Ekta, name/title issue and other points

skanda12 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 12 years ago
#1
Friends, I get the feeling after watching yesterday's episode that these three things are important:
a. The name change issue and the title are linked:
I get the feeling that this title of Marium Uz Zamani is a clever idea of Ekta's to effect the "name change" for the serial and the character Jodha.
Historically also it was true that Jodha was called Marium Uz Zamani after she entered the Mughal Court. The twist in Ekta's tale seems to be that Ruqaiaya covets the title as it is supposed to be the most powerful title for any woman in the sultanate, even higher than the position occupied by Maham.
Ekta seems to have connected the title to the woman who is able to produce a waaris (which I suspect is Ekta's own twist) and eventually Ruqaiya after the miscarriage may not get the title and Jodha may.
By doing this Ekta would kill two birds with one stone. She would reduce the prominence of Ruqaiaya and elevate Jodha in the story and in Jalal's favours, and she would also pacify the protesting Rajputs by replacing the name Jodha with Marium. It would be historically correct as well as OK I suppose for the protesting Rajputs?
b. The Ruqaiaya-Maham combination may spell the end of Ruq's closeness with Jalal:
We saw that Ruq was clear on her priorities - she wants to be Marium Uz Zamani more than she even wants to be a mother. She said "Anyone can be a mother, but what about that fabulous title?". Now that is exactly what Maham does not want. Maham says "Any other begum wanting that title is OK, but in Ruqaiya's hands it spells doom for Adam because I have now only managed to tie Ruqaiya down from spilling the beans on the matter, I have not been able to stop her ability to spill the beans!"
Remember also how Maham told Jodha after Moti's release that when she spots an enemy she does not allow that enemy to repeatedly threaten her ... and she eliminates the enemy before it becomes a recurring threat!
Now it is my prediction here that Maham will engineer a miscarriage for Ruqaiya, because Adam is indeed in very grave danger of exposure, and a strong titled Ruqaiaya will be his death. But Maham being Maham, she will probably "engineer" the miscarriage in such a way that it looks like Ruqaiya has been careless. She may instigate Ruq to do something utterly foolish to get one over Jodha, and in the process Ruq may miscarry. I also feel Maham will have ensured that not only does Ruq miscarry but she will have done permanent damage to her ability to bear a child - thus Maham can eliminate that threat from Ruqaiaya for ever!
There are bound to be implications to the story as a result of this. For one, Jalal when he hears of Ruqaiya's negligence may be furious with her for misplacing her priorities and denying him that child he so wanted - especially for creating a situation of inability to bear a child ever ! There may be a physical and emotional split between Ruqaiaya and Jalal hereafter (good for Jodha!). On the other hand, Maham may also fan the distrust that Ruqaiya has towards Jodha (as seen in yesterday;'s precap) and thus Ruq may suspect Jodha's hand in the miscarriage (as she may think Jodha wants the waaris and the title).
Net, net, I think it is curtains for the Ruq-Jalal closeness era and the stage is set for the Jalal-Jodha closeness era. I think the devastated Jalal is going to be consoled by Jodha, who lends a shoulder for him to cry on. Maham as usual may go scot-free having been clever enough to get things done by remote control!
c. Did you all notice that jalal looked relieved when Jodha refused to lie to his mother about her pregnancy? He looked a mite frustrated but also relieved as he said "I knew you wouldn't agree!". Thank God she refused, and thank God he took it in the right spirit! He was just testing her I guess?
These are just my views. Welcome the views of others!
Edited by skanda12 - 12 years ago

Created

Last reply

Replies

32

Views

3.4k

Users

15

Likes

111

Frequent Posters

peachesandcream thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 30 Thumbnail Navigator Thumbnail
Posted: 12 years ago
#2
These are good ideas.
The Jalaal Ruq equation has to end in order for the love story to progress. Especially with the pregnancy issue. How many viewers will be comfortable watching Jalaal romancing Jodha while another wife is pregnant?
It would make sense the name change but not sure how it would happen. It would certainly cause more antagonism by Ruk..
The scenario you describe is in line with what the characters might do and is logical. Maham engineering a miscarriage while Ruk is trying to compete with Jodha would make Jalaal furious with her and at the same time highlight the difference between Ruk and Jodha as well. Her actions if shown to be foolish would make them unforgivable.
Edited by peachesandcream - 12 years ago
swtngl thumbnail
Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 12 years ago
#3
You are right about Ruq miscarriage and Maham will play a hand in engineering it. I am waiting to see how she will do it. I feel bad for Ruq because after such a long time she is pregnant and she will lose the child.
About Jalal and Jodha scene when Jodha refuses to pretend pregnant. I didn't think he looked relieved, it was more like he was portraying " all talk, no action" message.
skanda12 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 12 years ago
#4

Originally posted by: swtngl

You are right about Ruq miscarriage and Maham will play a hand in engineering it. I am waiting to see how she will do it. I feel bad for Ruq because after such a long time she is pregnant and she will lose the child.

About Jalal and Jodha scene when Jodha refuses to pretend pregnant. I didn't think he looked relieved, it was more like he was portraying " all talk, no action" message.

Somewhere, don't you think, if Jodha has agreed to the lie it would have reflected badly on both her and Jalal! It looked to me like Jalal was relieved to be spared the implications of the lie, even if he was a trifle miffed with her immediate refusal!
Even later he tells Ruqaiya, "I thought I would have to make Jodha lie to Ammijaan, but now that's not necessary it seems as you are ready ... (and anyway the waaris was on the way)."
That sort of signalled to me that he too was not 100% behind the lie idea even if he had thought of it as a way to handle Ammijaan!
skanda12 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 12 years ago
#5

Originally posted by: peachesandcream

These are good ideas.

The Jalaal Ruq equation has to end in order for the love story to progress. Especially with the pregnancy issue. How many viewers will be comfortable watching Jalaal romancing Jodha while another wife is pregnant?
It would make sense the name change but not sure how it would happen. It would certainly cause more antagonism by Ruk..
The scenario you describe is in line with what the characters might do and is logical. Maham engineering a miscarriage while Ruk is trying to compete with Jodha would make Jalaal furious with her and at the same time highlight the difference between Ruk and Jodha as well. Her actions if shown to be foolish would make them unforgivable.

I have a feeling that Maham may tell Ruq "If you want to be Marium Uz Zamani, you have to be able to be a good sipahi like Jodha (or some such thing) and this Ruq may rush off to demonstrate talwarbaazi or some such strenuous or dangerous action. Just a guess!
pooja-menon thumbnail
20th Anniversary Thumbnail Trailblazer Thumbnail + 7
Posted: 12 years ago
#6

Originally posted by: skanda12

I have a feeling that Maham may tell Ruq "If you want to be Marium Uz Zamani, you have to be able to be a good sipahi like Jodha (or some such thing) and this Ruq may rush off to demonstrate talwarbaazi or some such strenuous or dangerous action. Just a guess!


But what is the connection??.. marium-uz-zamani and being a good warrior?? 😕😆

I thought Marium-uz-Zamani was the name.. but they made it into a title here.. But if they are intending to call her marium .. there is still time for that right.. Jodha won't be pregnant for sometime.. 😕
skanda12 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 12 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: ...Poojie...


But what is the connection??.. marium-uz-zamani and being a good warrior?? 😕😆

I thought Marium-uz-Zamani was the name.. but they made it into a title here.. But if they are intending to call her marium .. there is still time for that right.. Jodha won't be pregnant for sometime.. 😕

God knows what maham may tell Ruq to instigate her to do something foolish and lose the baby? I was just guessing if she would instigate her to some foolish and strenuous action, especially since we know that Ruq feels less than Jodha on the talwarbaazi front!
Regarding the name change and title, one way to look at it is whether Jodha would get that title only much later after she pproduces a waaris. Anoother way to look at it is whether Ekta is using this title as a way to change Jodha's name after the Rajput protests. If that is her intention it can be done in any number of ways (for example, one of the ways could be that jalal is so ppissed with Ruq's negligence and miscarriage that he decided then and there to give the title to someone more deserving i.e. Jodha). It's Ekta's wish how fast or slow she wants the name change. I am only hazarding a guess that the title may be a clever ploy by Ekta to overcome this name change protest ...
Edited by skanda12 - 12 years ago
Tohru thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 12 years ago
#8
thanks very nice view 👍🏼
but i will luv if they contineou jodha jalal names 😳
skanda12 thumbnail
18th Anniversary Thumbnail Sparkler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 12 years ago
#9

Originally posted by: Tohru

thanks very nice view 👍🏼
but i will luv if they contineou jodha jalal names 😳

Yes, me too! I can't think of them both as anything but Jodha and Jalal! I also look forward to the day when Jodha will stop calling him Shahenshah and start calling him "Jalal". The way he says her name "Jodha" is already wonderful-sounding!Embarrassed
barunsanaya1985 thumbnail
Explorer Thumbnail
Posted: 12 years ago
#10
😛Hello Guys
😲Main bohat worried hoon yeh sooch kar ki agar kisi saazish ke chalte i mean Maha Manga ne kuch kiya taki Ruqaiya ka miscarriage ho jaye or sara blame Jodha par de diya toh as both Ruqaiya & Jodha r her big enemy & by doing this woh Ek Tir Se Do Nishane Laga Legi ,tab kya hoga .

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".