Clues to the saazish ... and to breaking Jodhas reserve! - Page 9

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Guys,let me tell you something..though this track is for the development of trust between jalal and jodha but there is something everybody is missing..it started with the panokh battle and is on the verge of becoming the next track..this is the waning influence of MA and adham khan..it will ultimate lead to AK' s death and MA's too for that matter..it will pave way for Jo's brothers to enter the emperor's inner circle,become his confidante and his sincere advisors..so think of what it spells for the jalal-jo relationship..the family which will fill his quest for somebody who isn't aspiring for the throne..for me the pregnancy episode is just a step taken forward to this ultimate realisation called "family"..this started during the war ,built up during the amer visit and now moving towards fruition ..the trust is necessary but the vacuum in the emperor also needs to be filled_-a selfless family affections
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

Guys,let me tell you something..though this track is for the development of trust between jalal and jodha but there is something everybody is missing..it started with the panokh battle and is on the verge of becoming the next track..this is the waning influence of MA and adham khan..it will ultimate lead to AK' s death and MA's too for that matter..it will pave way for Jo's brothers to enter the emperor's inner circle,become his confidante and his sincere advisors..so think of what it spells for the jalal-jo relationship..the family which will fill his quest for somebody who isn't aspiring for the throne..for me the pregnancy episode is just a step taken forward to this ultimate realisation called "family"..this started during the war ,built up during the amer visit and now moving towards fruition ..the trust is necessary but the vacuum in the emperor also needs to be filled_-a selfless family affections

Wow, Sangeetha ...there is another void to be filled in Jalal's life and that is the void of a "true family"!👏👏👏👏👏
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Just felt I should add a historical fact-munim khan was a wazir before shamsuddin atga khan was appointed in his place..MA and adham khan were really put off by the emperor's decision on this replacement as munim khan was puppet in the hands of MA..yesterday's conversation between MA and adham khan was prophetic to me as well as intermingling of this with the pregnancy track..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

Just felt I should add a historical fact-munim khan was a wazir before shamsuddin atga khan was appointed in his place..MA and adham khan were really put off by the emperor's decision on this replacement as munim khan was puppet in the hands of MA..yesterday's conversation between MA and adham khan was prophetic to me as well as intermingling of this with the pregnancy track..

Oh OK ... so eventually Atga Khan gets the post? But why does Munim get replaced by Atga? Does he get exposed as the henchman of MA and Adham?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Oh OK ... so eventually Atga Khan gets the post? But why does Munim get replaced by Atga? Does he get exposed as the henchman of MA and Adham?

Politically astute is jalal..after shaking off bairam khan' s overbearing influence on his empire's administration ,he will realise in next two years that BK' s place has taken over by MA..he started monitoring the loyalties of those in his administration.jalal will realise there have been irregularities in financial administration but will not be able to prove it and his investigation will point out to adham khan being the culprit...then he eased out munim khan by giving him governorship of an obscure province..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

Politically astute is jalal..after shaking off bairam khan' s overbearing influence on his empire's administration ,he will realise in next two years that BK' s place has taken over by MA..he started monitoring the loyalties of those in his administration.jalal will realise there have been irregularities in financial administration but will not be able to prove it and his investigation will point out to adham khan being the culprit...then he eased out munim khan by giving him governorship of an obscure province..

Sangeetha, sorry to be troublesome with my questions! But why and how did Maham die? Was she executed for that insinuation that Jodha was having an affair with Sujamal (as in the movie) or did she die of natural causes? I know Adham was executed, but how did Maham die?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sangeetha, sorry to be troublesome with my questions! But why and how did Maham die? Was she executed for that insinuation that Jodha was having an affair with Sujamal (as in the movie) or did she die of natural causes? I know Adham was executed, but how did Maham die?

No problem..keep probing as knowledge is power.. MA died 40 days after adham khan..it is said that she died of shock and broken heart.historically it was a natural death..40 days is the mourning period subscribed as per Islamic law but it is surprising that she died exactly on the 40th day..there are lot of rumours surrounding her death but jalal put all this to rest by building a mausoleum for MA and adham khan,actually honouring them..the movie JA has got lot of facts wrong
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

No problem..keep probing as knowledge is power.. MA died 40 days after adham khan..it is said that she died of shock and broken heart.historically it was a natural death..40 days is the mourning period subscribed as per Islamic law but it is surprising that she died exactly on the 40th day..there are lot of rumours surrounding her death but jalal put all this to rest by building a mausoleum for MA and adham khan,actually honouring them..the movie JA has got lot of facts wrong

OMG, I get the feeling that jalal has got quite savvy on Maham and bumped her off in a fishy way and then wrapped it up with a mausoleum!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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OMG, I get the feeling that jalal has got quite savvy on Maham and bumped her off in a fishy way and then wrapped it up with a mausoleum!

The rumours are fuelled by two lines in AKBARNAMA..it goes like this"the emperor was heartbroken about the role of a lady in him remaining childless"..it doesn't refer to the lady by name so we really don't know whether it is MA but it is surely before salim' s birth..I don't think jalal was heartless as to have killed her..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Brilliant write-up Mansi. also loved your'corridor' analysis.

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