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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think Jalal is going to feel what he is asking Ruku to feel...He is going to feel intesly jealous that Jo loves some one else...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: elasingh

I think Jalal is going to feel what he is asking Ruku to feel...He is going to feel intesly jealous that Jo loves some one else...

Yes that will terrific to watch because his true feelings will come to the surface, na? Now we are all trying to guess how much he feels, but when he gets jealous we will know for sure where he stands!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#63
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Badauni and abu Fazl were the chroniclers of abkar's life history..In his chronicles Badauni writes about akbar's tolerances for religious principles and contempt for their claim of individual superiorities..he writes"A faith of a materialistic character became painted in his imagination and store of his imagination.. that there are wise men to be found and ready at hand in all religions,men of asceticism,and recipients of revelation and workers of miracles among all nations and that truth is an inhabitant of every place:and that consequently how it could be right to be confined to one religion or creed..especially to one which has its appearance recently and not as yet endured a thousand years!and why assert one thing and deny another and claim pre-eminence for one which is not "
but how was this tolerance planted in akbar??this is clearly stated by badauni as resultant effect of his marriage with the daughter of Raja Bharmal,Mariam Uz zamani..I wrote this to show that Akbar was influenced by jodha on the very aspect she was passionate about- her religion and her tolerance for other religions..so the premise of the religious intolerance combated by akbar is shown well on the show albeit a little over dramatised as it is a soap..

coming to the show,I think the payal loop has still not been closed ..there will still be some poignant romance that will come out of " payal thievery"..yesterday the dialogue of Jalal about "Nazar ka pher" that he took the payal that was lying on the ground and didn't steal has become firmly entrenched in jodha's mind..combined with the understanding of his dealing with the maulvis-she has come to the conclusion about the fairness in his dealings even though his approach is crooked sometimes..I loved this as it firmly put them on the next step to a healthy marital relationship..

manasi..are you a tamilian?just asked out of curiosity as I am one..My name is sangeetha..
Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆



The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.
Edited by Lizzy2012 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#64

riyya .how are you??remember me from the IPK forum😊
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Posted: 11 years ago
#65

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

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Badauni and abu Fazl were the chroniclers of abkar's life history..In his chronicles Badauni writes about akbar's tolerances for religious principles and contempt for their claim of individual superiorities..he writes"A faith of a materialistic character became painted in his imagination and store of his imagination.. that there are wise men to be found and ready at hand in all religions,men of asceticism,and recipients of revelation and workers of miracles among all nations and that truth is an inhabitant of every place:and that consequently how it could be right to be confined to one religion or creed..especially to one which has its appearance recently and not as yet endured a thousand years!and why assert one thing and deny another and claim pre-eminence for one which is not "
but how was this tolerance planted in akbar??this is clearly stated by badauni as resultant effect of his marriage with the daughter of Raja Bharmal,Mariam Uz zamani..I wrote this to show that Akbar was influenced by jodha on the very aspect she was passionate about- her religion and her tolerance for other religions..so the premise of the religious intolerance combated by akbar is shown well on the show albeit a little over dramatised as it is a soap..

coming to the show,I think the payal loop has still not been closed ..there will still be some poignant romance that will come out of " payal thievery"..yesterday the dialogue of Jalal about "Nazar ka pher" that he took the payal that was lying on the ground and didn't steal has become firmly entrenched in jodha's mind..combined with the understanding of his dealing with the maulvis-she has come to the conclusion about the fairness in his dealings even though his approach is crooked sometimes..I loved this as it firmly put them on the next step to a healthy marital relationship..

manasi..are you a tamilian?just asked out of curiosity as I am one..My name is sangeetha..

Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆



The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.
Oh OK! I had a feeling yesterday that we had not seen the end of this clerics protest at all! And as you say they are easy fodder for someone like Sharif to instigate, and the less power they have the more they get miffed and ready to do "bhagawat".
And so you are a Palghati? I'm a Tanjore! Now we have an eternal contest as to who is cleverer than whom, so we both are the runners for our teams?🤣
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Posted: 11 years ago
#66

Originally posted by: Lizzy2012


riyya .how are you??remember me from the IPK forum😊

Hey I just wanted to ask u the same after seeing u here... 😊 Yes i remember you ... 😊... I'm good, how are you ? You are following JA 2, 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Riyya, yeh ungli mat dikhao. mein umar mein badi hoon, na? Zara buzurghon ko maano!😆😆😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: skanda12

Riyya, yeh ungli mat dikhao. mein umar mein badi hoon, na? Zara buzurghon ko maano!😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lizzy2012

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Badauni and abu Fazl were the chroniclers of abkar's life history..In his chronicles Badauni writes about akbar's tolerances for religious principles and contempt for their claim of individual superiorities..he writes"A faith of a materialistic character became painted in his imagination and store of his imagination.. that there are wise men to be found and ready at hand in all religions,men of asceticism,and recipients of revelation and workers of miracles among all nations and that truth is an inhabitant of every place:and that consequently how it could be right to be confined to one religion or creed..especially to one which has its appearance recently and not as yet endured a thousand years!and why assert one thing and deny another and claim pre-eminence for one which is not "
but how was this tolerance planted in akbar??this is clearly stated by badauni as resultant effect of his marriage with the daughter of Raja Bharmal,Mariam Uz zamani..I wrote this to show that Akbar was influenced by jodha on the very aspect she was passionate about- her religion and her tolerance for other religions..so the premise of the religious intolerance combated by akbar is shown well on the show albeit a little over dramatised as it is a soap..

coming to the show,I think the payal loop has still not been closed ..there will still be some poignant romance that will come out of " payal thievery"..yesterday the dialogue of Jalal about "Nazar ka pher" that he took the payal that was lying on the ground and didn't steal has become firmly entrenched in jodha's mind..combined with the understanding of his dealing with the maulvis-she has come to the conclusion about the fairness in his dealings even though his approach is crooked sometimes..I loved this as it firmly put them on the next step to a healthy marital relationship..

manasi..are you a tamilian?just asked out of curiosity as I am one..My name is sangeetha..

Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆



The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.
Wow...so much knowledge you guys have got,that was an interesting read!!
Great to meet fellow TamBrams!!! We belong to Palakkad too!😛
Edited by baubles - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#70

Originally posted by: baubles

Okay this is brilliant! So Jalal's opinions on religion and tolerance are ascribed to his marriage with Jodha and the influence of her thinking on his. That could explain why the Creatives are making Jodha verbalise so much her perspective on religion and her liking to read about all religions etc. Its not just her talkativeness, its the expression of an opinion that helps shape the opinions of Akbar, hence the speeches from Jodha!
Just one other question: Did this banishment of the clerics yesterday actually end this issue or did it continue to fester till he much later started this religion called Deen-Ilahi? I am just wondering if he really managed to quell this issue or like Henry the Eighth he too had to think of an alternate religion as a solution to the continuing Muslim-Hindu tension that stayed festering?
And yes, I am a Tamilian ... a TamBram!😆😆😆




The banishment of clerics didn't quell this.shariiuddin became the power centre from where these dissents continued..Initially, sharifuddin conducted this nefarious activity behind the veil ,later it was all out war..Akbar pardoned sharifuddin three times for his revolt against throne to appease his step-sister Bakshi Bano who was the daughter of Haji begum (humayun's first wife)..Din-i-illahi was not basically a religion for the masses but for the courtiers who had to live with multitudes of religions at court..he didn't discourage common people from coming in to its fold but this was mainly aimed at the court..the introduction of din-i-illahi also brought in with it a slew of protests..Khutbah-the declaration on the pulpit of the mosque which makes a person , an emperor is usually read by the clerics..it is read every year on the Id-ul-Zuha day thereafter..akbar introduced the new religion(though he was careful not to call it a religion) on the pulpit of fatehpur sikri reading the kutbah himself and ending it with Allah-uh-Akbar..This gave the clerics the implication that akbar was proclaiming himself to be god..Though akbar brought nearly the entire subcontinent under the mughal umbrella ,his reign was also famous for the frequent dissent of the clerics..

A TamBram, manasi😊...me too the same but with a slight difference belonging to palghat branch.
Wow...so much knowledge you guys have got,that was an interesting read!!
Great to meet fellow TamBrams!!! We belong to Palakkad too!😛
Oh my God, we Tanjores are outnumbered!!!!!????😲

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