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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42
Hi Manasi,
Beautiful analysis. 👏
I always love reading what you have written, but today was extra-beautiful. You explained the Tarazu scene and cought the implicit and explicit communication and love between Jodha and Jalal very well. You have excatly written what I too have felt about that scene.

Tarazu scenes have been my personal favorite in this serial so far. They always had deeper meanings and symbolisms. Today's was no exception.

Wonderful words from Maham too. That the Ruq has moved so ahead in the game with her Audha and power play, that she has left Jalal alone. And Jodha has filled that void for Jalal. I too felt that Maham has left all hope for Ruq.

I was wondering, since Maham is all about power play, why is she not buttering up Jodha? She already knows that in the coming day's Jodha is going be more and more influential with Jalal. She is sharp enough to desert the sinking ship and all. Why has she not left Ruq's ship? Is it because she accused Maham of killing Jalal's child and then adham too during Tasneem's case? But, she can easily overcome that if it means she can still have the power. She is intelligent enough to do this.

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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: skanda12

When they get lots of feedback that viewers are getting restless and want to see faster culmination of tracks, they usually respond with dialogues like this to give us a hint that have "got the message" ...

hmmm... you have a point here...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: kmmdesai

Hi Manasi,

Beautiful analysis. 👏
I always love reading what you have written, but today was extra-beautiful. You explained the Tarazu scene and cought the implicit and explicit communication and love between Jodha and Jalal very well. You have excatly written what I too have felt about that scene.

Tarazu scenes have been my personal favorite in this serial so far. They always had deeper meanings and symbolisms. Today's was no exception.

Wonderful words from Maham too. That the Ruq has moved so ahead in the game with her Audha and power play, that she has left Jalal alone. And Jodha has filled that void for Jalal. I too felt that Maham has left all hope for Ruq.

I was wondering, since Maham is all about power play, why is she not buttering up Jodha? She already knows that in the coming day's Jodha is going be more and more influential with Jalal. She is sharp enough to desert the sinking ship and all. Why has she not left Ruq's ship? Is it because she accused Maham of killing Jalal's child and then adham too during Tasneem's case? But, she can easily overcome that if it means she can still have the power. She is intelligent enough to do this.

Love
Kshithi



She don't want Jodha to get the power... Even though she is sensing the change in JJ equation, but she very well knows that Ruqu may give up on Jalaal, but will not agree to loose the power...MA is just using Ruqu insecurities and somewhere keep reminding her to go after Jalaal & be his wife and all but Ruqu overconfident & blind to see the reality ..

If MA goes to jodha also, she can't instigate Jo against Ruqu, as she knows JO is different & not interested in power, also if she goes to JO then she will loose Ruqu who is puppet & also somewhere believe her words.. Now ruqu can go against her & her son, infact Ruqu gave pardon her son Adham... If she see JO is interested in power & also jalaal ready to give her then she might jump into JO party until now she is just using Ruqu to stop JJ closeness...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786



She don't want Jodha to get the power... Even though she is sensing the change in JJ equation, but she very well knows that Ruqu may give up on Jalaal, but will not agree to loose the power...MA is just using Ruqu insecurities and somewhere keep reminding her to go after Jalaal & be his wife and all but Ruqu overconfident & blind to see the reality ..

If MA goes to jodha also, she can't instigate Jo against Ruqu, as she knows JO is different & not interested in power, also if she goes to JO then she will loose Ruqu who is puppet & also somewhere believe her words.. Now ruqu can go against her & her son, infact Ruqu gave pardon her son Adham... If she see JO is interested in power & also jalaal ready to give her then she might jump into JO party until now she is just using Ruqu to stop JJ closeness...


Hi Abhi,

You are right here.
I somehow feel that, inspite of Jodha's honesty and disregard for power, Maham may have to stay in good books of Jodha. Just for her to stay afloat. Ruq seems to be a sinking ship.
Yes, Maham can not do any direct harm to Jalal or anyone when Jodha is around. But, she can still carry on with her 'Social service' behind their backs.

If anyone can pull this off, it is Maham.

Lets see how this one works out. 😃

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Kshithi
Edited by kmmdesai - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: kmmdesai

Hi Manasi,

Beautiful analysis. 👏
I always love reading what you have written, but today was extra-beautiful. You explained the Tarazu scene and cought the implicit and explicit communication and love between Jodha and Jalal very well. You have excatly written what I too have felt about that scene.

Tarazu scenes have been my personal favorite in this serial so far. They always had deeper meanings and symbolisms. Today's was no exception.

Wonderful words from Maham too. That the Ruq has moved so ahead in the game with her Audha and power play, that she has left Jalal alone. And Jodha has filled that void for Jalal. I too felt that Maham has left all hope for Ruq.

I was wondering, since Maham is all about power play, why is she not buttering up Jodha? She already knows that in the coming day's Jodha is going be more and more influential with Jalal. She is sharp enough to desert the sinking ship and all. Why has she not left Ruq's ship? Is it because she accused Maham of killing Jalal's child and then adham too during Tasneem's case? But, she can easily overcome that if it means she can still have the power. She is intelligent enough to do this.

Love
Kshithi

That is a very very good point about why maham has not latched on to Jodha after seeing she is ascending in power. I suspect it is because Jodha is not vulnerable to manipulation like Ruq. Maham can only work her chaals through someone who buckles under manipulation (i.e. that person must have some excessive emotional needs or weaknesses to exploit such as greed, insecurity, avarice, emotionality, moodswings etc etc.) Jodha may not be perfect but she is well brought up on good sankaars so she tends to be philosophical and driven by principles. That won't suit Maham, since she will always question whatever Maham says and not accept her judgements as gospel. Also maham has already showed her bad side to Jodha so now if she suddenly acts different with Jodha, this Jodha won't easily accept that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: happygolucky099

awesome update manasi

loved it

Thank you!😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

That is a very very good point about why maham has not latched on to Jodha after seeing she is ascending in power. I suspect it is because Jodha is not vulnerable to manipulation like Ruq. Maham can only work her chaals through someone who buckles under manipulation (i.e. that person must have some excessive emotional needs or weaknesses to exploit such as greed, insecurity, avarice, emotionality, moodswings etc etc.) Jodha may not be perfect but she is well brought up on good sankaars so she tends to be philosophical and driven by principles. That won't suit Maham, since she will always question whatever Maham says and not accept her judgements as gospel. Also maham has already showed her bad side to Jodha so now if she suddenly acts different with Jodha, this Jodha won't easily accept that!


You are so right Manasi.

But we can not also forget that family or Jalal is also her weakness sometimes. Sharif is exploiting it to get out the Jail. Going by the spoilers, Jodha do get him released. So, how difficult it is for Maham to pull this of? She is by far the most intelligent person in Agra right now.

But, this is just speculation, since Sharif is still in jail. 😃

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Kshithi

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Posted: 11 years ago
#49
Mansi, good post but I'm not convinced with yesterday's episode! 😔
Jalal asking Gulbadan phufi what his revered Father would have done in such situation does not mean he should do the same! Humayun was suffered most because of his brothers! Then Jalal repeating the same mistake and the ladies asking him to follow his father's steps did not make sense to me! Hamida and Gulbadan seems to have forgotten what Humayun's dear ones did to him. Once burnt twice shy does not apply to Mughal Household. 😕
The taraju scene was beautifully executed but I'm not satisfied with the logic of Jodha. I remember Jalal once in his agony punished the pregnant lady to be stoned to death for her infidelity once the child is born. Now wasn't that injustice towards the new born ? Or he did not change his decision then cause Jodha was not there to put sense into him! 😲 ...BB's child once born can be brought up by someone else like Salima is bringing up Rahim. There is no question of injustice, Jalal will love the child as his own. Or is this forgiving BB act was to make a re-entry for Shivani/tej ? so that Jalal will have to forgive them too to be on equal terms with Jodha. If Jalal keeps on forgiving the culprits then criminals will not think twice before committing crime. Bakshi is in fact a grown up lady and older than Jalal, she must be knowing Jalal will either kill Jodha or leave her then deliberately making such mistake is not forgivable just because she is pregnant. And though Jodha did not ask to release Sharifuddin yesterday I'm sure she will ask Jalal to do so soon as she never learns form her mistakes.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kmmdesai


You are so right Manasi.

But we can not also forget that family or Jalal is also her weakness sometimes. Sharif is exploiting it to get out the Jail. Going by the spoilers, Jodha do get him released. So, how difficult it is for Maham to pull this of? She is by far the most intelligent person in Agra right now.

But, this is just speculation, since Sharif is still in jail. 😃

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Kshithi

I wouldn't say family is a "weakness for Jodha" and that's why she is helping free Sharif.
Actually she was put in that uncomfortable position of getting info from Sharif because family (i.e. Jalal) refused to believe her. She needed to get as much info as possible to try and get some proof.
She did not go to Sharif due to her own needs for power or greed for position. She went to try and save Jalal's life. That's not a weakness, that is her strength that she does not let down family. She is willing to put herself at risk just to help family.

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