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Posted: 11 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Ariel


They needed a light track for a little while. It could have just been about music. The letter could have waited.

So true..It was so fun to watch the light moments (lunch date, night out) after the body heat track. Hope its not another drama filled week...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanhaviSRK

they have shown maham like that evil saas pushing his son for sr for grandchild , that evil woman😡

didn't like that😡

Yep, its unbelievable track for sure. MA's plan will backfire most likely, unless CVs want to show more drama.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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A very well thought out and balanced post,Meghana. I particularly liked the perceptiveness in the parts @blue.My own comments are in red.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: meghanajain

Jalal yet again gets fooled by MA. The Jalal I have come to know is very practical and logical. He is very perceptive about other peoples feelings and emotions. If anyone other than MA read that letter, he would have doubted it. Or, he would have not believed if someone else informed that Jodha loves him and wants to spend the night with him. The Jodha he has come to know has created HAZAAR hungamas over 'ratri vyatit'. Jodha just recently informed him about not hating him anymore. Then, how could she so quickly declare that she loves him. If it was not MA, I feel his logical head would have realized that there is something fishy about this. In 16th century I wonder if any girl ever wrote a love letter, even if it was her husband. No, they did not, and in any case, very few of them would be able to read and write. Question: How does Mahaam read the Devanagari script. Ruqaiya can; she read that poem for Jalal,but not Mahaam, and that was stressed during the Lakhi track.

Jalal does not doubt MA one bit so far, during the Tasneem issue he might have realized that her political abilities are not upto the mark. But, other than that she has not yet failed him. Just like SD had not failed Jalal in the past and hence Jalal believed SD that he had never promised the fort. Jodha was the reason SD got exposed, she will have to do the same honors for MA. Jalal was not one bit surprised at Jodha's love proposal after MA finished reading the letter. He did not even show extreme joy, infact almost no reaction at all. That's what makes me believe that he is not convinced from inside about this love declaration. I too noticed this particularly. He seemed impassive, but probably that was because of the suddenness of the supposed declaration from Jodha. Whatever the reason, I was happy that he did not gush like a lovesick schoolboy!

He is only surprised that MA was happy, and the naagin quickly covers it up as happiness for her other son. The sad part is that MA has the letter, so there is no going back to prove that Jodha did not write all of what MA read.This is a very pertinent point. I was watching carefully to see if Jalal took the letter back, as I had expected him to do; surely he would have taken it with him to the meeting with Jodha that night? But still, when the cat is out of the bag that night, how on earth will Mahaam explain it away? Saying that Jodha is now denying what she had written will not wash; Jalal will never believe it of Jodha now.

The scene where Jodha is smiling while reading the letter was so beautiful. Its so good to see these happy emotions on Jodha's face, they were so rare in the past. She is right about that, one should not delay in saying certain things and written things are remembered for a longer time. The scene between JaJo in garden was equally good. Jalal's understanding of music was so well described by him, just like a warrior. It was good to see Jodha appreciating Jalal, she is noticing more qualities about him and is very surprised that he would be interested in music. Seriously Jodha? How many times has he requested you to sing and even praised your singing? I was not very happy with Jodha's explanation of music, the words are good. But, somehow the CVs have already shown too many good things about her and Jalal praising them. I am kind of at a stage, where all these loudly thrown at us qualities of Jodha fail to impress me. You are being very gentle with the CVs! The endless, self-conscious bhashan about music was enough to put off even a committed music lover. Poor Paridhi, having to parrot all those lines and then regurgitate them!

I did like her comment about 'Mahan log TEDE hote hai' and more than like the fact that Jalal was also Mahan in her eyes. Jodha talks about how she is eagerly waiting for the night, she is only thinking about Tansen. Poor Jalal is feeling the pressure and excitement about the upcoming night also. Yet another clue, would any female in those times openly talk about waiting for THE night. Jalal misses it again, may be because he feels 'aaurto ko samajhana mushkil hai'.

MA found out about SD's dislike for Jodha yesterday. I feel MA might use this in future to her advantage. The other reason for SD coming back to Agra might be, as everyone else is predicting a more possessive Jalal. As the geedad SD will try to elope with Jodha or make some other indecent move at Jodha that will make Jalal get really mad. He will first have to get out of the kaalkotri, and somehow I do not thinl this scenario is going to happen, but let us see. It is a very scary scenario for Jodha - two villains in prison, one white naagin roaming freely and a green Ruqu going 'kabhi cold to kabhi hot'! We audience will be on this roller coaster ride just so that we can see the ultimate epic love story, that has shown no signs of starting yet.

I have no idea how Tansen was, hope the one that is shown matched the one that gained so much fame. Its true though that artists are weird and TEDA like Jodha mentioned. I was surprised though at the way Tansen asks the other singer to stop the 'bin mausam barsaat' song. Generally, wouldn't artist be humble also? I think he looks the part. Yes, he is abrupt and almost rude, but he is eccentric to the limit. Its quite likely that he is from Jodha's background as he seems to possess the same self respect as her. Jodha liked the compliment that Tansen gave to Jalal - 'You understand people really well'. Only, this will not impress Jodha when Jalal makes the moves that contradict this compliment.

Precap: I never saw I would see this in a historic story. A mother encouraging his son for the SR, pushing him to have the time of his life. One senseless track after the other. Jalal looks drunk for sure and obviously MA got him in this state.I agree, It was most unbecoming.It was

Next week, my thoughts: Is Jodha going to trust Jalal after his attempt to spend the night with her. She has found out after lot of suffering that Jalal kept his word and her honor intact. If CVs think logically like me, I would think that she would not doubt Jalal. She might just think that he is drunk and is getting carried away. Hopefully, nothing much will happen. The thing though is that Jalal will continue to make these romantic moves at Jodha till the whole thing comes out in open. When Jodha denies writing anything about spending the night, would Jalal trust her? MA has played a very dangerous game, its not only dangerous for JaJo's trust but also for her own self. I somehow feel Moti will tell Jodha that MA must have read the letter and manipulated it. The chanakya Jodha might tell Shenshah that MA must have misunderstood the language as she does not know it well.That would take some doing, seeing the elaborate sentences that Mahaam "reads out"!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

A very well thought out and balanced post,Meghana. I particularly liked the perceptiveness in the parts @blue.My own comments are in red.

Shyamala


Thanks Shyamala. For me the key to understanding this whole new track is in understanding the intention behind it, what purpose is it going to solve? If the track is not for gaining TRPs, then my logical head would tell it is for JaJo to take the next step of getting closer. The awkwardness in closeness will not go away till they are pushed to stay close. After 1000 ratri vyatit bhashn, Ja would not dare to bring it up easily and neither would Jo. Earlier, when there was an episode about Hamida testing Jodha. I thought she would ask Jo to spend the night with Jalal or something like that. But, destiny chose MA to do that honor of getting the oddness out of the odd couple. Hopefully Jo figures it out with Moti's help that it was MA's plotting and is ready to tackle her next attack. I do hope and pray that she uses her chanakya style till MA is completely exposed.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am kind of scared to see what will happen about the "night". I just don't want them to go bacl to ghrina and guroor breaking mode. I was looking at Jalal's expressions when MA was reading the letter and thought he will be happy but he kind of has straight face and i was like is he doubting the words then it's good and he questions MA but she covers it up. Grrr, I was hoping Jalal kept the letter. Why, why did he have to make MA read it even if it was there? he could have made salima read it.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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it was a hilarious episode...🤣
sangeet shahenshah have met hindustan shahenshah...can't wait to see their friendship bloom...

well this epi will air in my country on monday...but i watch online..as i couldn't wait......actually normally...my country airs it 1 day delay from the actual episode of india...

anyways coming to the topic...

EK did a perfect timing to introduce tansen...music always bonds deeply when it comes to love...and here music is going to play a huge cupid in Akdha love story...its going to backfire MA plans big time...she made a real mistake to invite tansen...the man is not what he seems...he has a very shrewd and sharp mind and he only spreads positive vibes...exact opp of MA...cheapu and adham...and it looks like he has already smell evil air in agra...in harem itself...it looks like jallu likes him...you can see the smile on his face when tansen left...jallu always like people who doesn't like him...as he feel they are honest and true to their feelings...and he respect that so much...currently tansen is not liking agra as well as shahenshah...🤣...its going to be awesome to see his jugal bandi with MA...

its always a say that when you can't express yourself in words...music express your heart...soul and words...it helps to reveal one feelings...thats why even now when we propose to someone when they is no words...we sing...my cousin did that by singing Khuda Jaane from Bachna Ae Hasseno and propose his fiance and they are getting married next year...it was hilarious...but touching too...in here definitely music is going to bond two souls even closer...music binds two hearts into one soul

like you say Akdha minds have meet...its time for Akdha hearts to meet...and lastly Akdha body will meet...its a journey of Akdha love saga...

ok tansen real name is Ramtanu Pandey...(sweet name😃)...i guess we all have to call him tansen as he is known in history...one of Akbar's navratna has made an entry...waiting for the next navratna birbal to make an entry...its going to be a treat to eyes to watch tansen-jallu blooming friendship through music...we are going to have a musical friendship...

ok coming to those two loosers in jail...are they sentenced for punishment...or they are in a beach having the fun of times...oh god they have been doing sins and look how there is no regret in their faces...jallu made a big mistake by sentencing both the loosers in the same cell...this time round the way they are going to plot against Akdha is going to be very dangerous...their plans are dangerous and its looks like we are going to have threesome joining hands in evil to destroy Akdha...its high time jallu behead all 3...they are a pain to our eyes...i hope jallu gets to know cheapu lustful intention for jodha...but it looks like MA will get to know this disgusting intention of cheapu and will support him in his mission...more disaster ahead...before all 3 dead...and its not going to be anytime soon...poor two loosers can't listen to tansen music...i am sure even they have heard abt the great voice of Ramtanu Pandey...

Akdha Moments

when MA read that jodha loves jallu...the expressions of jallu was worth-watching...he was blushing...he couldn't control his feelings but had to becos his badi ammi is infront of him...though i felt like slapping MA for playing with jallu emotions...but then when i saw his expressions...his blush...calms me down...in his eyes showed how much he is in relief that jodha loves him...the happiness was evident in his eyes...this means...he always waited for her to accept with whole heart...and after the written confession by jodha though fake by MA...he felt his wait is over...i felt bad for him becos the things running into his mind is totally opposite and he is in for a rude shock...

like both of us accept music is going to bind two hearts into one soul...and Akdha garden scenes was just the answer for us...the whole topic was abt music...and jodha was impressed that jallu is also fond of music...he loves music of the sword...his horse...when he kills enemies...they are all his source of music...his source of understanding music...and jodha's understand of music is nature...moonlight...chirping of birds...both are poles apart in nature but still attracts like magnets ...music is going to bring Akdha closer and its all due to tansen...he is a cupid...

at the end...i was totally laughing...🤣...jodha is talking abt tansen concert in double meaning and jallu is blushing thinking abt their C-night...😆...i don't blame currently he is intoxicated by love alcohol...🤣

Precap: it was too cute...jallu was blushing...but then he is deadly drunk😆...even more drunk than his first wedding night with jodha when he express his hate for her...😆...he has party hard all night with tansen raag...i hope we see tansen magic in the concert itself that might spread on Akdha...i guess thats the reason jallu is drunk...jodha's memories is enough to get any man drunk😉...or the other way is MA might spike his drink...😡

i don't know what is going to happen di...but i hope jallu express his feelings for jodha in his drunken state...when a person is vulnerable and weak...he intend to speak his heart and soul out...currently jallu is in that state...he has been hiding his feelings for jodha alot...its high time it comes out in open...

oh lord i hope the ghrina word doesn't make its appearance...i want it to lay dead in burial grounds itself

the other aspect i want to add...tansen music is not only going to bind two souls...but also his music is going to play in tackling political issues...

thank god tansen came as a breeze of air...otherwise we would have been suffocated by MA...cheapu and adham plotting and planning...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: ashpat

I am kind of scared to see what will happen about the "night". I just don't want them to go bacl to ghrina and guroor breaking mode. I was looking at Jalal's expressions when MA was reading the letter and thought he will be happy but he kind of has straight face and i was like is he doubting the words then it's good and he questions MA but she covers it up. Grrr, I was hoping Jalal kept the letter. Why, why did he have to make MA read it even if it was there? he could have made salima read it.


That is the thing, Jalal asked MA to read it because he knew it was not a romantic letter. The thing though is that it turned out to be romantic. If it was not MA, Jalal would have thought something is fishy..Anyway, if CVs are not after TRPs only then the trust that JaJo have built will only get stronger. They will infact get to spend more time with each other, and the awkwardness of being close might go away also...MA has done what none of the animal kingdom could do me thinks.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mages

it was a hilarious episode...🤣
sangeet shahenshah have met hindustan shahenshah...can't wait to see their friendship bloom...

well this epi will air in my country on monday...but i watch online..as i couldn't wait......actually normally...my country airs it 1 day delay from the actual episode of india...

anyways coming to the topic...

EK did a perfect timing to introduce tansen...music always bonds deeply when it comes to love...and here music is going to play a huge cupid in Akdha love story...its going to backfire MA plans big time...she made a real mistake to invite tansen...the man is not what he seems...he has a very shrewd and sharp mind and he only spreads positive vibes...exact opp of MA...cheapu and adham...and it looks like he has already smell evil air in agra...in harem itself...it looks like jallu likes him...you can see the smile on his face when tansen left...jallu always like people who doesn't like him...as he feel they are honest and true to their feelings...and he respect that so much...currently tansen is not liking agra as well as shahenshah...🤣...its going to be awesome to see his jugal bandi with MA...

its always a say that when you can't express yourself in words...music express your heart...soul and words...it helps to reveal one feelings...thats why even now when we propose to someone when they is no words...we sing...my cousin did that by singing Khuda Jaane from Bachna Ae Hasseno and propose his fiance and they are getting married next year...it was hilarious...but touching too...in here definitely music is going to bond two souls even closer...music binds two hearts into one soul

like you say Akdha minds have meet...its time for Akdha hearts to meet...and lastly Akdha body will meet...its a journey of Akdha love saga...

ok tansen real name is Ramtanu Pandey...(sweet name😃)...i guess we all have to call him tansen as he is known in history...one of Akbar's navratna has made an entry...waiting for the next navratna birbal to make an entry...its going to be a treat to eyes to watch tansen-jallu blooming friendship through music...we are going to have a musical friendship...

ok coming to those two loosers in jail...are they sentenced for punishment...or they are in a beach having the fun of times...oh god they have been doing sins and look how there is no regret in their faces...jallu made a big mistake by sentencing both the loosers in the same cell...this time round the way they are going to plot against Akdha is going to be very dangerous...their plans are dangerous and its looks like we are going to have threesome joining hands in evil to destroy Akdha...its high time jallu behead all 3...they are a pain to our eyes...i hope jallu gets to know cheapu lustful intention for jodha...but it looks like MA will get to know this disgusting intention of cheapu and will support him in his mission...more disaster ahead...before all 3 dead...and its not going to be anytime soon...poor two loosers can't listen to tansen music...i am sure even they have heard abt the great voice of Ramtanu Pandey...

Akdha Moments

when MA read that jodha loves jallu...the expressions of jallu was worth-watching...he was blushing...he couldn't control his feelings but had to becos his badi ammi is infront of him...though i felt like slapping MA for playing with jallu emotions...but then when i saw his expressions...his blush...calms me down...in his eyes showed how much he is in relief that jodha loves him...the happiness was evident in his eyes...this means...he always waited for her to accept with whole heart...and after the written confession by jodha though fake by MA...he felt his wait is over...i felt bad for him becos the things running into his mind is totally opposite and he is in for a rude shock...

like both of us accept music is going to bind two hearts into one soul...and Akdha garden scenes was just the answer for us...the whole topic was abt music...and jodha was impressed that jallu is also fond of music...he loves music of the sword...his horse...when he kills enemies...they are all his source of music...his source of understanding music...and jodha's understand of music is nature...moonlight...chirping of birds...both are poles apart in nature but still attracts like magnets ...music is going to bring Akdha closer and its all due to tansen...he is a cupid...

at the end...i was totally laughing...🤣...jodha is talking abt tansen concert in double meaning and jallu is blushing thinking abt their C-night...😆...i don't blame currently he is intoxicated by love alcohol...🤣

Precap: it was too cute...jallu was blushing...but then he is deadly drunk😆...even more drunk than his first wedding night with jodha when he express his hate for her...😆...he has party hard all night with tansen raag...i hope we see tansen magic in the concert itself that might spread on Akdha...i guess thats the reason jallu is drunk...jodha's memories is enough to get any man drunk😉...or the other way is MA might spike his drink...😡

i don't know what is going to happen di...but i hope jallu express his feelings for jodha in his drunken state...when a person is vulnerable and weak...he intend to speak his heart and soul out...currently jallu is in that state...he has been hiding his feelings for jodha alot...its high time it comes out in open...

oh lord i hope the ghrina word doesn't make its appearance...i want it to lay dead in burial grounds itself

the other aspect i want to add...tansen music is not only going to bind two souls...but also his music is going to play in tackling political issues...

thank god tansen came as a breeze of air...otherwise we would have been suffocated by MA...cheapu and adham plotting and planning...

Good write up Mages! Lets see if next week is romantic or dram week..
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Posted: 11 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: meghanajain

Thanks Ela. You are unusually calm, something is wrong. You are not mad that Ja might hurt your Jo? Or do you want him to?

truth is I have not filly watched the episode...😆...and i have become fed up of this platonic relationship...I am happy that he is going to her...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

truth is I have not filly watched the episode...😆...and i have become fed up of this platonic relationship...I am happy that he is going to her...

Love your new spirit Ela! You sound more desperate than Jalal. I so hope next week is filled with romance and flirtiness.

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