Take 5: Celebrating 200 episodes on March 21st - Page 8

Originally posted by: sun29

the only thing that i cannot make sense of as much as i try is this whole harem fiasco..what was the need of that nonsense election if they wanted Jo to leave it within a week and it goes back to ruqaiyya...why all this fiasco and wasting one week and a maha episode on this stupidest election

as much as i wanted Jo to quit the job but the timing and reasons were all wrong ...

cvs sometime outdo their own senselessness

Originally posted by: ashpat

Divya!!! amazing post as usual.

I had posted this yesterday in one of the threads regarding harem issue.

When Jodha was selected as Harem-in-charge; I was ok with it as long as Akdha could spend time together.

But, when I saw the precap of Jodha wanting to resign; I had posted this on Mansi's thread day before yesterday before watching yesterday's episode.

About harem issue, i feel jodha should not give up harem based on the reason that she has some personal problems going on. There are several reason for it. First, just because she has problems, she cannot forgot the responsibilities that came with her winning of trust of other begum and Jalal. Then there was no point of tarazu scene in which jalal encourages jodha. Second, so many begums hopes were on her. Third, if she wants to give up harem bec of SB's advice then She should say that she wanted to abolish slavery on harem and she did and that was the reason she wanted to be in charge of harem. Her motive is fulfilled. Then it is understandable if she wants to resign but then she should also give this responsibility to someone who is responsible like SB or GB. If ruq is in charge again ,then she will behave just like before.

If Jodha wanted to resign, then she should have picked better reason and better timing. Now, I am worried that people like MA can give different meaning to this resignation.

Now back to today's episode, I really like salima and her advices. But, I am little confused about what she had said before harem elections that Jodha is better bec she can understand women and emotions etc and now same Salima said that this is not for her. So, she just wanted Jodha to clear the mess but what about when there will be mess when Ruq will run again or is now Ruq going to run better bec she saw how harem women did not want Jodha to resign and so just to show she is best; ruq will handle better than before I assume.

I totally agree with you that Jalal and Jodha have come so far in their journey.

I am going to paste what I wrote about this current track on some other thread.

I am really happy that Jalal trusts Jodha and is worried just about her safety. I have been worried about MU since sujamal track and hate MU in general anyway. Earlier I was worried that Jalal will misunderstand Jodha but he TRUSTS her a lot as shown in last two -three episode.👏 But, now I am worried that Jodha will misunderstand Jalal when he questions her according to promo. So, apparently I should be worried about MU either way.It looks like Jalal will be hurt that he is not able to win Jodha's trust and Jodha will be hurt that Jalal is not trusting her and doubting her. so either way there is misunderstanding. In this case, neither of them is wrong.

I really wished Sujamal did not ask her for vachan. Jodha is already feeling guilty and feeling she is doing "PAAP" by hiding from Jalal. I don't blame jodha becuase she is vachan -bound and as rajvanshi she will not break promise of her brother even if it meant harm to her or her relationship with jalal or to her prestige/dignity. But, I do not blame Jalal either because he trusted Jodha and is worried about her and asked her patiently if there is problem. So if he gets mad at her and ask her what is going on then it is understandable as long as it is between them and not public.They can fight inside their hojra and vent their frustrations and bring out passion, anger etc. I hope it remains private. But, I do not know if it will remain private or not because MA knows and now Ruq knows she goes out due to hoshiyaar.

I just hope Jodha does not misunderstand that Jalal is doubting her character and hope jalal tells her that he is not doubting her character but just worried about her safety. I do not want Jodha to be sent to Amer either. Jalal and Jodha needs to learn to solve their problems amongst themselves and neither of them cannot just decide ok she should go to amer whenever a big problem comes up. Due to vachan, Jodha cannot tell Jalal she met sujamal but Moti can save her by telling Jalal or may be Jodha can tell Jalal that person is helping her to find a traitor in palace who is trying to kill her husband but she cannot reveal the name of helper bec she is vachan-bound.

As an Akdha fan, as long as they are together and be a team against other enemies, I am ready for upcoming episodes. But, MU either from Jalal or Jodha, I will be heartbroken. I want them to have trust on each other as in be open to each other about things before they confess their love.

Today, Jalal even said that it might be Sujamal but MA is so sly and sneaky that she keeps insisting she belives Jodha is paak saaf but at same time keeps poisoning Jalal's mind. Gosh, I hate her. Please, Jalal keep thinking that it might be Sujamal or investigate urself and if needs to be just go in Jodha room and vent ur frustrations and tell her u saw her with a man but u're not doubting her character and is worried about her safety. Whatever Jodha and Jalal, u guys do please do it privately- fight, yell, scream, argue whatever IN PRIVATE.

For god's sake, CVS please wrap this track by end of next week. I cannot see my Akdha in pain who are so worried for each other yet not able to share their worries and I am not able to tolerate this track either. One thing I am happy about is that at least in this track, BOTH ARE DOING THINGS OR GETTING WORRIED FOR EACH OTHER and NOT TO HURT OTHER.

P.S. Neither of them are wrong in this case so when I read posts like I am with Jodha or I am with Jalal; I am like comeon when Jalal is saying he trusts Jodha and is worried about her safety and when Jodha is saying she is doing paap by hiding stuff but she is majboor and even Jalal thinks she is in some dabaav, when both of them are worried for each other, then why take sides 😳. No intention of hurting anyone with this P.S.. 😊

P.P.S- Can I please decide the punishment for MA? It will slow, painful, and very torturous that she will beg for death. 😡

P.P.P.S- Divya, sorry for long post. I am not able to post everyday in ur thread so thought "ke pre week ki kasar puri kardoona"lol

Originally posted by: lashy

One small gesture from her end..one look in the eye... just take his hand in hers with support/empathy/care.. look at him without flinching and say 'I started off doing something...I agree it is against Mughal kaide kanoon, but my intention was not wrong...I'm caught up in a bit of a trouble, but I have some theories and am seeking proof for it (Sujamal's innocence)... I want to get my head cleared a bit before I'll tell it all to you.. but, trust me when I want to say it you'll be the FIRST one I'll confide it all in...just give me a couple of days.. and you'll know what's happening...but, till then just remember this friend will wish you NO wrong and do you no wrong!'

This is all he needs! ^^^

Originally posted by: lashy

My heart went out through and through and through to Jalal...

Ever since the Ben incident, Jalal's been asking question after question after question after question ...teasing her about the dhakka to get her to retort...pleading with her to get something out...hoping she'd say something during the many times he's asked 'what's going on in your mind'...holding her hand to see if she'd accept his gestures...showing and voicing his support as a friend...advising her when she's low...TELLING her she can trust him...showing his hurt - EVERYTHING!

As far as I'm concerned at this point, he's made up for all the atrocities he's committed during the Ben kaand! After those 2 day tears in the dargah, I wasn't as moved as I'm today...at this point the kind of internal hurt he's swallowing every second that she doesn't speak up is tormenting! The fact that he's coming up with all sorts of theories (and today he hit the jackpot too) to pacify to his mind/heart is heart-warming! Even if we saw our best friend beginning to meet up with someone else and trying to coverup those meetings (for whatever reason), we'd start feeling insecure/jealous/possessive whatever after a certain point of time! This is his wife!

If a man today told his friends 'My wife's meeting up with someone at nights..I know she's loyal, but I don't know why she's not confiding in me.. maybe she's scared...maybe its her brother' He'd be nothing less than the laughing stock of his group...

If a woman told her girlie pals that her husband/boyfriend was having covert meet ups with another girl at night and lying to hide it...all her friends would jump upon her to get her to dig deeper and NOT just sit back and watch!

Here; this guy has been brought up amidst mistrust, deceit, power-play and backstabbing from those he called his very own. Yet, he's grown to trust a girl he's barely known for less than a year - all he asks of her is to show trust in him - that he'd do good for her and protect her! All he wants from her is confidence - friendship - trust. Can she not show this back? I have no doubt she cares for him - but, she hasn't understood him like he's understood her.

If not, she'd have shown the same trust by a bit of retrospect 'If I told him about Sujamal, he wouldn't raise his sword at once...he would hear me out...let me give him this benefit of doubt...'

Also, it's not like she doesn't know of the number of enemies Sujamal has... her own father possibly hates him as much as Jalal himself does...so, if her father was in battle against Sujamal would she still be meeting up with him at nights? Maybe... but, after a point doesn't make much sense and is not ethical either. She is a queen and she'd know that they're not the first pair of siblings that have been split up in politics - not then, not today!

Jalal said he's doubted her many times in the past and failed to be proved right, so he trusts her now - which means he's learnt from his mistakes. Then, what about her? Hasn't she mistrusted him many times in the past and been proved wrong too? Be it, the tent scene where he saved her from the snake, the body heat-fake pregnancy, Sukanya alliance etc? Yes, she swallowed poison for him and took humiliation upon her head..similarly, he too put his life in danger for her and bore humiliation from her and for her sake too! So, I don't understand why only he's the one ALWAYS being proved wrong?

I absolutely loved the way her portrayal was shaping up in the past three months, but this track is not so good...why is she needlessly losing her peace AND torturing him - for no real return?

I fail to understand what it is that the CVs are trying to make Jodha do..

It is something relatively straightforward...i.e. telling Sujamal that she can't meet him... or taking back a meaningless promise during one of her three-four meetings...or just confiding 'something' to her husband...instead, I feel she's getting sucked into a web of her own undoing further and further... and really in the past week, what has she achieved by staying quiet? I mean, in a palace of thousands of inhabitants where and how is she going to start investigating if she doesn't start telling her confidants about what's happening - WHAT CAN she achieve all alone by not taking anyone into confidence?

This is getting too painful to watch - but, this drama is far far far better than the MC, Fake pregnancy or the Ben kaand because it shows where both of them stand in their relationship now...

All these high-drama tracks ran low on logic.. but, at least this one has a proper husband-wife vendetta! 😊

I'm not saddened by the track - I'm saddened by the anguish Jodha and most of all, Jalal is going through!

Originally posted by: sun29

the only thing that i cannot make sense of as much as i try is this whole harem fiasco..what was the need of that nonsense election if they wanted Jo to leave it within a week and it goes back to ruqaiyya...why all this fiasco and wasting one week and a maha episode on this stupidest election

as much as i wanted Jo to quit the job but the timing and reasons were all wrong ...

cvs sometime outdo their own senselessness

Originally posted by: Gem12

1) to show for jodha its always jalal comes first..her husband..not even shehensha..
2)she is not after power..she is not interested n power...all who raised finger at her during elections ki takt ache ache ko badal deti hain-par jodha ko nahi..
3)for her jalal's life is more important than this power ..
4)jalal always used to say i thgt u were jealous of ben coz of audha... n once he said u saved me..this also proves that u are khas to awam n every one..then she sais she didnt do for any power...
5)jwen jo siad that she is ready to take care of harem b4 elections ..jalal told her so even now u are into power n audha..she replied ki use pad ke liye lalsa nahi hai...
6)to prove everyone how self less jo is ..she is not after power..she is not materialistic person..
7)jalal will realise end of this twist that he is the most imp person in her life..whr she can sacrifice her power,audha,her life for him n his happiness..

Originally posted by: RadhikaS0

hi my dear soothsayer,

no matter how worked up anyone might be after seeing an episode, just reading your post is enough to calm one down and makes for a good night's sleep 🥱 😆

agree on everything u said! Jalal and Jodha have progressed so much and are still modest about their journey so far, barely admitting anything even to themselves. On the other hand, MA/Ruq have fallen down from grace but still trumpet about their perceived victories.

I wish the next time MA comes to ask Jalal about Jodha, he tells her that he knows how to handle things as a king and as a husband and that if he needs MA's advice, he will call her. I am getting tired of her "Jodha is pure but why is she meeting that man who can't be Sujamal" speech. Can't she see that she isn't getting any expected reaction from Jalal. She is better off instigating Ruq.

Jodha and Jalal have progressed to single-minded dedication to each other's safety and well-being and happiness. They are immediately drawn to the other when the other is in a dilemma or turmoil. They can't bear to see the other in pain. They can't bear to live apart for long and find excuses to see each other. Look at how Jalal is going to check on her every night. Not out of distrust. But out of concern that she may be unsafe if venturing out alone at night.

(yesterday, I gave you one reason why Jalal won't send Jodha to Amer. Today, I give you 2 more:

1. He can't bear to be apart from her for even a day. So even the new spoiler you mentioned is highly doubtful.

2. He knows the guy is from Amer. He won't send her to Amer where she can meet that guy without his knowledge and probably run away with!)

Both Jalal and Jodha have found well-wishers in the form of HB and SB.

Both love Rahim as their own son.

Both like the same set of loyal people like Atga, Man SIngh and MH (so far).

Both are duty-conscious and put honesty and responsibility before their personal comfort.

Both value relationships and people and are highly tolerant and forgiving of the worst offenders.

Both want to set things right in the Sultanate even if it means going against established customs.

Both are unattached to auda. Jalal was ready to give up the throne to protect her right to remain a Hindu. She is ready to give up the harem warden position and even her life and honour to protect his life.

Two people from such diverse backgrounds who married for all the wrong reasons are today embarked on a beautiful journey in search of true love and happiness in spite of all the negative forces around them. Why do you say the 200th episode isn't great? A Rajvanshi who values her honour above everything is ready to stake that honour for the sake of her husband's life. An emperor with a harem full of beautiful women is ready to stake his manlihood by appearing to be weak enough to trust a seemingly cheating wife.

Last point: I now think Jodha left the harem post to focus all her energies on protecting Jalal. If she had gone to him before resigning then he would have somehow persuaded her to continue as harem head. That's why she sprang it on him in public where he had no choice but to accept her decision.

PS: If we keep a pet also, we love it like our child. How can MA be so ruthless in hurting Jalal after having nursed him as a child? I hope she gets double the pain she has given him before she dies.

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Originally posted by: munnirony

jodha is self less no doubt. & for her jalal comes 1st. but the point is not just about the power, its about the responsibilities. all the begums & bandi's who had supported her & went against ruku. why?? bcoz they wanted a better treatment. maybe the slavery system has been abolished, but those begums who were pissed off with ruku's ill-treatment, will be in the same mess. i cant understand SB as well, bcoz was she who had said tht harem responsibilities should be taken by tht person who have feelings for others. in this case jalal is right, tht issues doesnt end with just the slavery system. there can be much more sensitive issue.