Akbar-Ruqs-False Monogamy.Pt2JA Not fiction.Upd-p10,16,18,Ruqs34+35+36

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sonia_1

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Posted: 11 years ago

#91

A big shout out and Kudos 👏👏 to Abhay, Lizzy and Kamal for insightful, detailed information.

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ChupChupKe

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Posted: 11 years ago

#92

Originally posted by: sonia_1
A big shout out and Kudos 👏👏 to Abhay, Lizzy and Kamal for insightful, detailed information.

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ChupChupKe

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Posted: 11 years ago

#93

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012
I JUST FOUND OUT HOW REALLY ADHAM KHAN DIED AND ABOUT HOW MAHAM ANGA 's relationship with jalal's got fractured...this is from ain-i-akbhari..
The murder of two girls in malwa fractured the relationship between the milk-mother and jalal.5 months later,jalal removed Munim KHAN,a confidante of MA and appointed Atga KHAN to that post of Vazir.this curtailed her powers..Adham KHAN was upset after being recalled from Malwa considered atga khan the villain..while jalal was resting in the harem,adham KHAN strode towards the office where he was working and stabbed him with a dagger,and his men started stabbing atga khan too..Atga tried to escape but fell dead in the courtyard and adham khan tried to enter the harem..but an eunuch bolted the harem entry.meanwhile akbhar awoke due to commotion and rushed out to see his murdered foster father.
As he turned and saw adham khan with a bloodied dagger..he called adham khan,"batcha-I--lada" meaning son of a bitch..he slapped adham khan who was mumbling an answer to be bound and thrown down the harem terrace of eight feet..so he was thrown down and hauled and again thrown till his brain was destroyed and neck broken

NEXT PARAGRAPH WHICH WAS BROUGHT TO MY NOTICE IN THE TRANSLATION OF BADUANI's work were the lines on jodha

Akbar' s marriage to the princess of Amer was significant..he allowed the princess to remain a Hindu,maintain a Hindu shrine in the royal palace and he himself participated in the Puja she performed..

NEXT LET ME BRING TO YOUR NOTICE THE STATUS OF AMER 'S princes In the mughal sultanate as stated by ABU FAZL

Of the twenty seven rajputs in his majesty' s list OF MANSUBDARS,Thirteen were of the Amer clan,some rose to positions nearly as high as those of imperial princes..Raja bhaghwan das bore the title of Amir-ul-Umara(chief among nobles) and his son man Singh rose even higher earning immense wealth and power..

AKBARNAMA GIVES US INFORMATION ON REVOLTS AND REBELLION IN AKBAR' S Reign
There were 144 such incidents,half of it due to his religious policies and the acceptance of Hinduism in his close circle .the major revolt was instigated in 1571 by a group of mullahs..they proclaimed Muhammad Hakim,AKBAR' s brother as emperor and read kuthbah in his name..the first time it was crushed but the second time,M.hakim invaded in 1580..he was given to believe that there would be a general uprising of Muslims in India in his favour but none did..

LAST BUT THE LEAST-about MA's role in miscarriages in the harem
.Abu FAZL does not directly say it is MAHAM ANGA who was responsible for miscarriages in the harem but states that" His majesty who gave the lady a mother's status was really broken about her role in him remaining childless..

ABHAY,really good going..keep digging to give us more ..👏

wow... so much infos 👏 u guys r brilliant 😃👍🏼

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ChupChupKe

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Posted: 11 years ago

#94

Originally posted by: history_geek

thnx..😊

but do not call me abhay 'jee '..
m of same age as u..
name''s fyn..

ohhh okey 😃 🤗

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crazy4pari

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Posted: 11 years ago

#95

Originally posted by: history_geek
as far as i know..

i have gone thru 2 books of same author..
and yes he says harka to be younger daughter of bharmal..
but except that , till date i/all have read only that she was eldest..
and yes that's a accepted fact..
their is some error..there..
though he is a reputed author..

i will try to get to depth of this..
bt accepted norm(reality) is, harka to be eldest.
😊
thank u😊

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#96

REALITY CHECK...
hira was salim's mother.?sure??.

Start thinking...read on.----->>>>>

@ramyadwarampudi

finally i have ur answer..

hi..😊...
wud lyk 2 add more, 2 ur question's answer..
so here's the answer again...
UR question again is leading to another REVELATION...

a big thnx for this question...

ur doubt is valid..
even i read that book,u mentioned, and another buk by the same author..

the author mentioned that harka was younger daughter of bharmal and bharmal "offered"😡 his elder daughter to some "xyz" muslim ruler..(v don't need the name.)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i was surprised...
so it is not unusual for u to get surprised..!!!
AFTERALL, each and every TRUTH about harka bai is a surprise in itself..
so clarifying ur doubt now..

here again its a hidden conspiracy.::
Read on...

What can the author do if "EVEN" the archives are corrupted...

Not believed ..?? Then keep reading...

take 2 evidences for it.. then the reason later..:
(u discovered 1 anomaly, i have discovered many..will discuss later sometime if time permits..)

1. they say salim was born in LAHORE.!!!!!🤣...
( as if v all r fools and do not know where he was born.!!!!..), in fatehpur sikri, (read part 1 post for more..)

2. also, that hira was younger daughter..!!!of bharmal...
(again they think v all r fools 2 believe them...😆)

(
this point is not mentioned in mughal literature, but in text by some other "h_r_c_r_ fanatics" . of those times.i do not have the book's name...but they say that "eldest" daughter of bharmal was .married to a pathan(i do not want to discuss more about this..neither u guys ..and..actually i do not want to degrade hira's status.by saying more on this...) again see the catch, they do not mention the name of eldest daughter of bharmal there, but say that she was married to a pathan...

moral:::what they wanted??
they do not mention her name also...means hide her name in history.!!!!..
and write that "she" (eldest daughter) was married to a pathan.!!!!

c how sharp their mind was.!!😲
)

2 questions arise .:::

1. who did it..???😲
answer.______________________u all know...

2. why they did it..?????😲
answer.______________________u all know...

but let me xplain...this one..

ok...i tell u...point by point...

to prove that salim was not hira's son..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to prove no 1 existed by name of hira..!!ever.!
(again u know it was done to confuse him to be her son.)
but it was a total disaster...
they were not successful.
why.???
they cud not change the entire archives..!!😆
actually mughals had libraries at many places---agra, delhi, lahore, etc...

they altered lahore archives.(not totally sure..but...99% it was lahore only..as i have dug up till now from ASi )...

poor chaps.😭..their plan failed.!since they cud not change other accounts..!!!

c the extent of their desperation...!!!!

For this explanation i do not have the refernces also..
only some oral talking with asi people..
So, u r free to accept this reason...or reject ..!!!

afterall, this is not a major update..
u all know, hira was married to akbar only..

i was just clearing the doubt of 1 member..
i wrote in detail, beacuse after reading for first time i was also very confused..
hope ur doubt z gone ...

do tell.???

u know the GHOST of anarkali and salim...
again its a creation...seems to be created by same people...

Originally posted by: ramyadwarampudi

Edited by history_geek - 11 years ago

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philantus01

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Posted: 11 years ago

#97

amazing post ...

u may b right dat rukaiyah was nt his love

but it doesnt prove dat jodha was his love interest

as he was d one who married to jodha just for political reasons as he wanted surety from rajputs

...n she was nt d last person wid whom he gt married

afta marriage wid jodha he married many women

so i m still confused wid d love part...

n its true dat jalal had to wait a long for his heir...may b i m wrong but as far as i feel she was given importance coz she was d one who gav birth to his heir...

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Abhay

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Posted: 11 years ago

#98

hi..😊

i consider u as 1 of the best members here...(m serious)..
coz u never believe in any(or most of things easily..!!)😊..until u gt everything clearly...
well...
ur 1 question on my part1 post, prompted me to give a detailed part 2 post to prove how akbar's words are misinterpreted..about ruqaiyya...
and again, i tell u..
i will SURELY put up another post (no matter how late..)..
for all the questions u have raised(highlighted in black bold)...
though ryt now i hv points..to prove it..
but will give u references also...so it will b late...

"may b i m wrong but as far as i feel she was given importance coz she was d one who gav birth to his heir..."

so, this is ur problem for not digesting jodha as akbar's mate.!!!!
ok , next or next to next post on this only.!!!!!!
to dispel ur doubt...!!!

on a lighter note😆, 1 thing i tell u..
i have no point in gloryfying akbar's relation with harka bai.
i am not der agent..😆..
but, i m only trying to prove what u know and what is truth is poles apart..
so i m sharing all dis..
😊

but aftrall, it's up to u , that despite countless facts being provided, if someone again feels in another manner, it's fine.
i can only quote instances.and.facts...😊

thnx for raising the point...again.!!!!!
😊...

Originally posted by: 1234philli23
amazing post ...
u may b right dat rukaiyah was nt his love

but it doesnt prove dat jodha was his love interest

as he was d one who married to jodha just for political reasons as he wanted surety from rajputs

...n she was nt d last person wid whom he gt married

afta marriage wid jodha he married many women

so i m still confused wid d love part...

n its true dat jalal had to wait a long for his heir...may b i m wrong but as far as i feel she was given importance coz she was d one who gav birth to his heir...