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Posted: 11 years ago
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buddy nice post😊but i feel she failed as a friend at sometimes and as a wife also...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Is Ruq good at heart? This itself is debatable, how do we define a good person? Just because a person is good just to one person, and thinks that the person is in shell makes that person good or being bad to one person makes that person bad?

The problem with Ruq is, she loves herself too much and she thinks that she loves Jalal, but she is very insecured and she wants to be loved or being pampered only by one person. Infact she doesn't even want to be loved, she wants attention, power and the thought that she is irreplaceable is needed.
And yes she slapped Hoshiyaar when he said to kill the unborn child of Jodha because it was Jalal's, like Adi said in another thread, she was ok about this because Jo wasn't in love with Jalal or she wanted to be close to him, so she never felt the threat of being neglected, even though she was hurt that she was loosing the position of Muz.
In one of the episodes, she hersetlf had said (when Jo had saved Moti), that for her nothing is more important than "harem", even now when she said that she wants to spend time with Jalal, it is to make sure that she gets the attention and importance from Jalal again and to make Jodha loose it while handling Harem responsibilities.
She is a very shallow person and she only believes or gets carried away with people. And if not MA, any other person can do her brain wash, and everytime Jalal will not be there understanding the issues and try to help Ruq to come out of it or to make her feel secured.
Jalal can explain her and make her understand for a "short period" only, as she is not a person who learns from her mistakes or thinks deeper. In this case it is not possible for her to find her "heart" or think by "heart", like Salima put in one episode to her, declaring that Jalal has no heart, she has lost her heart, but I feel she has not just lost her heart, but lost her brains as well.
She is a very weak person by mind and heart and a person who cannot think by herself what is wrong or right, can easily be misguided and she can keep doing the same mistakes again and again.


So So agree wd ur points . i still remember moti adham track ... she kept quite even though she knew abt AK's entry in harem that night n let moti to die đŸ„±
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Posted: 11 years ago
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So So agree wd ur points . i still remember moti adham track ... she kept quite even though she knew abt AK's entry in harem that night n let moti to die đŸ„±
***Yes Sonali, a person cannot be good or redeemable because he or she loves a person the most, for the sake of saving her love, you cannot be cruel, insensitive to others, I am not saying, pls help others, that's when you are called good, but pls do not harm others or insult others to prove your point or to show your power.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonilausarun


So So agree wd ur points . i still remember moti adham track ... she kept quite even though she knew abt AK's entry in harem that night n let moti to die đŸ„±



s buddy i remember moti adham track and ruks keeping quiet..had moti been killed wat wud she do nothing..she knows that bcz of her silence one person is at death stil she kept silent and hide this matter from jallu how heartless n merciless is she...no wonder she is heartless its clear from that track only...buddy u know evrytime i see her onscreen i always wish that someday this motiadham issue also shud be out and shud be known to jallu,,,
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi,

It is good to have feedbacks like yours that make me think...😃
As I said, I'm not anti Rukku. In fact I hope she realises her mistake soon and will always be a part of Jalal and Jodha's live.


Originally posted by: munnirony

well both love each other just as friends. i dont agree tht both r stuck with each other just bcoz they r husband-wife or their relation is just about a heir. Well, it is 16th century where divorce is not an option so I can't comment if they stuck with each other as husband and wife or not.


Their relationship is also real & their friendship is without any power or position. jalal really cares for her & we had seen it even during murti issue.
Yes, no doubt that Jalal do care about her as his childhood friend and a dear friend who has been there during his struggle. But only now we'll we know it is a real friendship from her side. Because now she'll prove herself if she is the real friend of Jalal by choosing to let him love Jodha or not by continuously hurting the person Jalal loves the most, Jodha.
Maybe she'll pass the test with flying colour or maybe not.
but when it comes to love as a lover, jalal didnt fell in love with her, bcoz love doesnt happen evrywhere. his is in love with jodha thts a fact. ruku also cares for jalal & the best eg. is she slapped hoshiyar when he told her to kill jodha's baby, despite she knew tht she might loose MUZ auda.

I couldn't agree with this. I felt that she didn't feel threaten about MUZ audha at that time because she believes that both Jalal and Jodha didn't have any romantic feeling for each other. She believes that she is still Jalal's number 1 and Jodha is just the mother of his child. The first time she really shows and feels insecure about her audha is when Hosyiar said that Jalal and Jodha had a relationship that is trust and that was why he believed that Jodha didn't have any affair and even lied to her and HB to protect Jodha. That was why she called Jodha to her room and asked Jodha if she started to like Jalal after she saw a in tears Jodha after Jalal's speech about the fake pregnancy. But, she really feels the desperation when Jodha drank that poison and when she saw Jalal's tear when he firmly as her to leave him and the unconscious alone. That is why right after Jodha regain her consciousness, she went to her room and said that she will give anything Jodha wants except Jalal.

but ruku's problems r tht she cant tolerate the fact tht jalal can be mentally or emotionally involved with other women. AgreeđŸ‘đŸŒ, mentally and emotional are essential to a friendship. While, physically and emotionally play big roles in love lives.

as u said both jalal & ruku had troubling childhood & they had learnt from childhood tht they can survive only bcoz of power & position. but despite all the wrongs jalal did, he havent completely lost his emotions. thts why he felt for abdul, zaheer or BK even when jo was not there. but sumhow ruku had lost her emotions, & thts why when jalal was upset about BK's death, she wasnt bothered about it. AgreedđŸ‘đŸŒ

as days passed by her auda obession increased & it became imp. to maintain it. she felt tht if she looses power she might loose jalal as well.
I can't understand this. Isn't the power comes with Jalal? I think 'if she looses Jalal she might loose the power as well' is more accurate. That is why she is doing what she is doing now. Making sure Jodha is too busy to be with Jalal so she can make sure he'll be with her only and even when she said that, she is still thinking about audha by believing that Jodha is not going to be able to handle harem and she will get the audha back...

2ndly, jalal is the person who always tried to learn from his mistakes, but ruku never tries to do tht. as per polygamy goes those days it was common. & jealousy was also a normal thing. as salima had said even she was jealous of BK's 1st wife. but its the queen's responsibility in those times how to handle it.

Agree about the jealousy, Salima was jealous because she loved BK like she said to Jodha. And Salima handled her jealousy well by the way she loves Rahim. But the question is, does Rukku feels jealous because of love or because of the power the other wife might get if Jalal favours the other wife? If she is jealous because she loves him, then why does Jalal never felt that kind of jealousness and possessiveness as he feels from Jodha. Jealousy is like love, it is very hard to be hid and it will surface no matter how good you are at acting. Remember, whenever she started to sound jealous and Jalal just has to say something about her audha is save, Jodha can never replace her, then she will immediately forget about anything and happy again. But Jodha (not a pro Jodha or anti Rukku, love them equally but I just want to show the different between Jodha love and Rukku friendship) when Jalal asked her what is the different between her and Rukku when both will be angry because someone ruins their chance to be with him, Jodha immediately says that it was not because of audha but because of her love for him.That proves a lot.


as per jalal goes he had given ruku enough imp. & freedom, so we cant say tht jalal didnt cared for her. he loved her as well. but regarding love as a lover, most of the relationships in those days were arranged so if she wants love from jalal as a lover it will be a wishful thinking. As I said, I never doubt Jalal's love for her as his friend.



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Nicely written post 👏
I agree wid u and being at ruqu's place I can understand her...I think she deserves 2 Chance as everybody has a right for it but that too wid a warning dta it would be last and final chance
Moreover nobody is similar ruqu is far more different than jo and same goes for jo.if jo would have grown in an environment where ja and ruqu have been brought up den she might be same as ruqu,a heartless creature
As jo was grown up in very friendly and less of war type atmosphere which is opposite in case of ja and ruqu. Her childhood had made her an insecure or possessive person of her position in both jalal's lyf and in sultanate that's why she is behaving lyk dis to secure her future,her audha.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@rayyanaziz, its just a discussion & point of view. & relax im not at all viewing this as anti-ruku. even i criticize jodha, jalal, ruku 😃many times, so u have the full right to give ur point of views as well.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ruqu loves jalal a lot... thats why she is so much possessive about him, the thought of lossing Jalal to any other women makes her go mad...and she is choosing an any easy method to get rid of that Katra of other women in jalals life...
she is in fear of loosing her husband love and trust to Jodha...

in fear she dont want to use a long resulting method to get her love back, as she dont want to wait for long time to get her husband back to her hojra, she is using instanst 2 minutes noodles method...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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ok coming to ur points, i still believe she slapped hoshiyar bcoz she cares for jalal & his child. she has her feelings for jalal, but her jealousy towards other begums over shadows it. ruku loves jalal as a friend & tht feelings r from childhood & auda thing came after tht. so tht friendship feeling is genuine for sure. but its jalal who made her the begum-e-khas so the day it happened she started to relate it with her imp. in jalal's life. so actually she feels tht if her begum-e-khas title is not there tht means jalal will also wont give her any imp. till now she had believed it tht way. but now there is sumone like jodha, who is imp. for jalal, but dont have any auda. even during the salim chisti trip she clearly saw tht jalal just wants love & care, with or without any auda. so the contradictions r in front of her, but she is not ready to accept tht. she actually wants jodha to believe the same which she believes. 2ndly, her love is definitely just as a friend bcoz she havent developed any other feeling bcoz of this whole harem auda. now she is definitely obsessive about auda no doubt & she only knows tht she has to keep other begums away from jalal mentally & emotionally. but i feel if anyone can bring out the original child ruku i believe she will also understand & realize her mistakes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i fully understand your point of view
but i do not have much sympathy with ruq
she herself too is responsible to some extent
for all that has happened with her till now
did she show sympathy for jodha ?
is she merciful enough ?
no i do not feel so
as u sow so shall u reap

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