2nd Dec JA-JO 'I come seeking justice Shehenshah & I trust you' - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
#11
hey its PASHVIK KARYA,means to act like an animal...
and i think and hopefully will want jodha to use diplomacy with honesty to get jalal to do the right thing,if the spoilers are to be believed,bcoz i dont think adham will eventually be allowed to marry tasneem...so if jalal has to be the chudiwala then jodha needs to also pull the strings somehow.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy


Technically, as a man of the court - he cannot force a girl to marry her against her wish...its against Sharia law...
(This comparison cannot be made to Jalal-Jodha's case because Jalal won Amer and according to the law then, he could claim to own everything and everyone in it..so even if Jodha was unwilling, Jalal wasn't breaking the law by wedding her...additionally, her father herself signed up for it to save Amer!)
I think when Jalal finds out Tasneem is unwilling, he'll vote against it...
besides, the whole law of girls under 14 not allowed to get married scenario could be brought to play here..🤔
Oh yes..RIP ghrina!😛

A little confusion in the law...

When Jalal won Amer, Amer became his property and his law would apply there as well. So Jodha, his subject was an unwilling bride.
Again, in the earlier episodes we had a baandhi who loved another man and almost got killed by Jalal. Surely, she wouldn't have been a willing inmate of the haram. Jalal must have got her in by force.

So Jalal himself had an unwilling bride and an unwilling baandi. How can he punish AK in this issue until he bends or changes the law?(Of course, I also find AK's lust on the young girl disgusting, but law is the same for all). Even if the law is changed, the gunah was committed when the old rules were in vogue. The wily MA will easily find loopholes to wriggle her repulsive son out.

It would be interesting to see how the issue is handled.

(And yes, AK did look totally bewildered at her "Paashvik Vyavahaar" comment. Jodha's sarva shudhdha hindi does confuse Jalal and us, the darshak at times))

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: baubles

Hello di...mast analysis!🤗

MA is one hell of a smart woman!! She plays her cards well..she knows what will work with whom!
As for the Adham-Tasneem-Jo scene..more than the scene I was wondering whether Adham was able to follow even 1% of what Jo was saying the whole time..😆gosh!! Kudos to Paridhi..Jo's dictionary is truly outta this world!
Ja-Jo scene...well all good except one thing. How is it that Jo is advising Jalal about how wrong it is to forgive a person's wrong-doings and not giving them dandh when it was just what she was doing with Bakshi??🥱
Adham was convincing in the last part..thanks to MA..
Precap looks great..Jalal looks innocent and lost😆I hope the 'grihna' word never makes a comeback again!


That is because if Jo forgives or punishes, it is uchith. She is mahaan.
If Jalal forgives or decides not to forgive it is anuchith. He is only insaan.

Even after Jalal declared to abdicate to uphold his vachan, Jo said that she can never Kshama him as he broke the other vachan (the mysterious one) on the thunderstorm night as she felt betrayed.
But if Jalal can't muaaf Bakshi, as he felt betrayed it was not uchith. Here forgiveness becomes sacred and mandatory.

So naturally, she can forgive Bakshi, but he cant forgive AK and he becomes a part-taker to AK's crimes if he does that.

Not just Jo's hindi dictionary, her uchith anuchith rulebook is also out of the world!😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: SoniLuvsRT

Wowww mindblowing analysis as usual👏👏👏
Episode was so-so😕
At the time of Akdha merriage Jo was BALIK(she was 20yrs old) but tasleem is NaBALIK(less than 14) plus she nt agreed for this merriage..so hw can this merriage possible🤔 Jalal do sumthing😕 do the justice🤔
I liked only JaJo scene😳😳
Jo was suberbb👏👏 she was looking very very pretty😳😳 when she came to jalal's khwabga..so beautiful
& Wow Kal Grina ki aakhri bidai hai[Hope so🤔]yup🤪🤪
Precap was superbbb🤪 jalal's expressions was priceless when she said ab hume aapse ghrina nhi hai🤪 woww


I loved that scene for Jalal's expressions, but I loved the MA bits too...she brings the 'mystery' element to the show... I liked how smartly she managed to turn the whole thing around...always a pleasure to be pitted against a smarter enemy than to be WITH a foolish friend comes to mind here...😆
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: history_geek

i feel humor is also a great part of historical shows..
and ur short and concise post was a treat to read...
afterall for a break..it was great reading this one.
😊

Awww abhay welcome ji...😳
aapki pehle comment yahaan pe...
Thanks😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pals2411

Loved tomorrow precap, Slowly and steadily Jodha is mellowing and the look on Jalal's face was so funny. Bechara😉

Yup he did look somewhat pyaar-ka-maaraa..😆
awww..😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: baubles

Hello di...mast analysis!🤗

MA is one hell of a smart woman!! She plays her cards well..she knows what will work with whom!
can you imagine how much she could have achieved if she actually utilized those brains for the benefit of the sultanat positively😕

As for the Adham-Tasneem-Jo scene..
more than the scene I was wondering whether Adham was able to follow even 1% of what Jo was saying the whole time..😆gosh!! Kudos to Paridhi..Jo's dictionary is truly outta this world!
Like the looks of it even I didn't understand it and have got it wrong..as aanchal has corrected me 😆

Ja-Jo scene...well all good except one thing. How is it that Jo is advising Jalal about how wrong it is to forgive a person's wrong-doings and not giving them dandh when it was just what she was doing with Bakshi??🥱
Tell me about it...but, then again...we do know that when comparing BB and Adham, one can easily make out the lesser of the two evils...
though yes, I never agreed to her mohabbat reason for forgiving BB..😆

Adham was convincing in the last part..thanks to MA..
MA can even make adham look convincing...he was like a class 2 child reciting poetry on stage pretaught by his mommy...😆
Precap looks great..Jalal looks innocent and lost😆I hope the 'grihna' word never makes a comeback again!
I swear!😆
Thanks dear 🤗

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks Soni😳

Originally posted by: aanchal_c

hey its PASHVIK KARYA,means to act like an animal...

and i think and hopefully will want jodha to use diplomacy with honesty to get jalal to do the right thing,if the spoilers are to be believed,bcoz i dont think adham will eventually be allowed to marry tasneem...so if jalal has to be the chudiwala then jodha needs to also pull the strings somehow.

Thanks for the correction dear...
don't know what you mean about the diplomacy bit 🤔
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi003

wow..fantabulous..:-D:-)..I was thinking whether the epi would be able enough to intrigue you to write something, And I am happy to be proven wrong..:-)

thanks sweetheart...you wouldn't believe it..but, watching MA's plans...I felt like writing one...😳

Maham is such a master in manhandleing, and she knows the right chord of jalal to make him to accept all her demands..
but one thing,the expression of jalal's face and specially of his eyes,wow,were just superb at the very last moment when adham told about the shariati law and the camera stopped on his face..:-)..wow..

true...though you know what...i have a feeling he's under duress of how to handle this since he's wed girls too...😕
lets see how they handle this...😳

P.S-your 'puppy dog' adjective for jalal's look in the precap is just apt..:-D;-) .how cute and adorable they are..
awww thanks😳

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sandhya.A

A little confusion in the law...

When Jalal won Amer, Amer became his property and his law would apply there as well. So Jodha, his subject was an unwilling bride.

Again, in the earlier episodes we had a baandhi who loved another man and almost got killed by Jalal. Surely, she wouldn't have been a willing inmate of the haram. Jalal must have got her in by force.
firstly, Jodha though initially unwilling - was coaxed by her parents to say yes for the safety of Amer...then, she put forth the two vachans thinking he wouldn't accept but he did...so even though she was emotionally unwilling...she didn't refute it outside the walls of her 4 rooms...also, simple fact- there was no one who could go against the shehenshah and fight for her...the one person who did got killed suryabhan..

besides, in most if not all autocratic monarchies, aren't there a different set of rules that hold good for the ruler in comparison with his subjects...

The age factor does come into play
When Jalal married Ruqs he did so with a willing bride for HIS own safety...here Adham has a 'supposedly' larger age difference and is doing so with an unwilling bride...

and history has shown that Akbar did marry young...but, later brought about the rule - so, he could have had a change of mind later? Here too, he was a different person when the show started and has become a different person now...

Dont know how they'll handle it?🤔


(And yes, AK did look totally bewildered at her "Paashvik Vyavahaar" comment. Jodha's sarva shudhdha hindi does confuse Jalal and us, the darshak at times))
😆true! and for your other replies to baubles too

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