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Posted: 17 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: msuns

now u take the total marks of a champion as 100 marks...then 50% marks will be counted as judge's marks...and the rest 50% will be added by the votes...



And exactly HOW are the audience votes scaled or converted to 50% of the marks?? No one has been able to answer this question yet. Because no one knows. Because the mathematics of the procedure have not been published. Because the producers WANT to keep it a "secret".

Figuring out why the producers would want to do that isn't rocket science.

This show is a joke.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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can any one post for me RAHUL'S pics especialy on 23rd/may episode ... can't find much of them ???

plzzzzzzzzz 😭
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Posted: 17 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: arayq2



And exactly HOW are the audience votes scaled or converted to 50% of the marks?? No one has been able to answer this question yet. Because no one knows. Because the mathematics of the procedure have not been published. Because the producers WANT to keep it a "secret".

Figuring out why the producers would want to do that isn't rocket science.

This show is a joke.



The calculation is not that hard…suppose the contestant who got the highest vote got 24000 votes, then suppose that he got it out of 25000 (the next round figure)…so if you convert it on percentage…then you have to think that 25000 is 100% marks…so when he got 24000, which is 96% out of 100%, so he gets 48% out of 50% ….

Now if he got 64 out of 70 from judges (30+40=70), then out of 100% he got 91.43% marks…so out of 50% he got 45.71% from judges…

So his total marks out of 100 will be 48+45.71 = 93.71…this way all other contestants marks can be counted…just u need to fix the standard mark in base of highest marks first .so in this case other contestants votes will also be counted out of 25000 vote….

The only problem is we'll never know if they count the votes honestly or not….but it was same in all other reality shows…so we have no choice to trust them on it…and all the results that came out in various reality shows was not so unexpected…that's why we'll like to believe that they don't play with that…but mathematically it has no flaps….the mathematical procedure os published in their website (terms and condition parts)...but surely not in this much detail...


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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: msuns


The calculation is not that hard…suppose the contestant who got the highest vote got 24000 votes, then suppose that he got it out of 25000 (the next round figure)…so if you convert it on percentage…then you have to think that 25000 is 100% marks…so when he got 24000, which is 96% out of 100%, so he gets 48% out of 50% ….



This, of course, is completely arbitrary. Why is the rounding in this case to 25000 and not, say, 30000?

Originally posted by: msuns

the mathematical procedure os published in their website (terms and condition parts)...but surely not in this much detail...

Where on their website is this detail (such as the exact rounding procedure)? You mean, the details are NOT published? Then, where did you get them?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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No matter which standard you take...the ratio will be same...you can take 30000, then the percentage ratio will be decrease...and it'll decrease for the rest of the contestants in the same way...so no matter what standard number you take, it can x, y or z...i said it had to be more than the highest vote...that's it...the result will be same...i mean the place of the singers...who will be in the top or, in 2nd top or in bottom 3, the ratio will be same...it's simple mathematics...so no chance of anything be go wrong in calculation...

They published it in the website. just go to this link
http://www.starboxoffice.com/contest/jjws/vote.asp
then click on "I agree with the terms blah blah blah...", then you can read the procedure...a very long one!
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Posted: 17 years ago
#86
who is the director of this show?? is it gujender singh, who did the voi?
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: msuns

No matter which standard you take...the ratio will be same...you can take 30000, then the percentage ratio will be decrease...and it'll decrease for the rest of the contestants in the same way...



I'm sorry, but the critical factor is not the ratio between two contestants' scores which, as you say, will remain the same as the denominator for percentage calculations varies. It is the difference between them, which will vary inversely with the magnitude of the denominator on which the "percentage" is calculated (i.e. larger denominator, smaller percentage **differential**).

I would suggest working **fully** through various numeric examples.

Originally posted by: msuns

They published it in the website. just go to this link
http://www.starboxoffice.com/contest/jjws/vote.asp
then click on "I agree with the terms blah blah blah...", then you can read the procedure...a very long one!



Long, yes. Informative no. The linked page has two "tabs", one for "General rules" (with 63 + 29 articles) and one for "Voting Rules" (with 15 + 11 articles). "25%" and "50%" are cited in various places, but IN NO PLACE is the exact nature of the calculation specified. IN NO PLACE is it explained EXACTLY HOW judges scores and audience voting ARE IN FACT MADE COMMENSURABLE on a 50/50 basis.

I'm simply amazed at the extent to which people are prepared to believe that "rules" exist when IN FACT THEY DO NOT.

It is all arbitrary. And may that give you great joy.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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ok assuming their system is genuine, this is how it would be. 50% is scores out of 70. let's say someone got 65 points. then 50% is votes. take the amount of votes a contestant got out of total votes given to all contestants. let's say that contestant got 200000 out of a total of 1000000 given votes. they would convert that to 14 out of 70. 65/70 + 14/70 = 79/70. they would rank contestants from top to bottom by their total score out of 70.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Hi,

can anyone tell JJWS's contact like mail id or something
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Posted: 17 years ago
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hi all 😊

i have a request !!
can any one put all of RAHUL's performances on jo jeeta wohi superstar here ... clear MP3 FILES ...
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