Anger, suspense and the first hints of clues! - Page 7

good post with nice anlysis

Originally posted by: lashy

It's not about him saath dena...I think that line was more a metaphor than a literal 'saath denaa'

I think he needs to find out the culprit for the sake of his own sanity..

have you seen how a jealous angry man reacts - add to that reaction the fact that he's a 16th century young blooded warrior Shehenshah (who claimed NEVER to have a dil and yet begun to be tugged towards Jodha for whatever reason) -then, everything will be amplified 1000 times!

He wants to find out the culprit...and through the course of that investigation is when he'll find out his lovely Begum was innocent after all...

Originally posted by: deepika45

good post with nice anlysis

Originally posted by: bhavisweet

nice analysis 👏

Originally posted by: skanda12

Yes Abie, though they both were shouting it was a kind of really raw pain! Poor things!

That lady seems confirmed as Bakshi bano. See this post someone has made with the two pictures showing the same hand with the same finger rings!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3811177/proof-that-bakshi-banu-did-it

Yes if Salima also shows preggy symptoms, Jalal will hit the roof! But then he may also be mightily relieved about Jodha's situation!

Originally posted by: Abie10

Thanks for the link! Those two pictures confirmed it to be Bakshi Bano. But why will she do that? Or has she been threatened by her evil husband?😕 Just hope this misunderstanding ends by tomorrow because both Jalal and Jodha are in so much pain. And in this situation one can't blame them for doubting one another.

Originally posted by: skanda12

Abie,

Bakshi could be doing this either due to Sharif's pressure ... or she may also be trying to help Jodha by doing something to counteract Sharif's plans? Maybe she is mixing some antidote in that milk to erase the symptoms of that sherbet?

Originally posted by: skanda12

You've got a very good point there, Jaya. I never thought of it like that before. But now that you have raised the point this is what I feel after some thought:

In the first place "trust" I think should not be just about letting others make your decisions for you. Sometimes allowing them to do so or sometimes not allowing them to do is not the kind of trust that helps prove if there is trust or not.

On the other hand, there is another kind of "trust" entirely ... and that is about the trustworthiness of the people around you in your crisis time. They may not help make your life decisions, nor do you need to let them make your decisions for you. But you can try to judge if they will be there for you in a crisis! And the trust factor becomes even more confirmed when the other person puts his/her own life situation at risk in order to stand by you in your crisis!

I think that is the kind of trust that Jodha and Jalal need to judge if they have for each other. And in fact judged in this way both of them have actually already proved their trustworthiness to each other in some ways ...

For example, he did stand by her in that religious-conversion crisis. And that sentence he said at that lunch date that if Hamida hadn't intervened I would have stood by you, was the stamp of that trust worthiness! His throne was at risk and yet he stood by her letting her make the religious decision instead of making it for her.

And she did stand by him in that fort business at Amer when she argued that he need not give his fort to the sasur! She even went to the extent of supporting the Mughal family on the issue at the risk of her sister's Sukanya's wedding and possible future ruin of Sukanya if the wedding failed ... and she won Jalal's acknowledgement of her role done for him.

What is needed for Jodha and jalal now is to remember how trustworthy they both have been for each other already. Then in this issue of the ppregnancy also they will feel that they can and should again offer each other the same level of trust. It is a crisis not only foor Jodha but also for Jalal. They both need to remember that they have already offered each other that trustability before, and they can do so again.

They are temporarily blinded by the magnitude of the problem, but if they could just remember past instances when they have been trustable for each other, they can bring back that same trustworthiness in themselves again!

Originally posted by: deejagi

You are right about trustworthiness and hving trustworthy people around you. But unfortunate thins is that during crisis, all see is only the engulping darkness. Even if you find a ray of hope, that might look like a mirage. When you are feard even the rope you are holding will look like a Snake which is all ready to snap. So at present ther are hardly in the position of thinking of the trustworthy acts by the other person. That will take time.

If the temperrary blindness is due to the glaring head light of a vehicle, one can immediately snap back to normalcy but here this couple are blinded by LIGHNING & deafen by the thunderbolts. So even after the rain is stopped, the effect of the thundernolt will be hammering in the ears. As teh say goes, "Though the rain stopped, the droplets from the tree is not stopped". For that to stop it takes either time or if miracle happens, a sunny day with glaring sun to evaporate the water droplets on the leaves.

Lets hope in ome way or the other, the Sun shines on this couple and evaporate the sadness altogether.

Great Post mansi ,

It was a sad episode for once it got me thinking twice about all tht jodha has gone through . As u know iam not a a staunch supporter of hers in terms of her behaviour but her plight is what caught my attention.

And look at the tip of tales , till yesterday we were calculating the loss jalal would have to face against's jodha's from this unfortunate sazzish but with MA's entry , the tables turned around and now we could clearly see wat an unfathomable amount of insult jodha was heading towards.

Yesterday , was day where i did not expect either jodha or jalal to use brains , because one cannot use brains when going through shock and surprise . In their case , it was important to vent or face each other first , the situations are such tht one cannot deny confusion , it is in the air and you simply cannot avoid breathing it .

But now tht intial confrontation is done , i would at least hope to see some brians at work , it could be either salima , ruqiaya or jalal himself . Salima in the case , where either she is sick or ruqaiaya in the case where the news spreads along with tht time of conception , may be she confront jalal and brings to light tht fact tht it happened in AMer n thus get jalal to think.
And jalal in the case , where he is thinking about jodha and re-evaluating her persona,and thus having holding onto the belief that she can't do this.

Besides this I was happy tht even hamida was not besides jodha anymore on this issue because it would increase the impact of jalal being on her side , which is gud for jodha and us who have gone thru' all the pain as well.😭

Mansi , but iam not sure tht would jalal break the news to jodha first , I think after the uproar may be jodha is asked to presented in the court n here is where jalal would support her . His support in private won't do her any gud at this point in time .


And jaya , as far as jodha coming out of this incident , it would not be that difficult for her and i share my thoughts with mansi on this one .

See , if you individually break jodha and jalal into different entities then it is possible to see jodha take a long time to forget all the accusations however if you take then as an entity and the situation as the enemy , then in that case it would be clear to jodha that there was a bigger saazish against her , putting in jeopardy also her relation with her husband , and the same husband stood besides her .

She might be angry and disgusted for a while but would definitely understand the gravity of situation and jalal's perspective , because both of them were at fault and it would do them good if they give up fighting against each other. She has to understand that there are people eyeing her relationship with jalal n they would continuously plot against both of them not only her and am sure if she does not understand this on her own , either moti or her ammijaan would bring the point home.

And who knows , if due to turn of events, and with jalal's suspicion rounding off , he may do a U turn in front of every one , thus surprising her as well and jodha may hold onto her ground there n then , like they say the last bullet in your gun decides your target .Jalal's trust on her might be the only thing she has to hold on to and this realization stays with her as an outcome of this saazish.


Kashi