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Posted: 11 years ago
#61
This is such an interesting read. Thank you for all the hard work.

I am so glad the show is showing Jodha as a strong character. She is truthful, upfront, kind and loyal to people she trust.

I would have hated it if they showed Jodha as a weak character who fell for Jalal as soon as they got married and let him walk all over her.

I like to think the reason Jodha grabbed Jalal's attention was because she challenged him in a way no one else did. She wasn't submissive and he admired her for it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

So some religious fanatics try remove her from the chronicles of the history, but they were unsuccessful . lol, every article i have read some far on JA it has left me to ponder how biased they are after reading through your posts.I think it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out there must have been a huge commotion in the harem when Jodha moved in . Not because she was just Hindu because she was so multitalented , and extremely gorgeous must have cause the fancy of the Emperor.😉😆 Can you please find out for me whether they met before pre wedding or not? I heard it's mentioned in few literary sources. Waiting for your part 3. ...


yes pls .. me too want to know abt this 😳 😃


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: hewa2204

This is such an interesting read. Thank you for all the hard work.


I am so glad the show is showing Jodha as a strong character. She is truthful, upfront, kind and loyal to people she trust.

I would have hated it if they showed Jodha as a weak character who fell for Jalal as soon as they got married and let him walk all over her.
I like to think the reason Jodha grabbed Jalal's attention was because she challenged him in a way no one else did. She wasn't submissive and he admired her for it.


u said it all .thats why i loved jo's character in the show yeah sometimes her behaviour irks me a lot but still i love the way cv's are showing her as a strong character 👏👏 AKBAR was the great .. n everybody knows that 👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: sonilausarun


yes pls .. me too want to know abt this 😳 😃





@soni
and
@clumsy wings

well guys i started my work for educational purpose..to inform you and me as well...!!!
u r trying to put all this into ROMANCE...😆..
well..
anyways, let me tell u, EVEN i am searching...😊 is this true or not..?...?...?
i have partial answer...
but i will not utter a word..
until i have EVIDENCE to back my words...
because the answer to this question is NO or YES..no 3rd answer...
so, wait...
i m sure i ll be able to soon tell...u about this...

as i get more and more access to various articles...books,,,material i ll be able to answer this as well...



For all other members,

i will get back to all ur comments 1 by 1.😊..
a huge thnx aftr all, for reading this..
bcoz i thought der wud b no takers for reading historical posts...

if u have any more questions of ny type...
we all can discuss
post here..

coz after being on this forum for 20 days, 1 have undrstood 1 thng...
u guys have a grt8 creative mind..
for example...the kind of scenes u all ask frm cv's😉...😆..
it's beyond my mind..

after all we have many other history loving members, who have lot of knowledge👍🏼..
i like healthy discussion..and u all too.
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Clumsy_Wings

So some religious fanatics try remove her from the chronicles of the history, but they were unsuccessful . lol, every article i have read some far on JA it has left me to ponder how biased they are after reading through your posts.I think it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out there must have been a huge commotion in the harem when Jodha moved in . Not because she was just Hindu because she was so multitalented , and extremely gorgeous must have cause the fancy of the Emperor.😉😆 Can you please find out for me whether they met before pre wedding or not? I heard it's mentioned in few literary sources. Waiting for your part 3. ...




in red color...

totally agreed👍🏼..


in blue color.
well..
if u remember , in a comment on my part 1 thread, u asked me where i shud read..from.??
and i answered, read from any 'authentic' book of that period, but never ever rely on internet..
i feel now u understand the difference...

in green

even i am shocked..
but it's a FACT..
atleast now i claim it as a FACT.
previously it was a speculation.
now a confirmation.!!

😊
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hi historygeek...thank u so much 4 ds info...u have put a lot of hardwork into this...hatsoff to u for that...I read that harkhabai was younger daughter of bharmal wts her elder sister name?...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: ramyadwarampudi

hi historygeek...thank u so much 4 ds info...u have put a lot of hardwork into this...hatsoff to u for that...I read that harkhabai was younger daughter of bharmal wts her elder sister name?...




hello ..😊..
again, it seems u r victim of "stories on internet ".

well..!!!
on a serious note, she was the eldest daughter.

go thru the comments on this thread...
and also read part 1 and comments.
u will get many doubts cleared..

it's the comments pages where the actual interaction takes place...
so, i wud advice not to leave the comments...pages...

😊..

more ques. welcome..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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plz history geek...dnt stp the good work...it is really interesting...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#69
AGAIN, THIS POST IS IN REFERENCE TO 2 THE PM'S I RECEIVED..😕..
i am forced to write this.😕.



QUESTION.:::
why they show this disclaimer IN THE STARTING OF SHOW if JA existed. IN HISTORY...😕.?..Phew😕.

ANSWER:

Before reading further, those members who have not read my small update about jodha/MUZ on page 16...please do go there and read it..

because the roots of above question is there only..

the link is::page 16 of present thread..
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/jodha-akbar/3809107/akbar-ruqs-false-monogamy-pt2ja-not-fiction-upd-p10-16-18-ruqs34-35-36?pn=16



those who have read it..
carry on..!!

all ur points are totally valid.!!!
but ekta has done a research for 1.5 years..
she has a team of reputed historians...

she knows more than me...
that's why she has started this show...
even after strong adverse reactions...

otherwise there are many historical shows running ryt now
why dont all of them start with a disclaimer...?
AND WHY DON'T ALL OF THEM READ IT ALSO.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??
do u feel all of dem r as per history.???
they r infact many times more off the mark.then truth..compared to JA..

i think u got which show i m talking about..
i dnt wan to create problems for d forum by taking name of any1.😊

infact ek is (i feel) forced to strt with a disclaimer..
and also...to read dat for 30 seconds...!!!!
otherwise have u seen any disclaimer BEING READ in ny historical show before..
i haven't...!!!
take example::
PRC, Mahabharata, MP, and many more..none of them reads the disclaimer..and they just show it for a second!!!!!

and here in JA
that too they read it.for 30 seconds...??
and on top of it, say that their own show is fiction.!!!
(after saying in press conference that, they have done hell lot of research,..!!!)
doesn't this surprises u.??

i want answers from people here for above questions.😲.these are relevant questions which u shud ask urself.😕..and then u will understand better 😲rather i explain it here...

THINK ONCE..
u will get the answer..😊


anyways, if u didn't gt,😕 i xplain..read further..

see the diplomatic stance taken by the show makers to defend their position also...in d disclaimer..

they start with..-->> this show does not guarantee any historicity...
the very next line they say--->>to show "historical events" they have used "convenient methodology.."😆

first, line they try to relax the CRITICS by saying it's NEARLY fiction..!!!😲
second line they say -- it's historical..!!!😆


imagine ekt's plight...
what all she has to do..to run this...all sort of jugaad baazi,,,!!!!
still kudos to her...👏

otherwise, do u feel ny 1,other than ek, had the "strength" / "himmat"of showing jalal with all his wives onscreen...after all this panga..!!
bcoz afterall, in india having many wives...it's NORMALLY seen as a degrading sort of thing..
(apologies i didn't wish to hurt any akbar' s fan...it's only an opinion...)

bcoz bfore this MAJORITY of India thought, of Akbar and jodha..only..
no 1(very less) people knew it to b a forced marriage..(which only later turning to b a eternal story...)...

even in the movie..they didn't have the "dareness" to show all...
and infact, they created the real problem by showing bharmal offering jodha himself!!!!! in marriage...they skipped all truth...and people took it to be truth...(for more read part 1)

they didn't show the amer war with mughal forces..and bharmal's helplessness...even akbar's autobiography, mentions these events in DETAILS..that movie created the real problem...!!😡..how cud they ignore akbar's own autobiography...???


people did not knew that INITIALLY, this was his politics..his cunning side with all that politics of his mind involved...
.which finally changed him only..!!!😆


so instead of bashing ek..
feel pity for her..also..
she may add events...BUT, no 1 can show u it more clarity as shown here...

and yes, i am only trying to verify the facts which she is showing...

do not worry...
she will show...all these events..and more than what i have found...
and even more..
which i cud not find..

BY the way, i tell u...
on d forum, many ppl were making fun of that tuladaan scene and said it to be useless...
well..it's 1 of the facts..!!!!!!!!
it's true...NOT a creation of CV's..
if REquired will tel u sometime..


By the way, many (or, majority) of events, which ppl thought to be a creation of CV's are actually TRUE.!!!!!!
Well, many will never know about them..nyways der is no need for knowing each true incident.
Because, here ders a habit of rejecting twists as a fiction, without thinking for a split second.!!!😆..with ultra-quick analysis..😆(i m just commenting on a lighter note..not targeting anyone..😊)

so, can not wage a lone battle, afterall i cannot make each one believe that "xyz" event is true.!!
there r history lovers here, who must b knowing..
and hence, i have decided to njoy those moments..and will keep quiet..
and u all also njoy them as 'fiction'👍🏼.😆.

just wait and i assure u and all the members, whatever i am writing is not a lie...
and afterall, how can u all think so.!!!😕

m giving references in each post, if there is any doubt u may study yourself.😊..

i have no benefit in glorifying jodha's relation with akbar.
i just want to defend my STAND, what u know and what is TRUTH are poles apart..


And, it will all come before ur eyes on the show itself...
as the show progresses.!!!! plz have patience..
😊

CONCLUSION:

guys sorry, if i hurt ny1's sentiments.
this post is not at all, targeted to any member.
IT WAS A FUN POST.😊
it is just a answer to a few PM's.

so, here i told that::

1. disclaimer is a mystery in itself..with double meaning??...What u all feel.??
2. the movie on JA was 😡not true..atleast the serial is showing something close to reality...Don't u think so..???after so much of brainstorming??...
3. and, CV's do not give u crap., always.😆

(
it's we OR u😆 who ask CV's for this or that. And, if they show u a track u reject it as fiction, as if u know it's really a fiction.😉..
Take for example.till date it's revealed that following were not fiction... 1. tuladan, 2. ruqs miscarriage track(battle and duplicate and other events), 3. many more events,
will post if the forum again runs out of PATIENCE😆, LIKE when i revealed that MISCARRIAGE track..!!!😆
)

Many write in comments that i defend EKTA..!!!😆
Guys, i am only defending my STAND..😕
And, coincidently m on her side..
And, after all u all must admit she has taken the challenge / 'panga' with all these people "___fill the blanks😆____" for this show...
she deserves a applause..👏


i thought it has become now INDISPENSABLE for me to BLAST this DISCLAIMER question, because after answering on page 16 that JA are wrongly portrayed on internet.

i got 2, back 2 back PM's saying,
then why they show this disclaimer if JA existed..😕.?..Phew😕...hope i cleared it for now and for ever..
and u may also refer this page to a person who questions so..
and ask him to answer the questions which i raised above..😊.

GUys, have pity on me also.😕😊
🥱
Please allow me to visit the forum and breathe
🥱 openly😕..😆.

Whatever problem/question/complain u have ..with utmost regard/dignity for all friends, i request u all 2 post here on the forum...

but plz spare my inbox..🥱
u may ask questions but do not overbombard it😊..
more than 10 PM's per log in.!!!!..😆😕😕...
even i exhaust my limit of 20 PM's per day..!!!
i have to delete PM's from my inbox, since the capacity of 200 is full.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

on a lighter note...😆...u may ask as many questions...but try to search answers first in the comments pages..of part1 and part2 thread..since many answers are already in comments pages...

if still u hve questions, post here on the forum...coz here not only me but there are others also present here, who will answer u..😊

and OTHER members may also read the answers to the questions..let all know it..😊


more questions comments welcome..
(for first time visitors, read comments on ALL pages..i bet it will be unforgettable experience for u)
(IF POSSIBLE, do not miss even a single comment page..)


Main topics INDEX on this thread...::

p-11 - Truth of Jodha Akbar Relations from Abul Fazl's accounts.(posted twice in black and RED)
p-13 - conspiracy against MUZ..by some hardcore fanatics
p-10 - Truth about Ruqaiyya Miscarriage
p-16- Jodha - Akbar relations
p-18 - reality of ekta's disclaimer

Do post ur comments.for the 3 questions i have posted IN BLUE COLOR...😊..

and i hope it's clear now...!!!atleast and atlast.!!😕!......that the politics of disclaimer is somewhat digestable...😊
Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70
KUDOS to ur priceless efforts...👍🏼👍🏼
Mindblowing work...i truely appreciate for ur effforts👏👏 u invested ur precious time here & provided us a very knowledgeable information... Really Thanxx a lot buddy🤗
Now i know why we were so misleaded becoz of that biased so called net info & articles... There is The world of difference betn net info & authenticted info...
But we r so lucky & we got to know the true facts abt Jodha-Akbar..
& From ur whole info,i got to know,yess i do agree that Jodha❤️Akbar were the lover & Soulmates & in akbar's life her impact was massive... i truely belive in this luv story... without a true fact no one dare to make a film or serials on them..
We never heared a luvstory of akbar-rukaiyaa,salima-akbar or with any other wife of akbar... simply There was a luv❤️ between Jodha❤️Akbar...
Each & Every facts about Jodha-Akbar are Marvellous...😲
Great job👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼& once again Thanxx a ton🤗🤗
Edited by SoniLuvsRT - 11 years ago

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