Jodha Akbar 105 & 106: Sound and Fury - Page 9

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yes Ariel I too read the update it was sooo disappointing, and thoroughly disgusting. Ok why couldn't jalal just disprove the pregnancy why did he have to make false claims. It was sickening to admit to something he didn't do, and Hamida bano is right he was playing a game but for whose benefit jodha. He was already helping her out with but with these false claims he only diminishes his own integrity and gives jodha further ammunition. Now comes jodha staring with a lie I think all of Mughal sultanate knows she hates her husband with all the stunts she has pulled. All she does is further humiliate him in this case what can we say even we can't blame her because jalal shouldn't have put himself in that position. So what is the conclusion of all this, a pregnancy is disproved at what cost. What is going to happen when he proves she is not pregnant what will he say then ooopsss I slept with her but false diagnosis, or no I did not but I lied anyways so that everyone can see what a fool I am, oh wait we have a relation but we lost the baby this way he doesn't come out as a liar and tongues stopped wagging regarding their relationship.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i think the only saving grace will be salima begum in this case. bcoz jodha wont believe tht jalal havent slept with her, even if the truth of fake pregnancy comes out. & i cant blame her, bcoz this time jalal himself invited this situation. i feel he should have at least told hamida the whole truth privately, so tht she could have thought logically.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83
Oh, Kamal, your crack about the virtual baby is a scream!

As for the rest, I agree with you without any reservations.It was a crass episode, so crude and lowbrow.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: KDR81


Hi Ariel and Shyamala(and all),

@Ariel: No u r not alone...the 1st part where HB does all the betukhi baatein and then Jalaal comes in to rescue Jo from the pit...and in the process makes himself look like a Royal A**H***...this whole sequence was enough to make me feel sick to the core...!!🤢

I guess CVs need to put a bridle on their choice of lines and dialogues as the serial is supposed to be a Mass-entertainer...!!
I simply have problem in digesting the following things specially:
1.How can a Royal Saas like HB come fuming to Jo asking her all sorts of lowly questions, instead of 1st having a word with her own son??😕
2. How on earth can an Emperor like Ja 1st spill out all the details of their BR story to the Hakim in presence of SB and Guards(r the guards deaf and dumb BTW??)

3.Walk in proudly to declare in front of his already upset Mom et al that he indeed have taken full Lutf of Raat Bitanaa and had mistakenly doubted Jo as he had some doubts abt his own potency...??😕😕 And indeed he was the proud Abbajaan of the Virtual Baby ( which is already a co-hated soul, courtesy it's Virtual Ghrina-ing Ammi..)

I simply don't have words to describe the cringing that I felt seeing the portrayal...🤢😕🤢

The other parts of the epi were so so and quite predictable...

Regards,
Kamal

P.S.Instead of this blown-up grossness, why couldn't Ja arrange for a board of Special Lady Hakims to double-check Jo?? Was there a Dearth of Lady Hakims in Sultanate??😕



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Posted: 11 years ago
#84
Aunty, Kamal, Ariel so far Sonia has summarized it very well...
in case those of you who were confused about where Jalal stood with the whole 'IT' phenomena since it seems to keep changing on a daily basis😛

Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#85
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Originally posted by: lashy

Aunty, Kamal, Ariel so far Sonia has summarized it very well...

in case those of you who were confused about where Jalal stood with the whole 'IT' phenomena since it seems to keep changing on a daily basis😛



Just now read ur "IT Theory"...and commented too!!
😆 🤣
Doesn't it ominously resemble the famous Hamlet Phrase...??😆
Indeed, for us "IT or NO IT, THAT IS THE QUESTION...!!"
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Posted: 11 years ago
#86

Originally posted by: KDR81

?

Just now read ur "IT Theory"...and commented too!!
😆 🤣
Doesn't it ominously resemble the famous Hamlet Phrase...??😆
Indeed, for us "IT or NO IT, THAT IS THE QUESTION...!!"


😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#87
Well, folks, here it is for those too lazy or too exasperated to go to that page. I did not want you to miss such a treasure!

Shyamala Aunty

Posted: 15 November 2013 at 10:53pm | IP Logged
Lashy, my sweet, a very big 🤗 to you for having made me stop gritting my teeth - which was not at all good for my teeth enamel at my advanced age!😉 - and laugh instead.

This is precisely what the doctor ordered, and it should be put up, in both the English and Hindi versions, at the beginning of every episode for the next week, instead of the 31 second disclaimer.

They cannot have a voice over, for any reader would collapse in helpless giggles even after umpteen retakes, but they can write it in bold letters and hold each version for 15.5 seconds, which should be enough even for slow readers.

Shyamala Aunty


Originally posted by lashy

Credit to Sonia (who thought it all up so creatively) and Sunny (for the last bits😛)

Jalal's ...I did IT !...I didn't do IT !

Morning after the snowstorm...
Jalal: Under the circumstances , I had to do IT !

When asked by Ruqaiyya
Jalal: So what if I might have done IT with her, why does it bother you?

When asked about broken vachan by Jodha
Jalal: I didn't do IT ! Only Kaala Kapda did IT!

When asked by a frustrated Ruqaiyya yet again
Jalal: Hey I was only joking...I haven't done IT with her (yet)!

After the fiasco blew out of proportion - When Jodha questioned him in front of Ruqaiyya...
Jalal: I only did IT because you wanted to do IT too!

In the supposed privacy of Jodha's room later on
Jalal: I didn't do IT ! So who did you do IT with?

In front of everyone today
Jalal: Ladies calm down - I did IT! I just wasn't sure if I efficiently went the whole hog, but hurrah looks like it worked after all!

Tomorrow...(or whenever Jalal tells Jodha the truth)
Jalal: Actually, I didn't do IT! Will never do IT in lieu of our non-existant Vachan! What you have in your tummy Jodha Begum is just gas!
Jodha *faints*

The Harem ladies

Originally posted by: lashy

Aunty, Kamal, Ariel so far Sonia has summarized it very well...

in case those of you who were confused about where Jalal stood with the whole 'IT' phenomena since it seems to keep changing on a daily basis😛

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Cleo,

I do not see why you should feel so hesitant about criticising my posts. I would not mind in the least, for it is your right not to agree with anything or everything I write. I write what I feel, and I am no one's fan.But it is hardly obligatory for you to like everything I write just because you liked some of my posts.

So relax, and feel free not to like them! If you want to tell me why you did not like them, please do. That does not mean either that I would agree with you or that I would change my way of writing. But I am open to being convinced of a different viewpoint if you can manage it.

Shyamala B.Cowsik



Please see my post and the comment that was posted later when you get a chance. I'll appreciate it. I named it ' understanding Jodha with kindness' . The comment just explains why I decided to write my first post on this forum. It is an unedited version so please ignore spelling/ grammar part and focus on the content. I'll try to post an edited version in a day or two. I'd like to mention something here that I forgot to mention in the post. I request all the gifted forum writers to please refrain from making any judgemental comments against a religion or community. We are all safe from Jodha, Akbar and other characters. We can bash them as much as we want...They will not come back and file a defamation lawsuit against us... But any statement against a religion or community can make a very healthy discussion on the forum go in the wrong direction. I recall reading a post where the writer made a comment on the Rajput community during one of his/ her anti Jodha rants. This comment was really not needed in that otherwise beautifully written post. So let us not get too carried away and try and stay respectful towards everyone who may be reading these posts. Thanks!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by lashy

Credit to Sonia (who thought it all up so creatively) and Sunny (for the last bits😛)

Jalal's ...I did IT !...I didn't do IT !

Morning after the snowstorm...
Jalal: Under the circumstances , I had to do IT !

When asked by Ruqaiyya
Jalal: So what if I might have done IT with her, why does it bother you?

When asked about broken vachan by Jodha
Jalal: I didn't do IT ! Only Kaala Kapda did IT!

When asked by a frustrated Ruqaiyya yet again
Jalal: Hey I was only joking...I haven't done IT with her (yet)!

After the fiasco blew out of proportion - When Jodha questioned him in front of Ruqaiyya...
Jalal: I only did IT because you wanted to do IT too!

In the supposed privacy of Jodha's room later on
Jalal: I didn't do IT ! So who did you do IT with?

In front of everyone today
Jalal: Ladies calm down - I did IT! I just wasn't sure if I efficiently went the whole hog, but hurrah looks like it worked after all!

Tomorrow...(or whenever Jalal tells Jodha the truth)
Jalal: Actually, I didn't do IT! Will never do IT in lieu of our non-existant Vachan! What you have in your tummy Jodha Begum is just gas!
Jodha *faints*

The Harem ladies

thank you for the summary. i was so confused.

now i realize it's brain rot 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I quite agree with you about @red, especially as regards any negative comment about religion, which is totally to be avoided. As regards any comments on the Rajputs, or the Rajvanshis, as they are safely called in the serial these days, that needs to be qualified.

For example, it is repeatedly asserted in Jodha Akbar that Rajvanshis do not do this or do not do that - do not lie, or cheat, or betray one another and so on. These are blanket character certificates self-assigned to a whole group, and that clearly in the historical context. Any academic would question such assertions in a book, and that cannot be called defamation, would you not agree?

Every community or group has black sheep, be it the Rajvanshis or the Mughals. That Raja Jaichand invited Mohammed Ghori to come back to India is 1192 and attack his son in law Prithviraj Chauhan is a historical fact. But on the other hand, neither can this example be used to tarnish the Rajputs, who were overwhelmingly brave to a suicidal degree, with a very fine sense of honour and loyalty to match.

Then again,that they were often disunited is also a historical fact, and this is bemoaned repeatedly both in the much more historically faithful Maharana Pratap serial, and in Jodha Akbar. This is again an objective assessment made by eminent historians, and this cannot be seen as motivated or blanket criticism.

Within these parameters, I would agree with your points in this post. I would only add that while you are concerned about the misrepresentation of the Rajvanshis/Rajputs, there are forum members who are equally if not more concerned about what they see as misrepresentations of the Mughals.

Shyamala B.Cowsik

Originally posted by: Cleo12345

Please see my post and the comment that was posted later when you get a chance. I'll appreciate it. I named it ' understanding Jodha with kindness' . The comment just explains why I decided to write my first post on this forum. It is an unedited version so please ignore spelling/ grammar part and focus on the content. I'll try to post an edited version in a day or two. I'd like to mention something here that I forgot to mention in the post. I request all the gifted forum writers to please refrain from making any judgemental comments against a religion or community. We are all safe from Jodha, Akbar and other characters. We can bash them as much as we want...They will not come back and file a defamation lawsuit against us... But any statement against a religion or community can make a very healthy discussion on the forum go in the wrong direction. I recall reading a post where the writer made a comment on the Rajput community during one of his/ her anti Jodha rants. This comment was really not needed in that otherwise beautifully written post. So let us not get too carried away and try and stay respectful towards everyone who may be reading these posts. Thanks!

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Cleo,

I do not see why you should feel so hesitant about criticising my posts. I would not mind in the least, for it is your right not to agree with anything or everything I write. I write what I feel, and I am no one's fan.But it is hardly obligatory for you to like everything I write just because you liked some of my posts.

So relax, and feel free not to like them! If you want to tell me why you did not like them, please do. That does not mean either that I would agree with you or that I would change my way of writing. But I am open to being convinced of a different viewpoint if you can manage it.

Shyamala B.Cowsik




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