JA-JO 17&18Feb-Realization is a slow process, acceptance a slower - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Donjas

Thank you for analyzing Jalal's point of view. You made things clearer. In the Khema scene, some are of the opinion that Jalal disregarded Jodha's safety by letting her sleep outside.

That is not true, firstly the tent was open, so no safety would have been had by sleeping in the tent. Secondly Ruqaiya had a posse of soldiers with her, these soldiers would surely have been used for security and other menial tasks like lighting fire for warmth beside Jodha's sleeping place.

The only issue was poor editing, so we could not see which should have been pretty obvious considering that Jalal is an emperor and Jodha is a queen.

True... There really wasn't much of a difference between inside and outside... The purpose of the scene was to show Jodha and jalal didn't sleep together...but that, ruqaiyya couldn't keep them apart either...
If there had been an issue as is being suspected, then there would have been consequences...it's not like Jalal hasn't committed follies...he's done many and apologized for them too...
So, if it had been a folly it would have been depicted as one...instead it was depicted as something else altogether 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Gem12

Beautiful post Lashy...but being in love doesnt mean that they are worth for that love..anyone can fall in love..but to fight with the whole world for thr love proves them grt lover..in that case jalal is yet to pass the test..he just realised his love for jodha..doesnt mean jalal is a grt lover...he has to go thru all odds n probs dear..the day he il trust jodha completely blindly n the day he stand sfor her right n fights for her self respect the day he protects her from the whole world if needeed by giving his life the day he faces all problems of jodha the day he il not allow others to insult jodha that day he il proved a gud lover n husband too..pyar to kisi ko bhi hoskata hain..par pyar ko bachana aur kamyab karna ye har kisi ki bas nahi..aakri dum tak uske liye zeena aasan nahi...yeah jo did pass in all these test with flying clours..par dumb she has not yet realised her love for him..cos she is selfless..but jalal he was cruel srewed person..so its new to him..he il learn ..

Jalal is slowly taking his baby steps..he il paas with flying colours...ye ishq nahi asan...tats all i can say...

Jalal was not cruel and screwed always...there are many tests he's passed too... when he realizes who's right and wrong he does go against the tide...like he did after the fake pregnancy clearing her name in the awaam and proving his family wrong...he does apologize publicly like after Ben track and the MC kaand...he has no ego to accept his mistake when he realizes he's done one...😳

But, for a young guy facing a large family and each playing a different tune...some discrepancies are bound to occur...since we are watching the story from Jodhas point of view..,she takes precedence over the rest of his family members...but, Jalal is having to weigh them equally while making decisions and sometimes he goes wrong...

Also, the Monday scene as I said ...he wasn't there when Ruqs taunted Jo...he doesn't know what happened...he is just happily watching her...if he knew of the taunt, why will he happily watch her? Doesn't make sense...
But yes, they will face a lot of problems and at the end of the day Jodha wants jalal by her side and he wants Jodha by his side...that's all that matters! 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kamala2012

Good post Lashy.

About precap, for us they showed it as though Jalal was talking to Jodha's spirit as it is leaving her body. But Jalal was not dead, so how can he do that? It's actually Jalal talking in real to Jodha who is almost about to die. She heard him and decided she cannot die and came back to life. The CVs didn't want to show a typical filmi scene and showed the spirit talk. But Jodha remembers what Jalal said because he was talking to the real her and she was not yet dead.

This is what I think.

True...I think CVs are just leaving the whole thing a bit ambiguous so they can twist it as per their convenience...😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lashy Kanna, You made a post!
Agree with all your points except the keema scene where I was a bit disappointed with Jalaal. Friday I feared seeing the pre-cap but kept quiet as normally the scene plays out different. But yesterday I was a bit disappointed.
To me, it is not a question of Ruqu vs.Jodha or whom he should've supported. Agree that he did not hear Ruqqu's taunt. Agree that his heart is with Jodha while mind is with Ruqqu...
The fact that Todar Mal had warned him and Jodha about dacoits looming in the area and the fact that she has barely recovered from a near death experience, I would've been more than satisfied if even once he had voiced his concern. That is all my expectation was...Not for him to change the arrangement or volunteer to go out. We know Jodha can be adamant and she said it was her choice although her face made it clear she was disappointed when she walked out.
When the scene played out it looks like he did actually without a further word accept things at face value.
My expectation from Jalaal is a tad higher than that of Jodha and our dear Sethji raised the bar on the trip until the last segment.
Not a big issue although disaapointing and like you say Jodha was happy while returning... So Jalaal does have his own way of damage control!
I was one of the few that was not so thrilled hearing Jalaal's confession when it played out. SO now if the creative team wants to slow it down am all game except why this sudden change in game plan (that's how it appears to me going by the scene cuts from last week) is intriguing.
Today Jodha evaded his question again! Man she is a stubborn (adorable) chudail. The part where he asks if Moti was gonna answer was so cute.. Romance has elevated from hands to leg..What next😉
Anycase cant wait to see how the pre-cap unfolds.. Why an unconscious person would remember a dream... Thought it was a soul talk!
Edited by prejudiced - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: realitybites

Jalal was so happy to go and talk to Jodha and the way she held his hand was pleasing😳, Jalal loved it. But when Jalal a simple ques what she liked better-his company or journey, then why could Jodha not say she liked his company?🤓 That is not confession about love? It was plain silly on part of CVs. 😡
These things are tactics to tug and pull at the confession and love...😆
I didn't like the Jodha rant to Hamida for Bakshi. I agree with Hamida +Jalal that besmirching a wife's reputation is unpardonable and could even mean death. Society was apathetic towards this.
While giving it the reasoning of husband's love made little sense, I did understand when she said that like shehenshah was alone, BB is too and that at this point, she needed to be rescued from her plight...also, somehow they need the story to move forward with shareef na...
The precap is confounding. How does Jodha know about the soul talk of Jalal?😳 Presuming that she does know somehow, then she would know that Jalal loves her. The whole talk about Benz being beautiful etc is useless then🤓. Why her insecurity and eagerness to seek praise? It was shown to be Jalal's soul talk because he asks Jodha to wake up and he can't let her go. That is why when she wakes up, he feels at ease. Only CVs know what they are out to prove.

What a mess, being created by CVs? Why are they ruining the beautiful scene? They could have shown the hair incense scene with her previous rant too.😕

Loool sometimes, Lavanya, you just need to sit back and enjoy the ride (Akdha scene and nok Jhoks) without worrying too much about the befores and afters😆

If there is a misunderstanding created between Jodha-Jalal that would demean the prophecy by Sheikh Chisti, Shaguni Begum and the soul talk. Besides both Jalal and Jodha have stated that they are understanding each other. This might pull down TRPs.
TRPs mantra is stronger than Salim chisti, shaguni and soul put together, remember that 😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prejudiced

Lashy Kanna, You made a post!

Agree with all your points except the keema scene where I was a bit disappointed with Jalaal. Friday I feared seeing the pre-cap but kept quiet as normally the scene plays out different. But yesterday I was a bit disappointed.
To me, it is not a question of Ruqu vs.Jodha or whom he should've supported. Agree that he did not hear Ruqqu's taunt. Agree that his heart is with Jodha while mind is with Ruqqu...
The fact that Todar Mal had warned him and Jodha about dacoits looming in the area and the fact that she has barely recovered from a near death experience, I would've been more than satisfied if even once he had voiced his concern. That is all my expectation was...Not for him to change the arrangement or volunteer to go out. We know Jodha can be adamant and she said it was her choice although her face made it clear she was disappointed when she walked out.
When the scene played out it looks like he did actually without a further word accept things at face value.
My expectation from Jalaal is a tad higher than that of Jodha and our dear Sethji raised the bar on the trip until the last segment.
Not a big issue although disaapointing and like you say Jodha was happy while returning... So Jalaal does have his own way of damage control!
Yes, I wished they'd have shown something like this too...but, doesn't make sense , does it...that there's no exchange or explanation on this matter...I have no issue with Jalal committing a mistake here...he's human after all...
but that doesn't seem to be what the CVs wanted to portray...hence, my automatic assumption is that security and the rest of it was all the same...bar the mattress itself...
and obviously Jodha is not a child that she would have forgotten this issue had it been a case...she's specifically praising Shehenshahs concern and care for her all through...so what do we make of that?

Loool...CVs hi jane...😆

The only reason, I made this one was because I read a few were quite disheartened by the Akdha story itself which I didn't feel was the case...
Overlooks by Jalal or Jodha at this point are not going to deter me from enjoying this love story...😳 These two are just too adorable now for that...
Awww i so miss badal and kajri though 😭
I was one of the few that was not so thrilled hearing Jalaal's confession when it played out. SO now if the creative team wants to slow it down am all game except why this sudden change in game plan (that's how it appears to me going by the scene cuts from last week) is intriguing.
Today Jodha evaded his question again! Man she is a stubborn (adorable) chudail. The part where he asks if Moti was gonna answer was so cute.. Romance has elevated from hands to leg..What next😉
That was one cute scene, wasn't it? 😳
Anycase cant wait to see how the pre-cap unfolds.. Why an unconscious person would remember a dream... Thought it was a soul talk!
I'm not sweating over it too much...the lines are too vague as it is😳Lets see how it unfolds...

Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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wow..what a great post 👏..
I've just started watching the show and im savouring each epi like a kid in a candy store.i've gained great insights from reading the post..thank you😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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awesome analysis lashy...🤗
now i could see the picture clearly...

but i wished this trip never end abruptly...i wanted them to go for long HM before going back to Agra mental asylum...

4 days of beautiful epic romance and 2 months of torture...

but this trip did strengthen their relationship...though they are in love(to hell with zee and their theory😡)...i love their new beginning in friendship...

the only disappointment was the journey started beautifully...but ended abruptly...i never wanted it to end...


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Fab Lashy! And I m hopeful about the precap as you are, as soul talk can't be single sided and it for me is comparison for one of the older episode where Jo was bad mouthing Jalal and Jalal walks in and he taunts about doing it behind his back and now she is praising him with love😳, so he might tease her for it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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lashy, great analysis as usual! i am glad that you found monday's episode not as bad after rewatching! i think it was plagued by poor editing..the scene could have been better if they would not have left too much to our imagination..what happened after jodha opened her eyes..and why jalal didn't react to jodha's sleeping outside the khema..all this was left undone! loved the gudgudi scene today, rajat was too cute! and looking forward to tomorrow's episode..the precap looks promising!

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