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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jshweta16


My concern is same! this is in fact butchering of his sense of justice.

Agreed Jalal and even the real Emperor had soft corner for his relatives. But how many times he should forgive them ? This will surely give a wrong message in awam



Jalal did not pardon BB ONLY for being pregnant - I think he did it for 2 reasons

One is Jodha says Mugal kanun is if victim pardons the guilty - she had pardoned BB

Secondly Jodha talks about unborn child being harmed - I think somewhere Jalal is very vulnerable about child being without parents cos of his own upbringing where he missed his parents terribly. So both these arguments swayed him, though Jodha probably does not have idea about his strong feelings about the 2nd.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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i was a bit comforted reading your analysis for the tarazu scene mansi
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



<font size="2">Jalal did not pardon BB ONLY for being pregnant - I think he did it for 2 reasons

One is Jodha says Mugal kanun is if victim pardons the guilty - she had pardoned BB

Secondly Jodha talks about unborn child being harmed - I think somewhere Jalal is very vulnerable about child being without parents cos of his own upbringing where he missed his parents terribly. So both these arguments swayed him, though Jodha probably does not have idea about his strong feelings about the 2nd.
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But Maddy, future criminals can bring up same points in defence of their cases.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO



Jalal did not pardon BB ONLY for being pregnant - I think he did it for 2 reasons

One is Jodha says Mugal kanun is if victim pardons the guilty - she had pardoned BB

Secondly Jodha talks about unborn child being harmed - I think somewhere Jalal is very vulnerable about child being without parents cos of his own upbringing where he missed his parents terribly. So both these arguments swayed him, though Jodha probably does not have idea about his strong feelings about the 2nd.

Maddy
The first reason is very valid. Being the prime offended, she had the right to forgive BB and Shariffu, just like Ruqaiya and Mirza Hakim had.
I also agree with Mansi that Jodha's pain moved Jalal, the way it did when she spoke for Bharmal to him.
But the second reason is totally unacceptable. So if Javeda is pregnant when AK kills Atga, does he stand to be pardoned as his nirdosh unborn child will miss his parents and thus be harmed. For that matter all criminals and offenders and gaddars will have family and children who will miss their father and suffer when the father is punished. Can all criminals with born and unborn children go scott free then? As otherwise their nirdosh baalaks will question Jalal 'hamara aparadh kya hai'.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi
Nice post. Your post is better than the episode itself in which Jalal-BB scene was the only one that stood out.
The precap was postponed.😡😭
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Maddy

The first reason is very valid. Being the prime offended, she had the right to forgive BB and Shariffu, just like Ruqaiya and Mirza Hakim had.
I also agree with Mansi that Jodha's pain moved Jalal, the way it did when she spoke for Bharmal to him.
But the second reason is totally unacceptable. So if Javeda is pregnant when AK kills Atga, does he stand to be pardoned as his nirdosh unborn child will miss his parents and thus be harmed. For that matter all criminals and offenders and gaddars will have family and children who will miss their father and suffer when the father is punished. Can all criminals with born and unborn children go scott free then? As otherwise their nirdosh baalaks will question Jalal 'hamara aparadh kya hai'.



Sandhya I agree to your point. But there are 2 justice systems one for rich and one for poor, that is true even today

I am waiting to see how Sharif will be pardoned, I hope Jodha does not ask for it
But suppose she makes a point that Sharif gave the vital information that Ben was planning to kill before Nikah and Sharif helped save Jalal's life then he saved the life of an emporar

Adham has got pardon even when he killed innocents before
BUT WHEN he KILLS Adga Khan since he was such an important part of Jalal's Darbar, HIS relative and also after that Adham goes on rampage in haram all this PLUS Jalal only tolerates Adham for Mayhem's sake he has no real feelings for him - Adham will be meted instant justice, I thin in JA movie Adham also tried to attack Jalal - so each case is different

BTW - if Mayhem was present when Adham is killed I am sure even if Javeda was not pregnant she would have used that excuse to spare Adham's life

Again I am just guessing this but then when it comes to rich and powerful every argument is in their favor
Will a peasant dare to make such an argument to Shehenshah! Your guess is as good


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Maddy

The first reason is very valid. Being the prime offended, she had the right to forgive BB and Shariffu, just like Ruqaiya and Mirza Hakim had.
I also agree with Mansi that Jodha's pain moved Jalal, the way it did when she spoke for Bharmal to him.
But the second reason is totally unacceptable. So if Javeda is pregnant when AK kills Atga, does he stand to be pardoned as his nirdosh unborn child will miss his parents and thus be harmed. For that matter all criminals and offenders and gaddars will have family and children who will miss their father and suffer when the father is punished. Can all criminals with born and unborn children go scott free then? As otherwise their nirdosh baalaks will question Jalal 'hamara aparadh kya hai'.


But my point is Jodha's role finished the day she forgive BB and stopped Jalal from giving her any harsh physical punishment. Now the BB in house-arrest is the culprit of Mughal sultenate as she had accompanied the Baagi Sharifuddin.

Regarding the second point, I do not think the child will ever blame Jalal for ruining his childhood as anyone of his begum can take care of him/her as her own child. Jalal is surely vulnerable but when it comes to the well being of sultenate he always puts his personal issue aside, no matter what and this is what an emperor should do.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Mansi im coming back to reply about what I Feel in bakshi case. ..right now just feel when will that day comes when jalal weighs jodha and rukaiya with his ring lolz a wishful thinking. ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@maddy..

Regarding still born child.
That's the reason i wrote either MC or fake preg. :D

will update if get some new info.
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nabiii

Mansi,when a drop of venom is poured in milk the total milk becomes venomous..n yesterday's episode was like this venomous milk to me..obviously i have no complain with jj's scene,it was well executed..i m not even profusion upset that not for getting jalal drying jodha's hair scene,i liked to see ja-bb's siblings bond after a long period..nevertheless, some repeated scenes were destroyed the whole taste of yesterday's episode..ruq-mah's same nuisance altercation's scene, adh-jav's forcefully tickle type scene were quite baseless to me at the present stage of show n these filler scences killed almost half part of whole episode.

I didn't find it to be a filler episode! Matter of individual perception!

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