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Posted: 11 years ago
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payal payal payal payal payal YES!!
OH I'm so happy to see the payal! Everything else just pales when I think of the payal. I would have preferred to see Jodha catching Jalal with it, or finding it and then questioning him, but this way was ok too! It gives me hope that maybe SOMEDAY we will get Mohan flashbacks

You mentioned something about impending doom. This is all the calm before the storm. Something is going to happen and it'll be either Sharif's or Ruq's orchestration. I feel like there is chaos inside Ruq's head, and I think that will spill over. On the other hand, Jodha has played her cards too early with Sharifuddin and will have to deal with the consequences. I'm honestly okay with whatever happens in the future track, as long as it reflects character progression.

Jodha's view of Jalal has changed significantly (a little too quickly, I think). She has had it hammered into her brain that he is a man of his word. She also KNOWS for a fact that the Sharif/Adham dream team are trying to create trouble to separate JJ, so I'm hoping she'll keep this in mind when trouble arises.

Random Prediction: I think Sharif will eventually try to eliminate Jodha altogether, after numerous attempts to get her out of Agra. This will lay out some kind of Jodha-in-danger track, where Jalal will have to save her, in the way that she saved him during Mohan track. This would be a good way to close Mohan, and it could eliminate Sharif for good. Of course, this will be much later in the story.

Great post! 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lashy

If that's the case then I know Ekta too well for my own good😆
and looks like now I know you quite well too...😆


😆😆

since we both are awake let me ask you something ...i am reading all dreaded posts that halal is playing some game with jodha ,,,either way it is hai hai jalal going on😆...

and i disagree to it given he was an Emperor who kept his word ,was fair and sincere..so i do not see him playing games with one of his officially wedded wife...not half marriage or girlfriend whom he shall dump...he respects his beghums way too much to even go that way...he was always fair to her even when he married her and in his hatred...other than MC track he has never done anything to make us protest

and the latest sweet Jalal is on his way to ishq wala love but he himself does not know that..all he knows that he wants jodha to worry about him ,care for him and when she did it yesterday he was over the moon ,,before that he would keep on annoying her coz he loved seeing her irritated😆..he never led her to believe anything remotely close to ishq wala love..instead she got trapped in his games and ended up with his head,back,neck massage and lep ki dukaan

he loves flirting with her and he still does it ...that aarti scene,sword scene ..all was him flirting and even today payal scene ...and he genuinely cares for her ..we have seen that and we realise it is nearly love but he does not

and another thing that Najma lady in parliament will raise another hue and cry if the Emperor of india was playing love game with his jodha 😆

so i have no doubts on Jalal's sincerity...

now why is he doing what he is doing with ruqaiyya ...i have little idea..all i see from him is amused leg pulling ..he knows her way too long and enjoys teasing her ..he did the same after that sword fight and also when smiley was rukku that first jallu BT scene ...now if she tells him yes she is jealous who kaun sa pahad ukhadega that i dunno😆..he may just maaro another line on beghumoo ki fitrat and walk away...

so in all i see no love games and with the new spoiler floating ..i now wish it was a love game😆...how will jodha ever come out from her character butchering in Agra accused of affair is what i wonder...who knows the climax maybe she will try to do a jauhar...no rajput woman will tolerate such accusation especially in that era and if it is her hubby toh

in all this darkness i wish to see jodha finally take a bathe...atleast for the aan .baan,shaan of her bapusa,maasa and Amer ka paanisa 😆
Edited by sun29 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: preet_pal320

payal payal payal payal payal YES!!

OH I'm so happy to see the payal! Everything else just pales when I think of the payal. I would have preferred to see Jodha catching Jalal with it, or finding it and then questioning him, but this way was ok too! It gives me hope that maybe SOMEDAY we will get Mohan flashbacks
Tell me about it!

You mentioned something about impending doom. This is all the calm before the storm. Something is going to happen and it'll be either Sharif's or Ruq's orchestration. I feel like there is chaos inside Ruq's head, and I think that will spill over. On the other hand, Jodha has played her cards too early with Sharifuddin and will have to deal with the consequences. I'm honestly okay with whatever happens in the future track, as long as it reflects character progression.
But, that's the problem...CVs seem to see-saw with the characters - not a steady graph...also, as a viewer - I'd like for the civil track to at least continue for a few weeks before we're again barraged with negativity

Jodha's view of Jalal has changed significantly (a little too quickly, I think). She has had it hammered into her brain that he is a man of his word. She also KNOWS for a fact that the Sharif/Adham dream team are trying to create trouble to separate JJ, so I'm hoping she'll keep this in mind when trouble arises.

Random Prediction: I think Sharif will eventually try to eliminate Jodha altogether, after numerous attempts to get her out of Agra. This will lay out some kind of Jodha-in-danger track, where Jalal will have to save her, in the way that she saved him during Mohan track. This would be a good way to close Mohan, and it could eliminate Sharif for good. Of course, this will be much later in the story.
beautiful analysis preet...You're very positive...I'm not able to be so..though that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy today's episode...its just that I don't want this false pregnancy track!

Also, the payal was a very pleasant surprise...I'd prefer having no hopes with mohan though - that way if they did bring it up - it'd make us all happy...

About shareef-jo-ruqs-Jalal we'll have to wait to see how it goes...the story can be taken ten ways...as long as the scenes are justified, ja jo are in character and there's no regression I'm ok..
yet, I'd have liked for a slightly longer spell of positivity between them...
thanks dear...😳
Great post! 😳


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun29


😆😆
Looks like I missed you...anyway, if you're in payal la la land for now...I'll answer and you check it tomorrow

so i have no doubts on Jalal's sincerity...

I don't have any doubt he's sincere with Jo

now why is he doing what he is doing with ruqaiyya ...i have little idea..all i see from him is amused leg pulling ..he knows her way too long and enjoys teasing her ..he did the same after that sword fight and also when smiley was rukku that first jallu BT scene ...now if she tells him yes she is jealous who kaun sa pahad ukhadega that i dunno😆..he may just maaro another line on beghumoo ki fitrat and walk away...

As you've brought forth, he's been like that with her always - the only time he hasn't been with her that way was during the MC track...he's a sadistic casanova 🤣proper bad boy!

so in all i see no love games and with the new spoiler floating ..i now wish it was a love game😆...how will jodha ever come out from her character butchering in Agra accused of affair is what i wonder...who knows the climax maybe she will try to do a jauhar...no rajput woman will tolerate such accusation especially in that era and if it is her hubby toh
For a second I too wished it was love game..but, pondering on it I realized both speculations are not nice...if he was playing with her Jo's trust is shattered and she'll take months to believe him - thus, torturing us viewers along with Kanha, Mothi and Jalal with her lectures. Plus, I have enough problems deciphering Jalal's smiles as it is- the love game will only make it even worse - imagine trying to read between every smile of his. Besides, look at it this way - for the sake of love game he gambled his life during Mohan??? (which had our Dr. Jodha hadn't made a lep, he might well have been Late Jalal by now!) For the sake of love game, he was ready to step down from throne? This makes NO sense!😕😕

In the other idea you spoke about i.e. ruqs/shareef plot, Jodha is going to be tortured, kalankith-ed etc etc...like the MC track...however, in this track Jodha will still have slightly lesser reason to be angry with Jalal because when the truth comes out (that she's not pregnant) she'll only have to be angry with him for mistrusting her, not cheating her! So, the storm will blow over somewhat quicker than the previous one...ayoo in the previous scenario, it'll have to start all over from Jalal realizing love and THEN wooing her all over again. No! This is definitely the lesser of the two evils...😆

in all this darkness i wish to see jodha finally take a bathe...atleast for the aan .baan,shaan of her bapusa,maasa and Amer ka paanisa 😆
What has he kalank got to do with a BT scene sunny..tum bhi na kamaal karti ho😆

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I know what you mean about the character see-sawing. That's what I meant when I said Jodha has very suddenly accepted Jalal in a positive light. I would have preferred that to happen gradually, not in 1 or 2 episodes. It's definitely an issue that needs to be worked on.
I don't know if I'm being positive; I just think that things could be way worse. I've seen some horrible tracks in the 16 years I've been watching Indian serials. JA, with all of its faults, remains to be the best I've seen.

But this reminds me of something I've learned recently in my supply chain management class. Companies with mass production usually hold large amounts of inventory. This gives the company a sense of security; so even if some units are faulty, it's not a big deal. On the other hand, companies that specialize in customization have small levels of inventory, and therefore work very hard to make sure there are no faults in any unit. I feel like, for me, JA started off as the latter, working hard to satisfy the viewers, and my only fear is that under the security of high ratings, the show will begin to go downhill due to a reckless attitude towards quality. I don't want it to turn into a mass-produced generic serial.

I try not to focus on these "big picture" fears, but just enjoy the current scenes. I also have quite a collection of episodes sitting in my DVR so whenever bad news comes a knockin', I watch my favorite scenes and reignite my love for the show.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Wow preet...
Even I wanted a slow steady story...however, here its either too quick or non-present!

As for the other bit - now that's been my worry too..quality compromised for quantity (Trps) and this latest news seems to be an attestation to that
If it leads to something like the MC track then I'd be doubly sure since the episode that Jalal brought his sword on her neck was the one that had hightest TRPs...

I still think that its the extremely multi-layered-unpredictable-assertive-sexy protagonist in Jalal that's keeping audiences glued.
Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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True, I would watch JA forever, just for Jalal. But that's not how it should be, I want to be reeled in by the story, not just the mysteriously sexy Jalal.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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what a lovely post..had a great time reading your views..=)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi Lashy, loved your post and your title even more. It was so reflective of Jodha Beghum's evolving emotions. Such a proprietary air she is developing lately. How proud is she of her Shanshah.I loved the hidden and open smiles of Moti bai. I must admit to be smiling with her. The look of realization on Jodha's face when Jalaal said he still had her payal with him was beautifully done.
I am a bit confused as to why Jalaal is speaking to Ruq the way he it. Yesterday I though it might be his wanting her to act like a wife. Today I felt he was a bit irritated.
I agree with your comments about editing and flow.
I also do not want the backslide of fake pregnancy rumours. But who knows maybe it will be done in a way that we will enjoy. The romance is sweet now, maybe this will lead to passion and jealousy. We have not seen a jealous Jalaal yet. Jodha will be feeling bad for doubting him again and it may overall strengthen the relationship. It may also lead to shifting of the other relationships if someone close to Jalaal has planned all this.
Edited by peachesandcream - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hi lashy, very happy to read your post!
While I liked today better than yesterday, I'm still not blown away. Everything that I say I'm sure I will be in the 0.000004% minority. So take it with a pinch of salt :)

I was relieved that Jalal finally went to see Ruqs. I watch only for the character of Jalal and I enjoy watching his complex relationship with Ruqs and in my opinion she her love for him is dark, selfish, possessive and volatile. Nonetheless it is love and it is loyal. So I would hate to see Jalal gloss over that so easily. I like Jalal to be considerate of everyone. I was hoping that we would some day get a monologue from him about how even if wants to he cant see Ruqs as anything more than loyal companion. Anyway that wont happen but I dont get why Jalal is testing her so much. Is he torn between two women that he cant compartmentalize? He is going to unleash the beast in her. Anyway I digress.

I really like the payal scene. Far more than yesterdays dinner and park date because today the scene had mischief and I'm interested to see what will happen when Jo goes to get her old payal back. He is making her walk towards him and she doesnt even notice what he is doing. He is not going to touch her till she gives the go ahead and he is leading the way for that to happen and she doesnt realize. It was nice to see his sly mind working :)

Finally, the best part was the return of the sly emperor. It was nice to see him get the upper hand over the maulvis. How I wish they had pointed towards Shareef as their partner in crime.

As for the precap, all I can say is that Jo suffers from verbal diarrhea. I felt like I was watching a cat fight between two soutens. Its expected of R but I wish Jo had maintained a dignified silence (like Salima does always) . IMO that would have riled R way more than her arguing because then both Ja and Jo would have refused to divulge details. It would have also starkly displayed the difference in character between Jo and R. Anyway that might just happen, lets see :)



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