Anger, suspense and the first hints of clues! - Page 6

Originally posted by: skanda12

Baubles, I so agree with you on Bakshi Bano! I am always able to sympathise with people who are genuine victims of other people's evil. But I draw the line when I find women who choose to think of themselves as victimised when they could stand up for what they believe if they find someone close to them doing evil.

See in that older scene at Amer when Bakshi tells Jodha not to expose Sharif, her reason for trying to save Sharif is not because she loves him or believes him to be innocent etc. Her reason is that she has been through widowhood once and doesn't want that again.

I can fully see why she says that because when the plight of women was so bad in general at that time, the life of a widow must have been hundred times worse. But still, in my book, that is not a good enough reason to aid someone like your husband to "harm" someone else and get away with it.

She has to have some principles of where she looks at self-interest versus harm to others wilfully done and abetted. If she wants to be flexible to her husband let her condone what he does to her (if that makes her feel it is better than being a widow). But when he is harming someone else, she cannot in all conscience be an abetter to crime just to prevent a second widowhood. My mind is unable to buy that position!

That's why I hope even if she was the one in the kitchen, she was at least surreptitiously trying to undo what Sharif was doing rather than helping Sharif harm Jodha-Jalal marriage!

Originally posted by: skanda12

@Jaya:

Oh God, three opinions. My mother would love that!

Where have you added the part about "trust"? Couldn't find it ... can you copy/paste it again separately?

Originally posted by: deejagi

Pregnancy is one such thing which is objective, where it is the proof, reality and hence everyone will doubt you since a lady can be preganct only if she had a relationship with a man (not unless it is artificial Insemination which was missing in those days). About trust, it is not only with pregnancy but even while fixing an allience by parents or choosing a parner by the children, it comes in to picture though not with that intensity. We trust our parents to give us better education, better cloths, all teh best facilities available in the world but when it comes to choosing our partner, we will tell them your tastes doesn't suite me and I will choose my own... where was that trust gone whihc we had when they choose our school, college, clothes, ornaments etc...

At teh same time even parents, they will allow the child to choose the colour for his/her room, vehicle etc. when it comes to choosing his wife or her husband, that trust fails...

It is not because they lost confidance in each other, but only because, it is believed that a life partner is for the life time and there should not be any mistake, you can't keep changing them as you do with the wall papers... So is the virginity of a girl...,

Originally posted by: abhi786

Manasi good post .. Even though the episode is sad and the track is streching, the episode was good.

Jalal and Jodha gave killer looks with so much pain while both are praying. Maham has got the answer there itself.

JJ faceoff is so good.. Both are valid in their views.. Jalaal knows he didn't touch her, while jodha says he has hisab of all days except that night where Jalaal is taking care of her. Loved how Jodha said 'Another man can never even touch my shadow,forget about touching me'... she was broken, with Jalaal going to find out all the hisbab of her other nights also.

You can see jodha broke down with mothi and angry by throwing the fruits plate and cursing herself hating the day she got married with him.

Maham, was quick the use the situation according to her motive only to "shame Jodha" in public. So the suspence started with someone mixing in the milk. Salima is a sweetheart heart, testing the milk by drinking herself.

I think tommorw HB will say Jodha to leave agra, while she is ready to leave Salima may help and jalaal may stop side with jodha. I want jodha to stop talking to anyone, not to HB.. I know HB was right, but atleast try to have another check-up to confirm..

I think if the culprit is Shariff, may be we will come to know the Durg truth also, which will shake Jalaal much more.

Originally posted by: jyoti06

Mansi awesome take 👏👏 .. Mages I loved your take too 👏👏

Jyoti, good you're here ... was waiting to see if you also felt that utter a sadness at the way this Jodha and jalal are caught in this misunderstanding! I am broken seeing their plight!

What I feel is the main purpose of this track is to make both Jalal and Jodha realise in the end that both first need to trust each other's words or else outside enemy will always keep taking advantage of their relationship to create such misunderstandings ...

Coming to the episode , I too felt bad when Jalal and Jodha were hving that argument where both their eyes were filled with tears of pain .. Neither Jodha can believe how Jalal dint keep his promise and now instead blaming her for the pregnency with a serious accusation of cheating and nor Jalal can believe how Jodha first cheated on him and now instead blaming him for breaking his promise but the sad part is both r wrong in their beliefs this time ..sighh ... I really cant blame both because the situation is such that both parties are in shock and disbelief and its happening because there is a lack of trust in their own relationship which is where enemies r taking advantage

It all comes back to that thing we always keep saying "Wish they were fighting enemies together as a team - instead of each other". The minute they have issue with each other the whole world is waiting to pounce and take advantage!

Coming to that milk fiasco , its clear that somthing is fishy and its a conspiracy for sure .. in earlier days there were no pregnency test kit or those stuffs to detect pregnency .. so most of these ladies used to detect it with various symptoms like mood sings etc etc ... so its actually easy to mix something in drink and create those symptoms and then blame the woman that she is preggy .. I felt the woman's eyes resemble bakshi bano but the question is why will Bakshi bano do this ... Did her husband Shariff force her to do this thing so that Jalal gets all worked up in this issue and Shariff can take over Agra 😕.. I m sure Bakshi bano on her own will never harm Jodha ka character this way na 😕

Jyoti, it could also be that Bakshi is trying to mix some antidote in that milk to counteract the effect of the poison in the sherbet? She may be silently undermining Sharif's conspiracy?

Coming to Maham's evil plans , well its obvious she will do chance pe dance over this and butcher Jodha's character for her own sadistic pleasure

The day she is made to do nanga naach by Jalal, I will be most happy! She has to be caught some day ... I am waiting, waiting, waiting!

Originally posted by: skanda12

Brilliant point!👏

Originally posted by: Abie10

Mansi great post! The episode was a sad with two broken souls from the inside. Both in pain due to this dirty conspiracy by Shariffudin. But my query now is who was that lady in the kitchen who's an accomplice to Shariffudin?

And that's a valid point you've made about Salima being of help to Jalal in this track.👍🏼 If Salima is also diagnosed with the same disease after that sip then Jalal will go nuts.😆😆