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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: deejagi

Nicely written update Mansi.

To be frank with, I had not expected Jalal to recite the whole deatils of conspiracy of someone trapping them both with their sadistic idea of getting her symptoms of pregnancy to induce seperation. Did you think she would have accepted his explaination readily and would have pulled on her socks to join hands the two to nab the culprit? No, she would never have consider that as truth after his so many version to that particular night. Moreover, if she had been told about the real fact and convinced her about its genuineness, she would not have that agony on her face and her face, even if she wanted act as part of their charrade, would have had the glow which would have spoiled the whole thing of catching the culprit ( Don't ask me whether they will catch her now). If the culprit has gone to that much detail and when it was concluded that , she is from the palace, for sure she is keeping an eye on this couple and the moment Jalal had uttered those words on her purity, they would have been alerted and could have stopped their plan of excution for the time being. So he had to keep Jodha in Dark for some more time.
Coming to the lady in dishuise, now I am 100% sure that it was not Bakshi Banu as the mastermind seems to be Shareef. he would not be a fool to trust Bakshi in this grave task and give her the rope to tie his hands. MOreover, if the lady had to complete the task during Jashan, how could that be Bakshi as, as a sister, she was bound to attend the Jashan fully decorated and here we saw the lady covered in Gungat was serving some drink (may be Gulab ki Sharbat) duly wearing handful of Green bangles (not just one kada). Now I suspect Shareef would have track down Faridha who had been thrown out of Jalal's life and also from the royal living for the exact reason of Infidility. Most probably, he would have hired her promissing huge money in return for this favour, so that she can lead a better life and also take revenge on Jalal. She would have fallen prey to his words. For all I know, even if she is not caught by Jalal's soldiers, she would have been killed after completion of her task (by Shareef's soldiers)
May be be now I can believe that BB would hve tried to give an antidot to Jodha by changing the adultrated milk before MOti collect that from the kitchen but would have failed due to the entry of saleema Begum.
Felt really bad for Jalal when he thought that even now, the names will be in his mind only as there will not be any baby now.



Deejagi.. I too think BB can't be culprit. She can't be so much evil and try to divide JJ only for her husband. Lavina also tweeted the culprit is " Shareef", but BB being involved may be suspicious, hope today the truth come out. Waiting to see the women who is helping Shariff..😡

I too think Jodha can't stop feeling happy, as nothing happened.. I think Jalaal wants to find the culprit and he sure, the women will come jashan, and he can catch her red handed.. Even though i felt bad for jodha, may be jalaal doesn't want to share it with jodha, as their private talk already leaked and knows the women is eyeing on Jodha..
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: deepa911


Excellent take.

Same thoughts about Jalal hiding truth from Jodha. I can not write in as good words as yours. But I felt CVs were glorifying Jalal's sorrow (of being childless) at cost of Jodha's pains. Jodha's reactions made her appear as if she is insensitive towards Jalal's feeling!

You've written a fabulous sentence there yourself!👍🏼
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: abhi786

Mansi episode in good pace and not a filler.

Poor Hakim proved her loyality, by giving the clue before her death. Jalaal got the clue with Agdha khan also there for investigation..

MA still doesn't have clue what's going on. She is still thinking jodha is carrying illegitimate child and Jalaal supporting her..

Jalaal noticed jodha wearing the ring. JJ talk while walking to jashaan is good, with jodha saying she will leave Agra after delivery, , but he is buzy in giving names to the unborn kid, which irked jodha .Jodha wants to see, jalaal atleast feeling sorry for what he did to her that night. She doesn't not have Ghirna also, but angry only.

When Jodha didn't see any guilty in jalaal, also he told her he doesn't feel what she is thinking. So she refer him as animal , and then took the route which he knows jodha gets irritated.. The way he is explaining to her convincingly, it's her she is after him..

Jodha is so embarrased saying jhoot johoot johoot... He surely knows how to divert jodha and stop her ranting topic, and gets jodha reaction...

Jodha now doesn't want to see jalaal in that direction, she clearly knows he is attracted to her beauty and wants physical relationship. She thinking if she starting seeing him in that light, she may loose herself.. I think she is controlling herself, as she also felt that physical attraction when he touch her, but first she want to have full confidence that jalaal will not break her or use and throw her after physical relationship, she wants much more from her husband.

Felt bad for Ruqu, she is trying hard to hide her feelings.Today she looked beautiful and HB also commented that.. Ruku loves jalaal in a twisted way, but i think till now she doesn't feel that she loves Jalaal, may be when JJ get close she gets her feelings. JJR triangle will be interesting if CVS show the deep feelings, for that they need not make Ruku negative also..

Abhi, I think that paragraph in blue is a brilliant analysis of Jodha! Especially the part where you write that she knows he is attracted to her, and she too is somewhere attracted to him, but she is afraid of being used and thrown!👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jaya, you are so logical in your statements that it is very hard to argue the opposite point with you!👏👏👏👏👏👏
But I knew when I was writing the post itself that we would have divided forum today and this decision of Jalal will become hotly debated! The truth is there is every reason to accept that he did the right thing considering the short time at hand, the risk assessment he made regarding Jodha, and the fact that he thought "Having lied so far what difference will one more day make? Anyway Jodha will be told the truth very shortly!"
I understand all this intellectually, but my heart is taking Jodha's position so I guess I have my own internal conflict on this issue. My heart does not feel the rightness of what happened!😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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mansi I understand where this thoughts in you are coming from, trust Jalal, he is gonna take the whole burden to appease and convince Jodha but things must happen as per it's priority, the thing has done not only at the stake of their relationship but also at the stake of mughal empire's pride and it's heir of the throne. This kind of treason with a king directly subjects to death penalty.
Before a husband, he is a king, so the first thing comes to him is to make sure that no one can play with his empire's pride, his stature and malign the dignity. hence first thing he thought to do was to catch the culprit, and then it comes to tell Jodha the truth. First king who's duty is to catch and punish the accuse and then a husband who shares the pain with his wife, tries to appease her.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: skanda12

Jaya, you are so logical in your statements that it is very hard to argue the opposite point with you!👏👏👏👏👏👏
But I knew when I was writing the post itself that we would have divided forum today and this decision of Jalal will become hotly debated! The truth is there is every reason to accept that he did the right thing considering the short time at hand, the risk assessment he made regarding Jodha, and the fact that he thought "Having lied so far what difference will one more day make? Anyway Jodha will be told the truth very shortly!"
I understand all this intellectually, but my heart is taking Jodha's position so I guess I have my own internal conflict on this issue. My heart does not feel the rightness of what happened!😕

Mansi, be happy that she is in Agra while the investigation & preparations to catch the culprit is going on.
I had anticipated and even written on your post of Monday's that she may be sent to Amer (as if to keep her happy @ Maika) and only after the culprit is caugt, she will be revealed the truth. May be jalal could ot bear the seperation😉😉😉. Frankly I am happy that she is kept in dark, as of now, she is bearing all these thinking taht she is carrying the Mughal Waaris in her womb (however hard it is to accept the way of conceiving, a mother can't hate her child), So she is passive to all her emotions, think in the otehr way, had she been told all the truth and ask her to put on the facade, and still give the impression to oters that she might eb impregnanted by some one or someone is still thinking that her husband believes her to have an affair with a unknown man (unknown to Agra people), is it possible to act like that. She would have slapped him, had he asked her to do that. She would have just marched out teling him "to hell with you and your Agra, I had had enough of this rubbish because of you. Whether you want to catch the culprit or not, I don't care, I am leaving. The mission acomplished.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: pallavi003

mansi I understand where this thoughts in you are coming from, trust Jalal, he is gonna take the whole burden to appease and convince Jodha but things must happen as per it's priority, the thing has done not only at the stake of their relationship but also at the stake of mughal empire's pride and it's heir of the throne. This kind of treason with a king directly subjects to death penalty.

Before a husband, he is a king, so the first thing comes to him is to make sure that no one can play with his empire's pride, his stature and malign the dignity. hence first thing he thought to do was to catch the culprit, and then it comes to tell Jodha the truth. First king who's duty is to catch and punish the accuse and then a husband who shares the pain with his wife, tries to appease her.

Yes that is a good argument too ... king vs man!👏👏👏
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: deejagi

Mansi, be happy that she is in Agra while the investigation & preparations to catch the culprit is going on.
I had anticipated and even written on your post of Monday's that she may be sent to Amer (as if to keep her happy @ Maika) and only after the culprit is caugt, she will be revealed the truth. May be jalal could ot bear the seperation😉😉😉. Frankly I am happy that she is kept in dark, as of now, she is bearing all these thinking taht she is carrying the Mughal Waaris in her womb (however hard it is to accept the way of conceiving, a mother can't hate her child), So she is passive to all her emotions, think in the otehr way, had she been told all the truth and ask her to put on the facade, and still give the impression to oters that she might eb impregnanted by some one or someone is still thinking that her husband believes her to have an affair with a unknown man (unknown to Agra people), is it possible to act like that. She would have slapped him, had he asked her to do that. She would have just marched out teling him "to hell with you and your Agra, I had had enough of this rubbish because of you. Whether you want to catch the culprit or not, I don't care, I am leaving. The mission acomplished.

Yes that point I concede, Jaya ... unlike Salima, who is steady, this Jodha is definitely unpredictable!

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