The story is breaking into three strands - Page 6

Originally posted by: riyya6

10q buddy😊... I dun celebrate Diwali actually same like Alakh 😊...

Is ur daughter 9 years old 😊... 🤗

Originally posted by: skanda12

My daughter is eight and a half! Slightly smaller than you but with little more "knowledge"!😆

oh little more knowledge 😆... Happy Diwali to ur daughter 2 from me 😳🤗...

Yes we know that Riyya. We look at you everyday & think the same. 🤣

Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

Yes we know that Riyya. We look at you everyday & think the same. 🤣

oh really 😆... 😳🤗

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Originally posted by: Mallika-E-Bhais

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Happy Diwali Riyya!! Have a blast! Literally!! 😃

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Happy Diwali to you 2 😳🤗... Dun worry 9 year old kid have blast literally ... 😆...

well.. nice analysis mansi.. and a very very Happy diwali to you and your daughte 🤗r (I got to know first that you have a daughter..!!!,,(it comes really as a surprise that so in diwali 😊)..

Originally posted by: riyya6

Happy Diwali to you 2 😳🤗... Dun worry 9 year old kid have blast literally ... 😆...

Originally posted by: pallavi003

well.. nice analysis mansi.. and a very very Happy diwali to you and your daughte 🤗r (I got to know first that you have a daughter..!!!,,(it comes really as a surprise that so in diwali 😊)..

I kinda liked maham y'day. her loyalty spoke y'day. As shreya mentioned, her hidden desire of having a son like Jalal surfaced yesterday as well as her disgust over her own son, but's it's maternal affection that pushes her to the edge to do everything whether it's good or bad for Jalal..

Originally posted by: skanda12

Friends, a lot of us (me included) were anticipating that in this Friday episode of this Jodha Akbar saga, there would be more revealed on what exactly transpired between Jodha and Jalal that previous night, when she was "body-warmed" and thus saved by Jalal. I personally thought yesterday's episode would begin from where the previous one left off - with Jalal pondering about what actions he would take, and then showing us how he took those actions, so that there would be no suspense in our minds (even if Jodha, in her unconsciousnessness, may not have known what exactly happened!)

But the story took a very interesting turn yesterday in that three separate strands of the story started becoming visible as threads along which life at Agra may now move. All three of these strands may become the focus of the story next week.

The first of these strands seemed to focus on the continuation of the "blood warming" mystery in Jodha's mind. The second strand that was opened up was the religious backlash to Jalal's mandir visit and bowing before Kali, and the new pressure on Jodha to convert to Islam. And the third and most interesting new strand of the story being opened up was the "redeeming of Mahamanga" as whiter than before - even as her son was being portrayed as growing blacker than before ... and in the new fallout between mother and son, the seeds of Adham's death (or banishment) seems to be beginning to be introduced!

To explain these three strands of the story that I see now emerging, here are my more detailed takes:

Continuing the mystery of "that night" in Jodha's mind

When the episode opened we were treated to a scene of a fully dressed Jalal now rubbing Jodha's hands to keep them warm, even as she stirred from her sleep to see what he was doing. She seemed still in a haze as to the previous night's events, and to clear her fuzziness, she asked Jalal how she got to the bed from the forest area where she had lost consciousness. He said he had brought her in, but he was revealing so less that Jodha had to turn to Moti to ask again what happened in that night that had just gone by.

Moti, it seemed was starting to speak facetiously at first saying "Oh, why would I know what happened between you husband and wife, ..." but before Moti could get more serious and clarify, Maham barged in with a gift and the information that Jalal may have "taken" Jodha and in that lay her imminent loss of interest for Jalal. Moti looked on in dismay at this Maham version being given to Jodha, but again Moti criticallly failed to clarify the issue further to Jodha ... while Jodha seemed ready to run to Jalal for explanations.

Then followed a series of cross-purpose dialogues, where to Jodha's questions about whether Jalal had "done the unbearable" that night, Jalal answered saying: "Yes I did it under medical orders, and I had to do it to save your life" ... all the while leaving Jodha with the impression that the worst had been done. It occurred to neither of them to stop and clarify exactly what that "it" was ... so Jodha was left to nurse a sense of betrayal, while Jalal was clueless as to her misinterpretations.

Throughout the journey back to Agra, Jodha was shown in a state of doubt about how far Jalal had gone with her, what had happened exactly, and where she now stood regarding his promises not to have physical relations with her. Her own recollections were very hazy. But the important thing for me, in this continuing suspense, was that she had doubts not just about "what happened" but about "whether something happened"! That suggests to me that Jodha was not fully swallowing the Maham story either, but had no way to refute it.

Doubtless, in the coming week Jodha will know the truth - and I have a theory about how she may find that out, which is in this next section ...

How will Jalal handle the religious gunah issue

When Ruq's paigam failed to reach Jalal and his entourage arrivved at the Agra palace, a surprise of a nasty kind awaited him. The entire battalion of maulvis and other religious clerics were gathered to prevent Jalal from entering the palace, because he had committed the grave anti-Islamic gunah of going to a mandir in Amer with Jodha and then bowing his head before Kali. The clerics were vehement that he had lost his right as a loyal Muslim to retain the throne. This was exactly what Maham too had feared would happen, but from the surreptitious looks her son was giving, it became clear that it was he who had tipped off the clerics about Jalal's mandir visit and set up this confrontation, so that he could grab power from Jalal by dethroning him on "religious gunah" grounds.

Hamida made an impassioned plea emphasizing Jalal's ancestors as Islamic loyalists and saying Jalal followed in their footsteps with full belief. But the woman of the hour seemed to be Maham who suddenly launched into a very emotional and high-pitched pro-Jalal performance, explaining how despite her being a woman, she was qualified by her status in the Sultanate to comment ... and how Jalal was the representative of God to his people, not just another man ... and why Jalal cannot be prevented entry into the Sultanate that he was Shahenshah of, and nor could he be dethroned at whim. She made no excuses for the temple trip, but she focused on the powers vested in Jalal, both political and moral, and hinted at him being above the "punishment ambit" of the clerics.

Then Jalal himself tried his pitch. He said : "I was born in a Hindu home, and you clerics also presided over my first birthday where you had to solemnize your rituals in a Hindu mandir. Have you all forgotten this?" The clerics looked uncomfortable for a minute or two, but then they stayed unmoved in their stance that a gunah had been committed, the people were with them, and since Jodha was the culprit behind the temple visit, she would have to set right this issue by accepting a conversion to Islam. Or rather, Jalal would have to make her convert!

Maham bought a day's time for consideration and Jalal said his faisla would be made and delivered at the Diwaan-E-Khaas the next day. And thus they entered the palace finally.

Now what will Jalal do? My own theory is that he will definitely support Jodha's right to continue in her religion, and he will cock a snook at the clerics (as Hrithik Roshan did in the movie version). He may also be innovative in his solution as he was with the Ratanpur Fort saga. There's also the possibility that Jodha herself may try to execute her own plan in response to the Maham shouting in the precap. Spoilers say eventually Jodha gets ready to convert, but Baba Salim Chisti intervenes to allow her to practice Hinduism.

But I feel during this resolution process Jalal may use a piece of dialogue here that makes double-meaning to Jodha. He may say to the clerics and praja: "I will not break my promises to Jodha, I never ever did so far, and I never ever will do that. The word of a Shahenshah is as important as any thing else he does. Jodha has my word, my support, and my solemn re-assurance that she is free to pursue her religion and her desired way of life". Such a sentence, if Jajal utters it, may tell Jodha also about his "having honoured his promises even on that night before" and further clarification from Moti may also reassure Jodha that she was not taken advantage of. Hence the dialogue at the Diwan-E-Khaas is something I will watch very closely to see how many issues it can bring closure to!

The whitening of Maham - and the blackening of Adham

Okay, this is the strand of the story that is extremely interesting to me ... because I feel that the stage is now being set for the big Adham-Jalal "open war" and the subsequent death of Adham (or if Ekta wishes to prolong his life, she may opt for his banishment). Here's why I think so ...

All through the Amer trip, we saw Sharifuddin as a man willing to wait for the right time and place to dethrone Jalal, whereas Adham, from even before Amer, was fuming and frothing at the mouth in unbridled impatience to finish off Jalal. With every passing poor plan of his failing to make any dent in the life of Jalal at Amer, Adham was shown as getting moore and more desperate and cursing the need for prudence and patience. When he finally set up the maulvis to protest Jalal's visit to the mandir, to try and dethrone Jalal via the "religious gunah" route, however, his own mother started getting painted whiter (getting redeemed by the Creatives, as it were) by the speech she gave at the palace gates in favour of Jalal.

At first I was looking around to see if Maham was being so pro-Jalal to create an effect for public consumption and to impress Jalal with her loyalty. But later when Adham and Maham were alone in the room, and Adham accused Maham of ruining his ascent to the throne by her pro-Jalal speech, Maham continued even in private to uphold Jalal and decry Adham as unfit to for the throne. It seemed clear to me then that the Creatives were indeed trying to whiten Maham's character a bit (or maybe bring out the parts of her that were already good).

She especially denounced Adham's methods of dethroning Jalal, and said while he was her son, he shouldn't forget what Jalal also was to her! And in some very ruthless words she made Adham feel smaller than he was ready to feel, for having made this ill-advised "religion-related" attempt at usurping the throne. Adham was then so furious that he raised a hand against his mother. She was temporarily shocked but then recovered to deliver some more dire dialogues at his departing back!

I think three things are possibly being done by the Creatives here:

1. An increasing blackening of Adham with his desperation increased and excerbated by the increasing whitening of Maham

2. A possible stage being set for Adham to get even more crazy after the perceived betrayal and fallout with his mother, his trusted ally so far

3. Adham may now be shown as in a lather to take some very drastic steps that could lead to his maybe murdering key people opposing him (as in the movie) and leading to Jalal finishing him off (maybe forever as in the movie, or maybe as banishment, for longevity in this serial).

In contrast, the whitening of Maham may create conditions whereby Jalal could exonerate her - or at least give her the benefit of doubt - even as Adham is being neutralised. (Maybe later Maham will get even more vicious after her son is thus "dealt with", which she was unable to prevent. But that's for the future story.)

Next week I expect the story to move on all these three fronts, and if the Creatives are clever they may even intermingle the strands to make events of the one strand impact events of the other two. But let's wait and see.

What is clear is that the holiday at Amer is over and the hotbed of Agra has been entered into. Now the love story of Jalal-Jodha will have to be evolved in the context of the Agra politics, religion, rivalries and jealousies. And we haven't even see the Amer effect on Ruqaiaya yet!

well done , Mansi. Fab analysis.

I m repeating something i have written in Vicky's thread. this is fully my theory.

i know it's two early, but it seems the CVs r setting stone for Jalal to form the new religion Din-E- Illahi. (sorry if the spelling is wrong). from what i have read, once he got married to Hindu Begum (we know her as Jodha) and getting to know The Hinduism better, he was acting on his wishes, like if felt the thing is good from Islamic POV he used to act likewise, and if he thought Hinduism is right on any matter , he used to do it that way, ignoring those who try to stop him.

I know he formed the new religion after he became Akbar The Great. but they might show this incident as start for the change in his thinking, and start for his being Shehenshah E Hidusthan in a very true manner, rather than just being a Mughal Emperor. if my thinking is right, this will go on for months together. this point will come in the soap, atleast twice a month in future. (this is all my thinking. i don't know what CVs r thinking, nor i know the exact and very true history. so i m sorry if i m hurting anybody.)

rest, i still don't know exactly why they showed the whole AkDha night scene. it's not leading anywhere right now. but then, ur points marked in red by me, seems a good possibility where he can win her trust forever. I just have a thought that it will give her a new opportunity to see him in totally different light. only one thinking abt it, Jodha to finally accept Jalal as her fate and her complete surrender to him , might be shown in few episodes.i mean , she has seen what Jalal can do to save her Amer ki Izzat, so she will try to reciprocate by accepting the condition to convert to Islam, and Jalal stopping her and Jodha moving on with their new found respect for each-other.


this is what i felt after yest's episode.