Jodha- Practice what you preach - Page 2

Originally posted by: sonilausarun

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for me jalal character have lots of discrepancy then jodha truly speaking not only our leads bur maham , rukku, characters are been treating same way thanks to our mahan CVs 👎🏼
1. jodha attitude about Mughals are inferior & Rajvanshis are superior is a gone case now ...she thaught that before marrige & even after marrige had that believe but now after spending time in agra among mughals she knows the truth jodha respect HB as mother saleema begum as sister & called her self Shensha ki Begum in some occassions & when hakeem shows liking toward her sister she put the talk infront of elders without hasitating hakeem is mughal .

2. 2nd matter jodha jalal marrige is also discussed many times i will say risking your life & self respect to save your loved ones & living among enemies is not a clever plan its a sacrifice
so it was not a clever plan by jodha she was compelled for this marrige to save her country,brothers & soldiers even self killing option was available for her but this will also cause the destruction for her family & counutry so couldn't do this either
regarding husband wife rights till jalal treated her as wining trophy she showed grina but when jalal start giving her valuse as begum khass she start softing towards jalal too
regarding the lust & entire hareem knowing about jodha jalala relationship thanks to cvs for some bad executed tracks... jodha pregnanacy track & jodha pushing jalal & he landing on floor i have no objection with these tracks but atleast they can show them in acceptable manner they should maintain the dignity & grace of the characters
in the end i want to say i am dissapointed by the Cvs & CVs should rewatch Jodha Akbar from start they need a memory booster so they should realize they made the characters graph from high to low 😭

Originally posted by: pallavi003

arey guys things are not changing, Jodha is still stuck to where she was, she was respectful to hb, salima, and many more since the moment she arrived agra, but their is no progression in JJ relationship..now Jalal's patience is on the verge of breaking..

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Guess you love Jalal and do not like Jodha!

I love both that's why i started watching serial but highly disappointed in their characterisation. I think Maham is show hero and all others side hero's.

Jodha does not think Mugals are inferior or superior - she hated them for fighting a war against her own coutry, which she loves. Surely she is ALLOWED to do that! Which person of any religion would respect who invade your country? They kill her fiance, hold her brothers hostage, ravage the temple sanctity and remove ornaments from the deity! Surely Jodha SHOULD BE ALLOWED to not like this! Any sane person would hate

Yes she can hate the invaders and Jalal the emperor. All mughals are not bad. Some saved her from getting intoi the lusting hands of Sharifuddin too like chatagi khan. But i find her lectures on Rajvanshi's too much. She must know as a mature adult the faults of her family and fight agianst them like sati, discrimination against girl child,killing girl child in womb, widows etc

After marriage when Jodha comes to Agra and gets to know HB, Saleema etc. and learns about their customs she herself suggests marriage of Shivani and Mirza Hakim
BTW Jodha only thinks of this AFTER Mirza Hakim tells her that he lives Shivani a lot

I actually think this is stupid - cos of the humiliations and hatred she has faced but I guess Jodha does not think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jodha of course did NOT WANT to marry Jalal, she was FORCED BY CIRCUMSTANCES to do so. Her father fixed the marriage without her knowledge to free his sons and save his Amer. She is basically emotionally blackmailed into it. If Jodha had refused to marry Jalal on wedding day then surely Mugals would have invaded Amer and all that. So she hardly did it out of choice!

That is her father's fault not Jalal's. I or any other decent human would have preferred death than give away his daughter to save his son to another man who was known as cruel and of another religion against my daughters wish. I guess Bharamal has no such ideals. Or may be ideals were different in 21st century and 15th

After marriage Jalal tells Jodha he married her to take revenge on her, he does not want her so HE GIVES HER WORD that he will not touch her

No. He said i am your husband can do anything to you. But when she was acting as if he was trying to maan bhang her he felt repulsed and said i do not want to increase your honour by sleeping with you. He said that just to please his hurt ego. No husband can take it when wife reject him so he act as if he reject her that's it just too pacify his ego he said that. He never said i will never touch you without your permission ever. So if he change mind he can come to her. Whether 21st or 16th century its same.


Agree with you Shivani marriage track is silly but maybe the CVs here feel they now need to turn Jodha into an idiot. Maybe the Jodha going to Amer track is to follow
Jodha should not have fixed marriage without clarifying points regarding religious freedom, marriage ceremony etc.

Jodha WAS NOT IN LOVE with Suryabhan, she goes to him before marriage with request to marry Shivani cos she liked him, he refuses. Jodha has huge respect for Suryabhan for being the kind of man she wanted to marry, proud of his religion and country, ready to fight Mugals for it, brave and kind. She thinks she is going to marry him so naturally she goes along with behavior normal for that

Jodha said she loved Suraybhan to Salima once(Bakshi episode)

Wow Jalal true character - these days they are even making Jalal look weak and puppet in hands of MahamA, not even aware of what is happening in his Agra, like someody commented on a post while back
Jalal wants to rule the country but he does not even rule his own Haram! MahamA does

buddy jodha hates mughals she mean here jalal not all bcz his father is frn of chutkai khan...
this khan suggested this proposal neither her father nor jalal as he knows abt sharifuddin. death is not the only solution for it if it is so they wud have done it..his father told that he cant giv her daughter to mughals and the whole family is ready to die than to do it...jalal at that time was cruel who knows may be he would have said war on them and by winning he would have killed amerians or makin them convert to islam or askin them to pay high taxes he can do anything..so her father was ready to give daughter for whole amerians sake as peaceful treaty...he was not merely political at that time he wants to take revenge on her so he accepted and also by making this rishta he gets doubledhamaka of jodha and winning amerians hearts...he said dat he doesnt want to increase her honour by sleeping with her and she is just tofa..any girl who hated one person so much even if he is husband its difficult to accept.and cannot give herself completely..it needs time..so at that time if he force her she wil think as maan bhang only and dat too he attacked her at that night as if she is prey.this is cvs fault buddy first day he said lik this but in rejection episode night in dream he told that he will not touch her without her permission..jo was not in love with suryabhan ..wen his proposal came for her she told abt sukanya likes him but he rejects her..and this proposal was brought by parents so everyone knows abt them gettin married but shivani is different no one wud expect her to be in love with someone and that too in royal families as it dint happen in their family previously...in serial they showd shivani but in real also mug rajput marraige happend ,salim got married to bhagwandas daughter manbhawati she was his first wife...so v must take grant that mughals too respect rajputs culture allowing them to follow their religion as per their wish...

Originally posted by: myviewprem

i am against the character jodha how its potrayed not real jodha?

As an elder sister its jodha duty to fight for your younger sister's happiness even if your parents and brothers do not because they feel answerable to society. Jodha must support shiavni to marry her lover tej not oppose because real love does not happen on caste, religion, status.

i have observed that even today when one girl raises voice against injustice in house/workplace/public place other women(even family) do not support. Actually some men support but not majority women. And Jodha my role model behaving like this after Sep episodes make me angry. Jodha should be potrayed like role model to 15th century women not confirming to traditions to please parents, brothers. Then what difference between common women who have no power and a powerful empress when you cannot do justice to a younger sister who is like a daughter? Do not preach stop preaching to husband and others in agra fort who will anyway listen to you because you are family they love you and do not want to offend you by saying No.

Hi All,
I am quite discreet in the forum nowadays but , the words Religion, Caste etc ...caught my attention.!! These are very strong words u see..!!😊
Folks, Remember...Since we have not yet seen why Jodha will oppose the Tej-Shivani match...so NO point in saying she is doing so with respect to Caste,Religion etc. ( I think these are way too harsh words for her as if she had been so...she would have been cared for Moti, HB gang Hakim etc...)😳
I am sure Jodha will oppose(if at all) the match not for Caste, status issue but for the way which they are adopting...that is Eloping... which indeed is a disgrace to everyone given the situation...Irrespective of Religion , caste or Status...!!😕

I agree that this act was rather Stupid of Jodha as she should have checked with Shivani herself first...but she cannot be termed as partial for that...!! She merely was trying to make things easier for Her father Bharmal who already had a hugely tough time marrying Sukanya off...(We all know what happened ..right?) 😳
And another point to be noted is that Jodha can have a valid point to go against her sister's choice as Shivani committed the grave mistake/sin of lying in court as well as in private chamber when she could have shared her thought with Jodha ..saving everyone from the disgrace. Shivani did none of the sort and took the easy way of eloping and lying as MA showed her. This indeed is potent enough to turn Jodha against her own kid sister...!!
Hence it's better to wait and watch rather than launch into fights and criticisms right now even before anything happened ...😃

Regards,
Kamal

As quoted by kdr81

Hi All,
I am quite discreet in the forum nowadays but , the words Religion, Caste etc ...caught my attention.!! These are very strong words u see..!!😊
Folks, Remember...Since we have not yet seen why Jodha will oppose the Tej-Shivani match...so NO point in saying she is doing so with respect to Caste,Religion etc. ( I think these are way too harsh words for her as if she had been so...she would have been cared for Moti, HB gang Hakim etc...)😳
I am sure Jodha will oppose(if at all) the match not for Caste, status issue but for the way which they are adopting...that is Eloping... which indeed is a disgrace to everyone given the situation...Irrespective of Religion , caste or Status...!!😕

I agree that this act was rather Stupid of Jodha as she should have checked with Shivani herself first...but she cannot be termed as partial for that...!! She merely was trying to make things easier for Her father Bharmal who already had a hugely tough time marrying Sukanya off...(We all know what happened ..right?) 😳
And another point to be noted is that Jodha can have a valid point to go against her sister's choice as Shivani committed the grave mistake/sin of lying in court as well as in private chamber when she could have shared her thought with Jodha ..saving everyone from the disgrace. Shivani did none of the sort and took the easy way of eloping and lying as MA showed her. This indeed is potent enough to turn Jodha against her own kid sister...!!
Hence it's better to wait and watch rather than launch into fights and criticisms right now even before anything happened ...😃

Regards,
Kamal


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Completely agree with kdr81 👏

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Jodha WAS NOT IN LOVE with Suryabhan, she goes to him before marriage with request to marry Shivani cos she liked him, he refuses. Jodha has huge respect for Suryabhan for being the kind of man she wanted to marry, proud of his religion and country, ready to fight Mugals for it, brave and kind. She thinks she is going to marry him so naturally she goes along with behavior normal for that

Jodha said she loved Suraybhan to Salima once(Bakshi episode)

Jodha had said that she LIKED Suryabhan.. but did not love him...

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