I do not know how many of you read Vicki's wonderful threads, but on her last mini post, I had argued that Jalal alone should not be asked to apologise for suspecting her of infidelity. She and another young lady wrote back so sweetly and thoughtfully to smooth what they took to be my seriously ruffled feelings that I was really touched.
I wrote back to explain where I was coming from re: both Jodha and Jalal, and why I was very disappointed with her, and to a lesser extent with him as well. I am reproducing my response below for those of you who might find it of some interest as reflecting their own feelings about the show.
Well, my dear young ladies, it is my turn to say sorry for not getting the point that the whole thread was a joke. Please put it down to my aging neurons not being at their best at 1 am😉. And there was not the least need for any of you to apologise for your (humorous) stand either. I am, however, flattered and touched that you felt it necessary to soothe my ruffled feelings so sweetly!
This said, I do begin to feel that there is too much knee-jerk feminine solidarity with Jodha in much of this forum.Now I would not normally object to that, for all things being equal, I would side with the woman, but the problem here is that all things are
not equal.
I wanted a Jodha who would be feisty and intelligent and coolly self-possessed, capable of holding her own against an emperor without being petty or smart alecky or plain rude. One who could face any calamity with fortitude and resourcefulness, instead of weeping like a tap in full flow and lamenting her fate to Moti. I would have cheered myself hoarse for that Jodha as she brought a turbulent, haughty and arrogant Jalal to heel in slow stages.
In her place, for example, I would have pre-empted the latest blow up with Hamida by going to Ammijaan and telling her the whole of my side of the story. Having by now at least some idea of my husband's integrity and his loyalty to his word as given, I would have at least considered the possibility that
both of us might have been deceived. Jalal does that, which is why he consults Salima; why can Jodha not be shown to have the same good sense?
Instead, she goes to Jalal and lectures him on trust. But how much trust can she demand from him when she gives him none at all, and is ready to believe the worst of him at the first opportunity? That line about
vaasna ki poorti ke liye anek saadhan the was very ugly coming from her. Very few normal husbands would have let her hold out indefinitely as Jalal does, and wait for her pleasure. She does not seem to understand or appreciate that at all.
So what we have had here so far is very different from the Jodha I was looking forward to. To my mind we are getting stuck with a typical Ekta female lead, who is always right no matter what she does and how she behaves. Jodha to me now looks much like Archana and Purvi of PR, obsessed with their maternal
parivaars and pushing the men unfortunate enough to have fallen for them relentlessly on the backfoot till they have been reduced to doormats. And this while having the height of the pedestal on which they are perched being steadily raised by the admiring multitudes.
Hamida's outburst of today is an aberration that will be soon reversed, and the cheerleading will be restored in no time, thus ensuring that Jodha learns nothing from this, or from the next disaster which is surely round the corner, and sees no need to do so either.
But why should she, when she is always lauded to the skies for her real and imaginary acts of commission? Have you ever seen Jodha introspecting over anything that she has said or done, and maybe, just maybe, concluding that she was wrong? The Green Jodha-Yellow Jodha scene was the one exception, and that has never been repeated.
The upshot of all this is that I am, increasingly, unable to relate to this Jodha at all. She is a major disappointment: opinionated, obstinate, blinkered, and weak and and weepy to boot. Where is the strong, intelligent, resourceful Diana-cum-Juno that I had wanted?
Coming to Jalal, he is getting to be as much of a let down, but in a different way. I cannot imagine any emperor who would bend so far for any woman as Jalal does, or take so much impertinence and incessant jibes from her while still hanging around her. He is not realistic at all, and I am quite sure the real Jalal was nothing like this.
This Jalal is becoming weaker and more distracted, and more obsessed with Jodha, by the day, whereas she has hardly moved (except for those archaeologists of the serial world who can see her hidden love even in her resurrected ghrina😉).
Jalal seems to be steadily losing all that set him apart from the standard issue male lead in a soap - his imperiousness, his dominance, his self assurance, his ability to conquer his weaknesses, including her, his ability to cut thru the thickets and get to the core of an issue by himself and then move to sort it out logically and forcefully.
Now, instead of proving straightaway that Jodha is not expecting at all, he is going to acknowledge the virtual child as his to salvage her reputation (which will still be as muddied as before, for no one will believe him). In return, he is getting the earful shown in the precap. And the forum comments that his head is bowed because he is in the wrong!
Even after it is all made clear, Jodha will
not apologise for having accused Jalal of marital rape, whereas he will apologise profusely for having doubted her character. This done, she will continue to swan around with Moti as before and he will be hanging around trying to meet her as if by chance.
No way is he going to back off and leave her to herself, which is what he should do even if he wants desperately to have her care for him, for if at all that is to happen, she has to miss him and miss him a lot. How can she miss him and learn to value him when he is eternally available and is making a cake of himself for her daily? She will only get more puffed up in her already huge self esteem, and have only amused contempt for him. Women do not admire men who are too compliant; they look up only to a man who is a man, not a poodle.
By now, I can almost see where this is headed. There is not going to be any epic love story, except in the ghostly exchanges between the roohs of Jodha and Jalal, which I am sure meet at
her maqbara 1 km away from Akbar's at Sikandra, so as to satisfy her ego.😉
See, if they are shown as really falling in love with each other, that will mean the serial will have to be wound up soon thereafter. So that will not happen till near the end, and in the meantime, this sort of periodic upheaval will be repeated
ad nauseum.
Each time, though Jalal would have done all the running and heavy lifting, Jodha will be shown as the moral winner and the
mahaan one, though any rational observer would be hard put to identify anything that she has done for him.
Jalal will be given no credit for anything he does, and even if the
Jodha ne use banaya haiwaan se insaan theme is toned down, it will be always there in the background.
Not an inviting prospect!
I have started watching a new show based on a Saratchandra novel,
Tumhari Pakhi,with a rather interesting hero who is obsessed with his public image, and who is played by Iqbal Khan. I have not seen any of his work before, for I watch very few serials and none to the end so far, but he is not bad at all. I have no intention of commenting on that, but it is a pleasant watch, being set in the most photogenic parts of Rajasthan. As I said, I am beginning to lose interest in Jodha Akbar, at least in commenting on it. At least in
Tumhari Pakhi, the heroine seems like a real person.
I apologise for inflicting this Ramayana on you unsuspecting young people, but I wanted to show you where I was coming from. I expected a lot from Jodha Akbar, and I am getting less and less these days. It is a major let down, for at least with the likes of PR, I did not expect anything at all.
Once again, thank you for being so indulgent towards me!
Affectionately,
Shyamala Di/Aunty
Originally posted by asuknowmeShyamala aunty, I have always been a fan of ur writing and ur unbiased opinion about the characters ... Further to Vicky ... I too apologise if my statement didn't seem right to you ... Nevr meant to hurt anybody's sentiments... As vicky has rightly mentioned ...this whole post had been composed for a humorous coming back of the Ghrina mention ... and ... Yes fault is from both sides ... Jodha and Jallal equally responsible for this misundstding ... and when the time comes even jodha should und jallal s perspective and apologise to him for always having an anti jalllal approach...
Ultimately this whole episode wouldn't have occurred had Hyperwati given proper Birds and Bees education to her Daughter and anatomical changes felt... and a self assessment of being violated or not ...
Originally posted by MoronsKiMallikaArre? Aap aisse gussa kyun ho rahhe ho, Dee? 😲😕...You know that its not about taking sides on JJ because just day before yesterday , i have justified the POVs of both JJ that they are understood where they are coming from. Understanding Jodha does not mean I negate Jalaal - for me both of them are the same - flawed but good people. I get Jodha's POV as a woman but my defence of Jalaal has been equally firm in connection to her and as an individual.
The quoted text is written for Jalaal because we are talking about him. If the discussion extended to Jodha , then, of course, she should apologize - and in this thread itself , i have mentioned that how Jodha may not even apologize in her hurt pride. I don't see Jalaal groveling at Jodha's feet and he shouldn't. In fact, this whole thread is a big joke and there was no serious discussion happening.
From day 1, i have kept JJ on equal scales.And if this one bit of quoted text , dismisses the stance i have put across all along , then i , repeat what i have always maintained - i don't choose JJ over each-other.
And since the composition of your post indicates that you are appalled what i have said, my apologies. That was never my intention.
Originally posted by sashashyam
I am truly amazed at and deeply impressed by this fervid loyalty to Jodha.
Here is a emperor-cum-husband who knows he has not gone anywhere near his wife till now, and she is declared to be an expectant mother.What should he do, order an imperial crib and do her aarti? And prepare to accept what he naturally believes to be another man's child as the heir to his throne? Othello strangled Desdemona, whom he loved and who loved him, totally unlike Jodha Begum, on a similar suspicion and on far less"evidence".
So now Jalal is expected to grovel at her feet for having voiced a perfectly justifiable suspicion, but of course Jodha does not need to apologise for having accused him equally wrongly, of marital rape. What a beautifully fair and balanced arrangement!👏
Shyamala B.Cowsik
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