jodha during ben track, Jodha has taken the step to sacrifice her life to prove her point. But now that her Rajvanshi bhai is in the picture, she forgets her loyalty to Jalal??

She gives such mahaan lectures on the honesty and rajvanshis, y the hell didn't she ask even once to Sujamal as to y he backstabbed mughals in mewar?

As usual with other BT heroines, Jodha has a big halo around her head and I am hating it.

If what is being said abt jalal asking jodha for forgiveness, that will be the heights!! Damn, For once show Jodha begging for sorry for her mistake!!!! Jalal has even told her on her face that she is lying to him. Even then the female doesn't get it!!! Oh god, what has become of the serial.

This time, its Jodha who allowed Maham to come in between them. Maham is right in one aspect, if Jodha is not at fault then why is she hiding the truth. Thats a very hard hitting point for Jalal.

- Krishi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Krishi. Welcome to the discussion.

As for this 'Herione is Mahaan', I think I will call Zee on Monday and tell them that we are fed up of seeing the heroine is mahaan all the time and in this particular track would actually like to see Jodha apologise to her husband for putting him thru such a situation!!! In fact seeing this entire track, I am now wondering on my own feminist and liberal stance and re-evaluating all situations!!! If the men today had one - tenth the liberal mindedness of this TE, I would say that women would be in heaven!!!

As for TE questioning Jodha - as most have said - even parents question their kids (boys and girls) when they see them meeting someone unknown surreptitiously in the middle of the night and then try to hide the same!!! Kya pati ka itna bhi haq nahin hai to ask his wife???? If it was the husband doing this, we all do believe that the wife has every rt to question the husband and we do not call it 'doubting his character' - Toh agar pati ne patni se yeh sawaal kiya toh it is 'doubting her character'???? I fail to understand the logic!!! I have always believed what is sauce for Gander is sauce for Goose and the reverse is also true - what is sauce for Goose is sauce for Gander too!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Adi.

Good Post.
In Serious time crunch. But want to read all posts here.
Keeping it short i have one statement to make.


Jalal is NOT wrong here.
He has the right to question her.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Hi Krishi. Welcome to the discussion.

As for this 'Herione is Mahaan', I think I will call Zee on Monday and tell them that we are fed up of seeing the heroine is mahaan all the time and in this particular track would actually like to see Jodha apologise to her husband for putting him thru such a situation!!! In fact seeing this entire track, I am now wondering on my own feminist and liberal stance and re-evaluating all situations!!! If the men today had one - tenth the liberal mindedness of this TE, I would say that women would be in heaven!!!

As for TE questioning Jodha - as most have said - even parents question their kids (boys and girls) when they see them meeting someone unknown surreptitiously in the middle of the night and then try to hide the same!!! Kya pati ka itna bhi haq nahin hai to ask his wife???? If it was the husband doing this, we all do believe that the wife has every rt to question the husband and we do not call it 'doubting his character' - Toh agar pati ne patni se yeh sawaal kiya toh it is 'doubting her character'???? I fail to understand the logic!!! I have always believed what is sauce for Gander is sauce for Goose and the reverse is also true - what is sauce for Goose is sauce for Gander too!!!


Oh would you pls pls pls tell the Zee parrot that picks up the phone to start focusing on Jodha and Jalal's characters and keep the parallel and side characters to what they are side and parallel characters and the shows name is Jodha Akbar and this is supposed to be their Epic Love Story.

The nonsense that they spout that the show is 80% fiction and 20% history, irritates me so much. Even if they completely fictionalize it, they are still using the names of very important characters in Indian History. Everybody knows who Akbar is, they cannot just up and show him as anything but a Shehenshah with that aura of power, of confidence in being the person who rules over Hindustan. This stupidity of turning a fantastic historical love story into a SBS is so dumb, its like showing people double cheese pizzas to pull them in and then serving them chapati pe aloo 😡

As far as feminism is concerned, the TV shows in India are so female oriented there is no place for feminism when watching these shows, like everything is about women's rights, at times it almost feels like somebody needs to stand up and fight for the men's right in these shows. 😆 I don't know what makes these channels, PH and CVs think that we wanna watch mahaan heroines and dhakkan heroes. Dear CVs, we like our men strong and smart thank u very much 😆

Wow saying all this did feel good, Thanks 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

Hi Adi.

Good Post.
In Serious time crunch. But want to read all posts here.
Keeping it short i have one statement to make.


Jalal is NOT wrong here.
He has the right to question her.


Hi Abhay, thanks and yes Jalal is not wrong here and asking a simple question does not mean he is doubting Jodha ka character - so the CVs shd not be showing her getting upset over it - it is concern that makes one ask these Qs!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JeannieJA


Oh would you pls pls pls tell the Zee parrot that picks up the phone to start focusing on Jodha and Jalal's characters and keep the parallel and side characters to what they are side and parallel characters and the shows name is Jodha Akbar and this is supposed to be their Epic Love Story.

The nonsense that they spout that the show is 80% fiction and 20% history, irritates me so much. Even if they completely fictionalize it, they are still using the names of very important characters in Indian History. Everybody knows who Akbar is, they cannot just up and show him as anything but a Shehenshah with that aura of power, of confidence in being the person who rules over Hindustan. This stupidity of turning a fantastic historical love story into a SBS is so dumb, its like showing people double cheese pizzas to pull them in and then serving them chapati pe aloo 😡

As far as feminism is concerned, the TV shows in India are so female oriented there is no place for feminism when watching these shows, like everything is about women's rights, at times it almost feels like somebody needs to stand up and fight for the men's right in these shows. 😆 I don't know what makes these channels, PH and CVs think that we wanna watch mahaan heroines and dhakkan heroes. Dear CVs, we like our men strong and smart thank u very much 😆

Wow saying all this did feel good, Thanks 😃



definitely Jeannie and will let all know what comes of the conversation too!!! I am so totally fed up of this 'Heroine Mahaan' formula of EK!!! Would now like to see a balance btwn the leads!!! And my TE back as a thinking, feeling, intelligent, loving and passionate Emperor!!! And a growth in Jodha's character - seems to be stuck in some world unknown to the rest of us!!!

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