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Posted: 11 years ago
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Your analysis always springs positivity and dear that is what I like👍🏼
Thanks dear😳
But honestly bolu to I didn't like the kheema scene😕 Very bad editing, which left like a Fill in the Blanks for us viewers. I have watched the kheema scene so many times, I saw when Jo stood there and told that she wants to sleep outside to Jallu, there was a catch in her voice that expressed sadness. I am pretty sure, Jallu noticed that too.

On the contrary if she was ok with the arrangement, the tinge of sadness would not have been there. She would have said this plainly.
No, I didn't say she was ok with sleeping outside..my take is that Jalal didn't notice her being not ok with it because in the follow up scene his expressions didn't depict empathy...only longing...
Also, I said I think what followed (which wasn't shown really) should have been something good because Jalal and Jodha both seemed to be at a very happy place on their return to Agra!

So I was expecting Jallu's dialogue with Ruq. But kya hua, cut Monday and he was sleeping beside Ruq.😕 There was so much more to the scene that could have been shown or maybe they even shot it, but deliberately edited it for their own reasons.😕😡 So I was/still am unhappy about it.😕
I'm unhappy about so many pallavi... like how they've NEVER shown us Jalal and Jodha sleeping together. ever...even as yatris...
Yesterday's episode was good, with Jallu being drawn to Jo's sound. Beautiful😛 The Akdha scene was too cute. In fact I feel they have become quite normal with each other now. Naughtiness, teasing, taunting (all in good vein). 😛 Precap was the best. But after reading so many comments on the forum, I am a bit confused now. If the CVs now show that Jo remembers the soul talk and Jallu doesn't, then I am going with a gun to Karjat. Hope you will accompany too😆
I swear..it better be so...😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
#52

@ Sandhya and Lavanya (You know, my college mates were both Sandhya and Lavanya)

Lashy, I had posted the same thing in the earlier post. Explaining it in more detail.

The point I am trying to drive is unless the soul talk is only Jalal's it is absurd and crosses theatrical liberties.

Looking back, Jodha was unconscious and Hakim sahiba had given up. Jalal is then shown to be talking to Jodha to open her eyes and then we get to see the soul talk. When Jodha wakes up she finds Jalal holding her hand and she inquires about Benz. Later she makes Moti tell her verbatim of what all Jalal did for her. Moreover during Jalal-Jodha conversation later on in hojra and in angoori bagh, Jodha keeps asking Jalal whether he found Benazir beautiful and also she wishes he felt she was more beautiful. If her soul is aware of the confession of Jalal then the whole conversation subsequently is rendered futile and senseless. This implies she had no inkling of what happened during her unconscious state.

True...lets wait for the whole precap to unfold and see how it plays out before we set out to analyze this one today ..I'll keep your points in mind while doing so...

I'm quite confused too... since its such a grey area all this consciousness, subconsciousness, hypnosis, near death everything

Further if Jodha is aware of Jalal's feeling for her then why the hesitation to agree that she liked his company even if she does not want to accept she too loves him in return.

That is why this sudden acknowledgement of Jodha about the soul talk action is startling and illogical. This is strictly as per what the creative team is showing us. Therefore the loss of impact from the hair aroma scene.

It would have added meaning if Jodha was sharing that Jalal took good care of her during trip and he had taken maanat for her etc, that would have really made a wonderful hair aroma scene.

true...I understand your frustrations dear...I'll try and revisit it later..if it doesn't make sense I have to write it off as another Bali ka bakra for the sake of TRPs...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lashy🤗
what a wonderful explanation...cannot agree more🤗
yes, Jalal is newly in love..he is discovering every new bit of it..we cannot expect him not to commit mistakes..he will and he will rectify them too..mistakes r great way of learning..and Jalal is learning.
on the other hand Jodha is very happy with the new type of emotions she is feeling these days..it is a treat to watch her glow and blush with the very name of Jalal.
these two r finding excuses to spend time with each other.😳
for the me the best scene of yesterday was when Jalal got pulled by Jodha's singing...he was going through an emotional turmoil with so many problems in his Saltanat..everything is washed out once her voice reaches to his soul..how beautiful it was❤️

Edited by tamy267 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: lashy

Pals2411]
Your analysis always springs positivity and dear that is what I like👍🏼
Thanks dear😳
But honestly bolu to I didn't like the kheema scene😕 Very bad editing, which left like a Fill in the Blanks for us viewers. I have watched the kheema scene so many times, I saw when Jo stood there and told that she wants to sleep outside to Jallu, there was a catch in her voice that expressed sadness. I am pretty sure, Jallu noticed that too.

On the contrary if she was ok with the arrangement, the tinge of sadness would not have been there. She would have said this plainly.
No, I didn't say she was ok with sleeping outside..my take is that Jalal didn't notice her being not ok with it because in the follow up scene his expressions didn't depict empathy...only longing...
Also, I said I think what followed (which wasn't shown really) should have been something good because Jalal and Jodha both seemed to be at a very happy place on their return to Agra!

Dear you are saying Jallu couldn't catch Jo's expressions and sadness😡 Ahhh🤢 That is all the more bad then, when he claims to understand her now😡 The more I talk about it, the more anger and sadness it instils within. Whichever way we try to justify, this kheema scene was badly edited. And I know you will agree too. Bas I don't want another similar bad chopping work today with the beautiful precap scene.😡 Waise hi the CVs chopped that handwashing and feeding scene.😡 Ohhh I am angry again😡

So I was expecting Jallu's dialogue with Ruq. But kya hua, cut Monday and he was sleeping beside Ruq.😕 There was so much more to the scene that could have been shown or maybe they even shot it, but deliberately edited it for their own reasons.😕Angry So I was/still am unhappy about it.😕
I'm unhappy about so many pallavi... like how they've NEVER shown us Jalal and Jodha sleeping together. ever...even as yatris...
Me too. This yatra could have been one of the best remembered tracks of JA. It was spoiled no doubt.🤢
Yesterday's episode was good, with Jallu being drawn to Jo's sound. Beautiful😛 The Akdha scene was too cute. In fact I feel they have become quite normal with each other now. Naughtiness, teasing, taunting (all in good vein). 😛 Precap was the best. But after reading so many comments on the forum, I am a bit confused now. If the CVs now show that Jo remembers the soul talk and Jallu doesn't, then I am going with a gun to Karjat. Hope you will accompany too😆
I swear..it better be so...Angry

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamy267

Lashy🤗

what a wonderful explanation...cannot agree more🤗
yes, Jalal is newly in love..he is discovering every new bit of it..we cannot expect him not to commit mistakes..he will and he will rectify them too..mistakes r great way of learning..and Jalal is learning.
on the other hand Jodha is very happy with the new type of emotions she is feeling these days..it is a treat to watch her glow and blush with the very name of Jalal.
these two r finding excuses to spend time with each other.😳
for the me the best scene of yesterday was when Jalal got pulled by Jodha's singing...he was going through an emotional turmoil with so many problems in his Saltanat..everything is washed out once her voice reaches to his soul..how beautiful it was❤️

My Akdhaian 🤗

Yes, he's blushing...she's blushing..he blushes more...she blushes more... bahut blushing and hand-feet game ho gayaa..
ab thoda pushing pulling bhi ho jaaye 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

My Akdhaian 🤗

Yes, he's blushing...she's blushing..he blushes more...she blushes more... bahut blushing and hand-feet game ho gayaa..
ab thoda pushing pulling bhi ho jaaye 😆

kab ?
pata nahi woh suhane din kab ayenge..but I'm loving their progress...Jodha Begum aajkal kafi haq jamati hai😉 of late, both have become very demanding😳

on a serious note, regarding the precap, I was never the one to bang my head over a nonsense bakofied by Zee operator..I'd rather wait and watch..we should never forget this is the same set of CVs who have given us post Ben track😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: realitybites



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<font color="#006666">Lashy, I had posted the same thing in the earlier post. Explaining it in more detail.</font>


<font color="#006666">The point I am trying to drive is unless the soul talk is only Jalal's it is absurd and crosses theatrical liberties. </font>


<font color="#006666">Looking back, Jodha was unconscious and Hakim sahiba had given up. Jalal is then shown to be talking to Jodha to open her eyes and then we get to see the soul talk. When Jodha wakes up she finds Jalal holding her hand and she inquires about Benz. Later she makes Moti tell her verbatim of what all Jalal did for her. Moreover during Jalal-Jodha conversation later on in hojra and in angoori bagh, Jodha keeps asking Jalal whether he found Benazir beautiful and also she wishes he felt she was more beautiful. If her soul is aware of the confession of Jalal then the whole conversation subsequently is rendered futile and senseless. This implies she had no inkling of what happened during her unconscious state. </font>


<font color="#006666">Further if Jodha is aware of Jalal's feeling for her then why the hesitation to agree that she liked his company even if she does not want to accept she too loves him in return. </font>


<font color="#006666">That is why this sudden acknowledgement of Jodha about the soul talk action is startling and illogical. This is strictly as per what the creative team is showing us. Therefore the loss of impact from the hair aroma scene. </font>


<font color="#006666" size="3" face="Calibri">It would have added meaning if Jodha was sharing that Jalal took good care of her during trip and he had taken 0208 5990794maanat for her etc, that would have really made a wonderful hair aroma scene.</font>


I agree with you, you have pointed out good points
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

My Akdhaian 🤗

Yes, he's blushing...she's blushing..he blushes more...she blushes more... bahut blushing and hand-feet game ho gayaa..
ab thoda pushing pulling bhi ho jaaye 😆

😆 Even I would want that Lashy and tamyEmbarrassed
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pals2411

couldn't catch Jo's expressions and sadness😡 Ahhh🤢 That is all the more bad then, when he claims to understand her now😡
I don't think he did... because he didn't feel sorry for her when she was sleeping there..he had a longing in his eyes.. so, he assumed she wanted it that way and didn't butt in.. (at least by going by following scenes that only makes more sense than anything else) also, as soon as he came in, she walked out and he wasn't face to face...
so with their shoddy No.1 editing this is what we have to conclude 😆
The more I talk about it, the more anger and sadness it instils within. Whichever way we try to justify, this kheema scene was badly edited. And I know you will agree too. Bas I don't want another similar bad chopping work today with the beautiful precap scene.😡 Waise hi the CVs chopped that handwashing and feeding scene.😡 Ohhh I am angry again😡

Me too. This yatra could have been one of the best remembered tracks of JA. It was spoiled no doubt.🤢

Now now my dear Pal... I wouldn't go so far as to say that it was spoiled..it was still the most beautiful run of 4 episodes till date... no Agra no Amer.. just the two of them
it gave me back my mischievous Jodha and Jalal...
Now... only missing some intimacy between the two... 😉 and that can/should happen before love confession too (which btw is confusing everyone else here I see😆)
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thank you my silent thumbs-upper 😆
Aww 🤗

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