Jodha Akbar 155: Dawnbreak ahead, or a mrigtrishna? - Page 5

Originally posted by: sashashyam

But Mansingh has left Agra, Shweta, and so it cannot be he. At times, I want to shake Rajat for this habit of his, of speaking as if he has marbles in his mouth, like Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady! One cannot make out anything he says then. It must be a Marlon Brando-Dilip Kumar complex; those were the star mumblers!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My poor Sandhya and Lashy (and any other young ones exasperated with Jalal today),

Come to aunty and I will do a good tel maalish for you both so that you can get this frustration out of your respective zehens and get a good night's sleep!😉

Thank you, my dear Bobby, and these are very sensible comments, and I agree (surprise, surprise!) with most of them!😉 The supplementary points I wanted to add are in red.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Bobby13

Dear Shyamala Aunty,

Once again a great post. I really like the way you write. My comments are in line.

Amen to @blue!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: loveanime

This is just the repeat of Tansneem track just on a biggeer and grander scale on declaring Jalal stupidity. I know aunty you don't like it when we mix character based analysis with writers whooping but come on this is just plain ridiculous now. Are we supposed to accept a man who has shown such astuteness before would be as clueless as ever especially when the facts are staring at his face, this done just to glorify the heroine. I am not holding my breath that Jalal is even aware of anything, to dumb him down even further they want him to announce marriage to a daasi, and make him lord of all fools. When the truth comes out Jodha declared savior and Jalal idiocy and guilt compounded infinite folds to puke worthy proportions.

I am all for filmy romanticism of the story to an extent, and a spot of hero/heroine in pain to create sum lurveee but under the circumstances when neither of them are shown in positive light it just makes the whole thing a joke. This best would be for Jalal to trap Benazir with some plan in mind, Jodha interfered and got hurt in the process. This way Jalal doesn't look like a fool, writers can satisfy their appetite for heroinegiri, audience can have their dose of hero taking to heroine moments.

No, Sandhya, do not lose hope so soon. As I wrote here, the vishkanya angle would be beyond Jalal, now that Mirza has gone away just when he was needed in Agra, but he might have figured out that the KT was Abul Mali's weapon. He would not show his hand to Jodha, never.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

I still don't get how today's proceedings lay the foundation for Ben's begumfication. What is the connection between Ben's begumfication and Jalal's men's jasoosi ability? If Abul Mali was followed from the moment he entered Agra, Ben's connection to him must also be known, esp when Shariffu knows it.

This track is proceeding like the Tasneem track. Everything moves as though Jalal is in control. Finally they are going to burst the bubble, make him a dumbo and crown the heroine in the most ill-logical way that makes no sense.

Jalal's recovery in the last 4 episodes is a mirage afterall. If he is really dumbed down as ignorant of ben and announces his nikaah with her only to annoy jo, with the usual ingredients - MA providing the false alibi for Ben the previous night, Ruqs portraying the vamp, jalal dumbing down and heroine playing saviour, then we can be sure that the Tasneem track was not a mistake or an exception, but a trend and fore-runner of the logic-less crap we are going to be served track after track hereafter. The serial would then not be worth the time spent on watching or discussing it. Except Rajat, there would be nothing to it and it would be a pity to see him in such a pathetic role.

Loveanime has hedged her bets, Lashy dear, and don't you lose hope so soon. I am still inclined to hold out for a cunning Jalal who does not want to include Jodha in the loop for whatever he is planning.

Next, I could not make out what precisely Jalal said in the precap, but it was NOT Benazir. Then again, his face was so closed as Jodha is pleading with him that I would not say he was surprised by what she told him, though I too think he did not know about the vishkanya angle.I will wait and watch.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: lashy

I replied to most of your points aunty yesterday...but, waited for the episode to air to reply to this one. Are you still hopeful about this ^^^^😭

My CV-based gut feelings are that the DEK announcement is going to end in the begumification of Benazir..

Don't ask my why? 😆 I just feel so... what exactly are Jodha or Jalal planning to achieve with this DEK summoning of Benazir...😕 It not like they're going to whip her till she confesses to her crimes or anything...Jalal appointing Jasoos would have made more sense... (of which I can't see much hope - Jodha's revelation came as a surprise to him)

How I would love to be proved wrong though and that Jalal did in fact know something

I'm with loveanime on this one!

Imperator resurgent: Jalal seems to crawling back to his old self, witness the terrifying mirthless smile of old with which he tells Abul Mali that he has had his eye on him ever since Abul Mali entered Agra, and that while as for his being executed,waqt hi batayega, he would make sure the traitor experienced hell on earth while still alive.

He is also beginning to resume his siyasati self.

His asking Abul Mali about his jasoos was rhetorical. He could hardly have expected to get an honest reply!

In fact, much of the ridiculing of Jalal in the forum for his 4/6 eyes claim is due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what Jalal and Atgah Khan have been up to re: Abul Mali.

The truth is that far from being a terminally ill-informed ruler who cannot spot a treasonous plot going on right under his nose (for which, I must confess, I too had taken him severely to task) , Jalal has been having a close watch kept on Abul Mali all this while, which is why they are able to reel him in at once as soon as Jalal gives the go ahead to Atgah Khan.

Earlier, Jalal's whispering to Atgah Khan was clearly about the ongoing "keep Abul Mali under strict observation" plan of his , about which we were told only later, at the Diwan-e-Khas scene. When Jalal says to Atgah, while leaving, that it is now time, he means for pulling Abul Mali out of his hidey hole and bringing him to Agra fort as a prisoner.

Please do not fail to note that this time, Jalal extends his confabulation with Atgah Khan, instead of becoming distracted by the sight of Jodha Begum and immediately dropping affairs of state to start squabbling with her. This too was an achcha lakshan!

It is clearly time for that tel maalish, young Sandhya!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

Thank you, Minnie, my day is made with your opening comment. Often, people do not get my brand of humour and the end results are quite strange.

I agree with everything you say bar the first para. Jodha and Jalal are not in the comfortable old shoe love stage of their proforma marriage. So this interpretation would not really fit them.

I liked it when Jalal just walks away. He was looking very sombre as he was coming towards her. It is clear that post-Shivani, he does not want to linger near Jodha at all, for all that his heart pulls him that way. He is determined to keep this woman out of his system, and not be forced to go down on his knees some day soon (as per the Mirza catechism on the divine passion!). I had predicted as much two posts ago, and so I am quite pleased about that.

Jodha was very good in that scene, her face and voice were in sync with its mood. I did not feel that she mentioned her maasa to rile Jalal. She was just being matter of fact.

She had been standoffish and downright offputting when she thought that he was hankering after her because of SKLL, Now he barely pauses to talk to her, and shows clearly that he does not want anything to do with her. So what does she do? She goes all gooey-eyed and smiles secretly to herself when the new, flat-voiced Moti affirms that the Mahashivaratri vrat brings husband and wife together in a strong bond, and later prays in the Shivmandir for their sambandh to be lasting as that of Shiva-Parvati. Who can fathom the heart of a woman? At times, not even another woman!

You must have been quite the campus queen! As for Jalal's crush on Jodha, I do hope it lasts a bit longer than a week!😉

Shyamala

Originally posted by: minnie2308

Had good light-hearted fun while reading you today...

As for Jalal's jibes on jodha and her vrats, I did not even find them very cutting... my hubby might say 'forget it lady, you just want to gorge on delicious, starchy sabudana khichdi and other vrat delicacy... " it seemed to me sort of long married husband - wife spat. And if riling up a husband is my mantra of the moment, what better way to do it than saying I'm doing it coz 'MY' (not your 😆😉) mom asked me too.!

If Jodha as per Jodha's characterisation was A Jodha, miss Nobody in mughal sultanate but a loyalist, she would still want to forewarn her shehenshah of the dangers on his life if she were privy to some insider info, that she thought shehenshah will not know! So no 'Love, S** and Dhoka yet!...

And we can all KISS Benazir goodbye from the screen before the end of this week... she is out to kiss shehenshah under the very nose of Begum-e-khas...

Btw, what was rukkaiya's boring cursing of Jo begum in a screeching voice. Jalal must really be tired to be able to sleep amidst such noisy women...🤔

Jalal has a massive crush on begum Jo... I am remembering my good ol college days... a new crush every week

Originally posted by: sashashyam

You must have been quite the campus queen! As for Jalal's crush on Jodha, I do hope it lasts a bit longer than a week!😉

Shyamala

Yes, Marlon Brando put things in his mouth to get Vito Corleone right. It is a famous anecdote, but I do not think it was marbles. I think he padded his cheeks with something. As I remember, Eliza swallows one of those marbles, and when she mentions it, Professor Henry Higgins simply pops in another one!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: jshweta16

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🤣 Aunty you had me in stitches! seems like poor Rajat is still not recovered from flu/cold, and its quite cold in Karjat compared to mum/pune. Bdw did Marlon Brando really used to talk like vito corleone ? 😆 I have not watched his any other movie.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

But Mansingh has left Agra, Shweta, and so it cannot be he. At times, I want to shake Rajat for this habit of his, of speaking as if he has marbles in his mouth, like Eliza Doolittle in My Fair Lady! One cannot make out anything he says then. It must be a Marlon Brando-Dilip Kumar complex; those were the star mumblers!

Shyamala Aunty

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