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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: riyya6

Hey I just wanted to ask u the same after seeing u here... 😊 Yes i remember you ... 😊... I'm good, how are you ? You are following JA 2, 😳


yeah riyya..you know me to be a history buff and to top it ,romance is another attraction..couldn't resist this combo offered to me😳..I am doing fine..have been reading some comments about a 9 year old who has been let in to this forum😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: skanda12

Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆



The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.

Oh OK! I had a feeling yesterday that we had not seen the end of this clerics protest at all! And as you say they are easy fodder for someone like Sharif to instigate, and the less power they have the more they get miffed and ready to do "bhagawat".
And so you are a Palghati? I'm a Tanjore! Now we have an eternal contest as to who is cleverer than whom, so we both are the runners for our teams?🤣

ayyio..we all have the same ancestry .why squabble about our superior intelligence?😃
sivanum vishnuvum onnu,ariyathavan vayilla mannu..😃 .
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆



The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.
Wow...so much knowledge you guys have got,that was an interesting read!!
Great to meet fellow TamBrams!!! We belong to Palakkad too!😛

Thanks baubles..and namaskkaram to a fellow palghatian..😃once you are passionate about something you do it in full measure,if interested I will continue giving small titbits which would make the episodes interesting
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Lizzy:
You should continue to give us tidbits on historical angles. Its awesome. And I really glad this Ekta is taking care of most fo the facts properly, even if now and then some license is taken on the "soapiness"😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012


yeah riyya..you know me to be a history buff and to top it ,romance is another attraction..couldn't resist this combo offered to me😳..I am doing fine..have been reading some comments about a 9 year old who has been let in to this forum😛

yeah 9 year old 😳 Hey would really like to read ur post (if any) ... I'm fan of ur post in ipk forum...😳
This JA forum is kind of blessed with 9 year old girln& brilliant writers as well 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012


Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆




The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.
Wow...so much knowledge you guys have got,that was an interesting read!!
Great to meet fellow TamBrams!!! We belong to Palakkad too!😛

Thanks baubles..and namaskkaram to a fellow palghatian..😃once you are passionate about something you do it in full measure,if interested I will continue giving small titbits which would make the episodes interesting
👏 hey that would be great... Will be looking forward... Seems like I have to stalk this thread even more often now 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

yeah 9 year old 😳 Hey would really like to read ur post (if any) ... I'm fan of ur post in ipk forum...😳

This JA forum is kind of blessed with 9 year old girln& brilliant writers as well 😉

I can't believe I was a hugeee IPK fan who visited the forum almost everyday then and yet I don't remember a single person from there and I see so many IPK people here!!! The only conclusion I can come to is that I probably never saw the names of the people who made the posts there😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: baubles


Hey and call me Soumya😛
Edited by baubles - 11 years ago

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: baubles

I can't believe I was a hugeee IPK fan who visited the forum almost everyday then and yet I don't remember a single person from there and I see so many IPK people here!!! The only conclusion I can come to is that I probably never saw the names of the people who made the posts there😆

That ipk forum was super express 😆 ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: riyya6

Nice name Soumya 😊

Thanks Riyya!!😃 I guess you are the first person I knew on this forum from when I used to not even comment here...you were quite famous as the only 9 year old😆

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