JA Dec 13th - MA 1st attack on Jodha, this one is PYAAR wala

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jalal yet again gets fooled by MA. The Jalal I have come to know is very practical and logical. He is very perceptive about other peoples feelings and emotions. If anyone other than MA read that letter, he would have doubted it. Or, he would have not believed if someone else informed that Jodha loves him and wants to spend the night with him. The Jodha he has come to know has created HAZAAR hungamas over 'ratri vyatit'. Jodha just recently informed him about not hating him anymore. Then, how could she so quickly declare that she loves him. If it was not MA, I feel his logical head would have realized that there is something fishy about this. In 16th century I wonder if any girl ever wrote a love letter, even if it was her husband. Jalal does not doubt MA one bit so far, during the Tasneem issue he might have realized that her political abilities are not upto the mark. But, other than that she has not yet failed him. Just like SD had not failed Jalal in the past and hence Jalal believed SD that he had never promised the fort. Jodha was the reason SD got exposed, she will have to do the same honors for MA. Jalal was not one bit surprised at Jodha's love proposal after MA finished reading the letter. He did not even show extreme joy, infact almost no reaction at all. That's what makes me believe that he is not convinced from inside about this love declaration. He is only surprised that MA was happy, and the naagin quickly covers it up as happiness for her other son. The sad part is that MA has the letter, so there is no going back to prove that Jodha did not write all of what MA read.


The scene where Jodha is smiling while reading the letter was so beautiful. Its so good to see these happy emotions on Jodha's face, they were so rare in the past. She is right about that, one should not delay in saying certain things and written things are remembered for a longer time. The scene between JaJo in garden was equally good. Jalal's understanding of music was so well described by him, just like a warrior. It was good to see Jodha appreciating Jalal, she is noticing more qualities about him and is very surprised that he would be interested in music. Seriously Jodha? How many times has he requested you to sing and even praised your singing? I was not very happy with Jodha's explanation of music, the words are good. But, somehow the CVs have already shown too many good things about her and Jalal praising them. I am kind of at a stage, where all these loudly thrown at us qualities of Jodha fail to impress me. I did like her comment about 'Mahan log TEDE hote hai' and more than like the fact that Jalal was also Mahan in her eyes. Jodha talks about how she is eagerly waiting for the night, she is only thinking about Tansen. Poor Jalal is feeling the pressure and excitement about the upcoming night also. Yet another clue, would any female in those times openly talk about waiting for THE night. Jalal misses it again, may be because he feels 'aaurto ko samajhana mushkil hai'.


MA found out about SD's dislike for Jodha yesterday. I feel MA might use this in future to her advantage. The other reason for SD coming back to Agra might be, as everyone else is predicting a more possessive Jalal. As the geedad SD will try to elope with Jodha or make some other indecent move at Jodha that will make Jalal get really mad. It is a very scary scenario for Jodha - two villains in prison, one white naagin roaming freely and a green Ruqu going 'kabhi cold to kabhi hot'! We audience will be on this roller coaster ride just so that we can see the ultimate epic love story, that has shown no signs of starting yet.


I have no idea how Tansen was, hope the one that is shown matched the one that gained so much fame. Its true though that artists are weird and TEDA like Jodha mentioned. I was surprised though at the way Tansen asks the other singer to stop the 'bin mausam barsaat' song. Generally, wouldn't artist be humble also? Its quite likely that he is from Jodha's background as he seems to possess the same self respect as her. Jodha liked the compliment that Tansen gave to Jalal - 'You understand people really well'. Only, this will not impress Jodha when Jalal makes the moves that contradict this compliment.


Precap: I never saw I would see this in a historic story. A mother encouraging his son for the SR, pushing him to have the time of his life. One senseless track after the other. Jalal looks drunk for sure and obviously MA got him in this state.


Next week, my thoughts: Is Jodha going to trust Jalal after his attempt to spend the night with her. She has found out after lot of suffering that Jalal kept his word and her honor intact. If CVs think logically like me, I would think that she would not doubt Jalal. She might just think that he is drunk and is getting carried away. Hopefully, nothing much will happen. The thing though is that Jalal will continue to make these romantic moves at Jodha till the whole thing comes out in open. When Jodha denies writing anything about spending the night, would Jalal trust her? MA has played a very dangerous game, its not only dangerous for JaJo's trust but also for her own self. I somehow feel Moti will tell Jodha that MA must have read the letter and manipulated it. The chanakya Jodha might tell Shenshah that MA must have misunderstood the language as she does not know it well.

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ngayou thumbnail
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Posted: 11 years ago
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👍🏼 , Meghna. Sincerely, let me tell u, dunno why this track has been introduced, so am not at all gonna predict anything, & logic, u still expect logic from these CVs 😲 .

And Jo might be hunar ki kaan, but I didnt like that scene where again she goes into bashan mode about what music is. She sounded so condescending to me , & what it makes Jallu look like , dont even ask me 😕.

Am almost disinterested in this track & what damage or progress this might bring about in this story .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i agree with you whole heartedly, i hope jodha doesn't react like a fool and i hope that she doesnt allow this to interfere with the relationship she is building with jalal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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meghana nothing will happen...and Jodha is not going to hurt him...Is he drunk? May be he will pass out...
Wonderful analysis...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi all.
I knw this weekend is going to be the pits. And by the look of it perhaps even Monday will leave us with butterflies in our tummies on this love letter - rejection track.

But 3 points that need to be noted -

1. TE ka soul talk - that Tansen brought a new direction to thier love.

2. Jodha telling Moti - Tansen's music can impact the environment with the implied effect of the ragini.

3. Pls note - When Tansen came he stopped in the garden hearing the call of the peacock - the call to its mate - and Tansen composed a ragini rt there with the peacock calling out and dancing the mating dance - the idea being that this ragini is the musical equivalent of the lover's call to the beloved - So lets see how Tansen's new ragini affects both TE and Jodha. Tansen is supposed to have a new raag in the lives of TE and Jodha as per the soul talk!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: adianasr

Hi all.

I knw this weekend is going to be the pits. And by the look of it perhaps even Monday will leave us with butterflies in our tummies on this love letter - rejection track.

But 3 points that need to be noted -

1. TE ka soul talk - that Tansen brought a new direction to thier love.

2. Jodha telling Moti - Tansen's music can impact the environment with the implied effect of the ragini.

3. Pls note - When Tansen came he stopped in the garden hearing the call of the peacock - the call to its mate - and Tansen composed a ragini rt there with the peacock calling out and dancing the mating dance - the idea being that this ragini is the musical equivalent of the lover's call to the beloved - So lets see how Tansen's new ragini affects both TE and Jodha. Tansen is supposed to have a new raag in the lives of TE and Jodha as per the soul talk!!!

👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ngayou

👍🏼 , Meghna. Sincerely, let me tell u, dunno why this track has been introduced, so am not at all gonna predict anything, & logic, u still expect logic from these CVs 😲 .

And Jo might be hunar ki kaan, but I didnt like that scene where again she goes into bashan mode about what music is. She sounded so condescending to me , & what it makes Jallu look like , dont even ask me 😕.

Am almost disinterested in this track & what damage or progress this might bring about in this story .

Thanks Gayatri. That's why I put the disclaimer in my prediction, that its only for logically thinking people.😉
I am glad to hear that you feel the same way about Jo's music description. Her dialog are so sweet at times, but still hurt my ears. Jalal alreadys know about her hazaar hunars, yet CVs keep throwing more. I dont even like Jalal's dialog of yeh hunar bhi kaamal hai anymore.

Don't be completely disheartened though..Like Anu said may be we will get to see the flirty/naughty Jalal driving Jodha crazy and making her lose all her inhibitions. We have our bags packed anyways, lets enjoy the show till they take it down completely. I feel that MA's pyaar wala attack will only get more pyaar in JaJo life, remember my disclaimer.😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: chiona

i agree with you whole heartedly, i hope jodha doesn't react like a fool and i hope that she doesnt allow this to interfere with the relationship she is building with jalal.

Thanks buddy. I doubt that Jo will go back to the GHRINA mode. I got a reason why this track was introduced and its a khush faimi may be - this track might be for Jodha to forget about her ratri vyatit issues and be comfortable with Jalal spending night with her. Check my disclaimer about 'for logically thinking' people only
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

meghana nothing will happen...and Jodha is not going to hurt him...Is he drunk? May be he will pass out...

Wonderful analysis...

Thanks Ela. You are unusually calm, something is wrong. You are not mad that Ja might hurt your Jo? Or do you want him to?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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One more point -
More important was his convo before the letter arrives - that an Emperor is always surrounded by ppl who want to harm him. What is reqd is to cleverly find them and punish them.

- So my point is this track a means to catch MA? If so will TE be successful or will he once again be only left with circumstantial evidence and no solid proof. - TE is not taking strong action against MA despite his suspicions becoz MA has the potential to whip up public frenzy by playing the 'milk debt - ingratitude' card. TE will only take action when he has proof that totally and completely incriminates her.

As for Tansen - Music is the language that the lover spks to the beloved - In fact Tansen may become the love messenger aka 'Meghdoot' for TE and Jodha Madam!!!

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